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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 10th 2022 at 11:50:32 AM
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Hm... perhaps this would be a good time to remind you guys to chill out a little? I mean, really, playing the Blame Game isn't really gonna solve anything...
Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
You gotta get yourself some marble columns
If you think obsessively listing bad things in fiction is a problem, um...
The child is father to the man —Oedipus
nvm.
edited 6th Jun '12 5:04:42 PM by TheFoxsCloak
Apparition in the Woods
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Well, there is a difference here, in that people are less likely to sexualise violence that is inherently non-sexual than they are to sexualise sexual violence. (Yes, that sounds redundant, but I think that you get the point.)
Also, the "words on a page" argument flew out the window ages ago.
edited 6th Jun '12 5:12:01 PM by JHM
I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.
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I'm not the only one who didn't get that, right?
Apparition in the Woods
I mean that people are more likely to fetishise rape imagery than non-sexual violent imagery and subsequently get horribly skeevy over it.
Something strange...
- Mazz: I really feel more the opposite - that trying to avoid something trivializes it.
Leaving aside that none of these pages are even close to having all the possible examples... would you find it not creepy if there were fewer examples, or only one? Because I think when people add examples, that's more the mindset they're likely to be approaching it from.
"Exactly my point. We do have these people in the wiki."
Um... this strikes me as a pretty serious accusation here.
"So... the time has come for you to meet your demise..."
@Mazz: The mission of this site is to obsessively list and catalog examples of every recurring pattern in fiction. Yes, that includes various patterns of rape and how they affect a story. For example, women (or men) falling in love with their rapists is a recurring pattern in fictional works; it usually says something about the story's idea of romance. (And no, we should not pretend that such works do not exist.)
Regardless, as Eddie said, this is currently, primarily, a Google issue, whatever you'd like it to be about.
Anyway I agree with Komodin; while I believe that Eddie could have handled the announcement better (if this is because of a Google attack, it might have been better to announce it with "we have a Google Incident in the making; I have to take Rape Tropes offline, please be patient and watch this space"), we should probably cool off just a bit now that the facts are in the clear. I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
Well that's that.
Google has killed the site. (I swear they're a worse Evil Empire then Microsoft ever was).
We cut Rape Of The Lock? Really?
I'll probably hang out on the forums until they die, but giving more time to editing the wiki?
I think not.
It'd be nice to get rid of these Maroon 5 10th Anniversary release ads, at least. There's a bright side to everything?
The Demon Slayer
Sackett, I'm pretty sure that this wiki is not going to die, just like we didn't die when The Second Google Incident went down. We don't yet know what the hell's going on other than that it's a Google thing. I am taking the tack of waiting things out and being patient.
edited 6th Jun '12 5:38:52 PM by TwoGunAngel
No longer a forum herald
<waves goodbye to Sackett>
At any rate, Eddie has already said he plans to move further away from Google. All we can do is hope his "fast" nature kicks into overdrive.
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
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Yeah, let's not do that. Overreacting isn't gonna solve anything. Relax...
edited 6th Jun '12 5:39:27 PM by Komodin
Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
What was Rape Of The Lock about? 
And yeah, this has kinda bummed me from editing I think. What's the point if it'll just be deleted or removed? 
I sure hope this whole overbearing Google thing is fixed up fast though. 
I will try to chill.
edited 6th Jun '12 5:41:27 PM by Bookyangel2438
Alt account of Angeldog 2437.
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Why do people keep saying that?
Weren't you going to stay away from this thread 'til it cooled down?
The Demon Slayer
@Booky: It's a satire about a lady having a lock of hair cut without her permission, treated with all the pomp and circumstance of an epic poem.
edited 6th Jun '12 5:40:28 PM by TwoGunAngel
@Mazz: Well, the current state of affairs is that the tropes have been unpersoned.
I think that examples are pretty necessary to properly document tropes, especially in the style that is currently used for articles in general. Saying that examples aren't mission-core would be a radical departure from existing practice and require rebuilding the wiki from the ground up.
I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
Until further notice
Well, it involves a really bad Cargo Ship gone wrong...
Okay, just kidding. It's a satirical epic poem by Alexander Pope centring around a Traumatic Haircut.
edited 6th Jun '12 5:41:02 PM by Pyrite
Not a substitute for a formal medical consultation.
andWoah.
That sounds interesting.
edited 6th Jun '12 5:41:07 PM by Bookyangel2438
Alt account of Angeldog 2437.
Something strange...
@Mazz: Because I think the lists are a lot more important and useful, apparently. A wide selection of examples makes it easier to understand something and recognize when it is in action. Or at least, it does so for me. And making things harder to understand and use looks a lot like trying to make them disappear.
Isn't analysis what the analysis tab is there for?
"So... the time has come for you to meet your demise..."
The Rape of the Lock wasn't intentionally cut, it automatically had a curtain placed over it. This has been said multiple times already. Even this non-existant page has it, you'll see if you click: Aghwieohs Rape Fgesshh.
Any article title with "Rape" in it.
I'm not crazy, I just don't give a darn!
An "anti-rape" tone is no more necessary than an "anti-murder tone" on Pretty Little Headshots or Murder the Hypotenuse.
It isn't necessary for us to add a Don't Try This at Home disclaimer to every single trope that deals with things in fictional stories that we'd prefer people not do in Real Life. We are about story telling, not sermonizing. If someone needs us to tell them not to rape people, they have deeper problems than any disclaimer we put in our works can address.