...What about the flag makes him lawful? It makes him Patriotic. Which isn't the same thing. Consider that Robin Hood, over on Chaotic Good, is Patriotic too.
edited 19th Jun '12 11:44:04 AM by Ghilz
The American flag is supposed to be a symbol of truth and justice. (YMMV on whether that is true, but it's the message there.)
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.I suppose you could use Joe Friday if you prefer — there's not much dispute that a police sergeant would represent "law".
We could go for something that's a bit more universal than a US flag.
Right but like The Galactic Empire is Lawful Evil, law/chaos is about following rules, not whether the rules are things you agree with. Flag!Superman◊ says Lawful Good pretty well, better than Just!Superman. It is easily the best so far.
edited 19th Jun '12 2:25:30 PM by rodneyAnonymous
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.Alright, the pic's up, potholed, and tagged. Caption or no?
Previous caption ("Halt, evildoer.") still good?
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.It doesn't feel right for that particular picture, honestly.
I don't see a problem with leaving it captionless — unless someone proposes one that improves the picture, I think it's fine.
Since Supes is not a D&D character, how exactly do we know he's lawful good? Did one of the authors say so?
Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!You must be joking.
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.Regardless of whether he is or isn't, it's pretty evident that the page is showing very much lawful and good (the flag demonstrates some deference to authority, while his posture, and the fact that it's Superman - who does indeed get some immunity to JAFAAC - helps to convey the good part).
Anyway, something like "Fighting the Scum of the Universe for Truth and Justice" would work. Captionless is also fine.
He's the first entry in the Comic Books folder.
- Superman is, in fact, canonically Good in the DCU, and Lawful Good in D&D crossover works. He explicitly chose to use his powers for good.
- (He was more like Chaotic Good on introduction, but he has since trended sharply toward Lawful, and hardly anyone knows that anyway.)
- It is strongly implied by several authors that he is who he is because of his foster parents, and might have become a supervillain instead.
- The trope is not only about the D&D alignment. The only explanation I can imagine for this objection is not being aware of The Great Character Alignment Debate, which is excusable, and not having read (or even skimmed...) the article, which is not.
- Superman is, like, emblematic of a major flavor of that alignment/archetype.
- He is also emblematic of The Cape, which is closely related.
- If only one character was worthy of being the face of a trope, and only one page image was worthy of being just a face, it would be him and this. Superman has more character than Jesus. The essence and meaning of Lawful Good is somewhat-communicated to someone completely unfamiliar with Superman, and well-communicated to someone who is even a little bit familiar with Superman (i.e. everyone who can use a computer).
edited 26th Jun '12 9:02:07 PM by rodneyAnonymous
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.Alright, with no consensus on a caption, let's just lock up and move on.
Another vote fot 15.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.