My idea: Screw the rules, I have a superweapon (or ...I can destroy you, or ...you can't fight me)
How about "Screw the Rules, I Can Kick Your Ass?"
Screw The Rules I Have Atomic Supermen
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Agreed, the trope name makes it feels like the trope should be about having a super weapon (IE the Death Star or a really big bomb) so you can do what ever you want instead of being stronger then everyone else and enforcing your will through violence. My suggestion is "Screw the Rules, I have Power" then dividing the examples into two categories. Category one would involve super weapons (such as the Death Star or really big bombs) then category two would involve more conventional means (such as Rome and it's armies).
Crowner hooked.
"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
There's little reason to keep the snowclone if we want to rename this.
Voting against the rename just because there aren't any good suggestions yet. If the best we can do is yet another snowclone, than it isn't worth it.
Rules Overriding Power? Or something similar?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Might Makes Right? Right in the Laconic.
- Oops: It's an index for this trope, but this trope isn't indexed to it?
edited 8th Jun '12 4:08:26 PM by spacemarine50
Ravenous Sophovore
Bumping for votes.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
World's Toughest Milkman
'...this is known as the "Argumentum ad Baculum" or the Appeal to Force , whose logic goes essentially thus: "I'm right, and if you disagree, I beat you up."...'
If this is supposed to be about the logical fallacy, which is what the description is suggesting here, we might want to simply call it Appeal to Force. Or at least use that as a starting place for brainstorming.
(If it's not supposed to be about the logical fallacy, we might want to edit the description just a tad.)
eta: Hmm, Appeal to Force is a blue-link...not quite sure what that is at the other end of the link, though. May need further investigation.
edited 23rd Jul '12 1:53:04 PM by Xtifr
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Ravenous Sophovore
Calling crowner in favor of renaming.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
World's Toughest Milkman
Should we maybe just merge it into the existing Appeal to Force page? I'm having a hard time seeing the difference, and I'm pretty sure that technically counts as a rename (since we only had a single-prop crowner).
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Appeal to Force isn't in a good state right now. Might need a thread here. Hold off on that idea.
edited 27th Jul '12 11:16:29 PM by spacemarine50
Ravenous Sophovore
Are we going to do anything here, or does this need to be shelved?
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
World's Toughest Milkman
I think the name is very misleading, and the underuse argument is strong. This is a very common trope. We could have a rename crowner while we decide what happens with the Appeal to Force page.
(I'm starting to think that it might be too confusing to have a Useful Notes page and an actual trope share the same name, but we can deal with that once we decide for sure whether this should be renamed.)
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Appeal to Force reads like Useful Notes so maybe it should be Analysis.
Anyway, 'I have a nuke' makes this trope sound more specific than it is. Unless it actually IS about nukes it should be renamed to something more inclusive. Personally I like Screw The Rules I Have A Bigger Stick because it relates to the Bigger Stick trope but that makes it a double snowclone
edited 22nd Sep '12 10:04:13 AM by ChaoticNovelist
World's Toughest Milkman
Not only a double-snowclone, but far too long.
I don't know. It might be best to have all our Useful Notes pages on logical fallacies be consistent. Maybe the path of least resistance is calling this something else. Maybe something like Might Wins Arguments?
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More concise, but it sounds similar to Might Makes Right.
Wouldn't this work more as in index since we have tropes for specific ways of getting things with force? Ballistic Discount for example.
The Final ECW Champion
Fifty seven wicks is hardly a cause for alarm considering the minimum is fourteen. If you think there should be more examples take it to Special Efforts or Trope Talk. This page does not need repairing.
Modified Ura-nage, Torture Rack
Crown Description:
Vote up for yes, down for no.
Despite the title, this trope more or less about abusing violent force to get what you want. This seems like a pretty widespread trope, but it's only linked to in 57 articles and has only 38 inbounds.
Might I suggest a rename to Screw The Rules I Have Power, or something akin to it? Something tells me the title referring to something specific might have something to do with its problem.