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By the way: What about the PM mailbox? Would limiting the space you have available there count as "cutting features"?

Programming and surgery have a lot of things in common: Don't start removing colons until you know what you're doing.

Herald and Engineer badges are on the left. Supposedly, any other badge would be on the right to avoid confusion.

ccoa is so going to kill me for that redirect. >.>

edited 9th Apr '12 8:54:11 AM by lu127

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer

Of cource

Anyway, unless anyone has a new idea or wants to talk about the lesser-discussed options, I think it is time we sit back and wait to see what the mods/Fast Eddie decide to do. All that is left for the avatar and badge ideas is the go/no go and the details (which is what Eddie is probably working on right now).

EDIT: Added this to my list;

• How to pay for these items

Note that none of the details are finalized.

edited 9th Apr '12 9:26:02 AM by Belian

Yu hav nat sein bod speeling unntil know. (cacke four undersandig tis)the cake is a lie!

"By the way: What about the PM mailbox? Would limiting the space you have available there count as "cutting features"? "

I think they are already self deleting. I do not have any PMs past 16th Mar '11 (though maybe it's not by date but by number of them...), the last three are a cut-off end of a conversation.

Edit: PMed myself for a test, one more old message disappeared. Looks like it is by number of letters in the box.

edited 9th Apr '12 9:29:07 AM by Adannor

Paying for more space is always an option.

P Ms aren't auto deleted. There's just a limit on how many will display. Adannor: If you delete two, you'll see the one that just disappeared reappear, along with one more.

edited 9th Apr '12 9:42:19 AM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

We should have no problem taking bitcoins.

I didn't like the idea of selling pins for avatars. We'll just make that one of the Premium Features listed earlier which is enabled with a one time donation of $20.

The two summaries didn't mention additional emoticons. I'd say that would be a one time payment as well for an extended bundle of emoticons. Sorry, there will still be no animated emoticons.

I could live with a 24x24 badge size.

edited 9th Apr '12 11:56:14 AM by FastEddie

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty

I don't like the idea of badges that solely and explicitly identify people as donors because again, it might encourage they or others to treat it as "this person's opinions are more important" which could go badly in, say, TRS.

The child is father to the man —Oedipus

Well, they are more committed to the wiki.

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty

^^^^Ooh. Well, ability to browse a second and further page of PMs could be a feature somewhere too, then.
No pay: sort through and delete some unnecessary stuff if you want to dig up older something.
Pay: easily accessible.

edited 9th Apr '12 11:58:27 AM by Adannor

^^^ You know, I'm starting to wonder if that isn't just pessimistic speculation. At worst, maybe a newcomer might have that preconception, but I imagine the regulars can tell the difference between someone who actually knows what they're talking about and just some clueless guy with a shiny.

edited 9th Apr '12 11:59:53 AM by KylerThatch

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...

If a big donor likes a broken name, that doesn't make it any less broken. If a big donor likes a captioned face, that doesn't make it any more illustrative. I don't think it would be good for people in TRS or IP or Wiki Talk to say "well, I gave $X, so we should do it my way" when their way is actually bad.

The child is father to the man —Oedipus

Disable them in workshop areas, then?

Special award badges should show, though.

If all that's not too hard to code

edited 9th Apr '12 12:01:31 PM by Adannor

Why would people think that? A shiny badge means you gave enough money, not that you suddenly have a better opinion.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer

^Some people think that the mere fact that in same three month they and another guy spend on a forum, they managed to get thrice more post count, makes them better.

We are still on the internet, that sort of people may still exist in here too. Hidden, for the time being.

Because capitalism. Because I (hypothetically) paid for it, I own it.

Turns out not everyone in the world is as nice, as sensible, as humble as Lu127 (or Hershele Ostropoler), is the issue.

edited 9th Apr '12 12:04:04 PM by HersheleOstropoler

The child is father to the man —Oedipus

See Fan Dumb - King Customer.

edited 9th Apr '12 12:04:02 PM by setnakhte

"Roll for whores."

Funny thing about being humble, if you have to say that you are, you aren't really.

Joking aside, I like to think the kind of people that would go out of their way to repair tropes would be a little smarter than that.

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...

Well, hiding them in workshops is fine with me. They are unnecessary after all. Anywhere else, I can't see them cause much damage.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer

Regardless of whether the donor is a productive TRS or IP worker, they're still giving real money to this wiki. I don't see how giving donors recognition could possibly be a bad thing. I also don't think anyone's going to mistake a "I support this madhouse financially" badge as "this guy is more important than everyone else because he has disposable income and a generous nature."

"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.

@Eddie: I used "smilies" not emoticons. Changed because that is a better word

Putting a limit on avatars/charging for extra slots, badges, "pinning" avatars, additional text options, and "other/less discussed items" are the ideas we have seriously discussed from the time when I started following the thread. These topics have come down to:

• Avatars
  • Number of free/number you can buy
    • Most think one page (40 avatars) is plenty for free
    • Pruchasing 1 additional page at a time
    • Pruchasing unlimited avatars
  • $ per purchase
    • $5 per page
    • $?? for unlimited ($30 had no real objections)
  • How often you are charged for the extra avatars
    • Current ad removal is 4 months, so...
• Badges
  • Mod-given
    • (needs list of reasons)
  • Purchased for own use
    • Hey! I hang out in _____ forum!
    • Seasonal
    • Other (interest and personaity related come to mind)
  • Purchased to give to someone else
    • I really like the service to the forum you have provided. Here is a badge/cookie to show my appreciation.
    • Linked to the giver (so everyone know who gave the person a badge) or just totaled?
  • Prices
    • one time purchase
    • $10 for 5
  • Special badges for general donations of $X amount
  • Badge galery
  • Can only display 2
• Pinning avatars
  • Eddie has spoken
• Additional text options
  • Access to the full hexadesimal collor options
  • Additional text formats/fonts
  • No prices discussed
• Other
  • More/Custom emoticons
  • Colored usernames
  • Different backgrounds
  • Other reasons for people to earn free badges.
  • How to pay for these items

Note that none of the details are finalized.

Also, no curent functionality/options will be removed if at all possible (with the exemption of unlimited avatars).

---

Fast Eddie's thoughts/what he is looking at (as far as the people without acess to the super-secret-mod-foum^tm know)

• Have a one-time, $20 fee for pinning avatars.
• The $5 per-page of avatars
• Badges that can be bought to be given to other tropers

edited 9th Apr '12 12:38:11 PM by Belian

Yu hav nat sein bod speeling unntil know. (cacke four undersandig tis)the cake is a lie!

^^The buyers themselves may see them that way. They may even buy the badge just for that.

edited 9th Apr '12 12:27:57 PM by Adannor

If anyone tries lording it over others because they have a badge, the mods can thwap him with the humility stick.

I'd say give it a chance before borrowing trouble.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.

You know, if someone starts to lord a bought badge over someone else, it's always possible to temporarily strip that user of the right to display their badge - kind of like an Edit Ban, but less extensive. The badges are a privelige, not a right to be an asshole.

Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.

and Exactly. Either way, it's a great way to earn revenue.

Nobody is going to take someone seriously if they say, "Oh, I spent five bucks on this badge, you best agree with m'Insane Troll Logic about why this trope needs to be blah blah blah stupidity."

edited 9th Apr '12 12:31:46 PM by Martello

"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.