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Inspired by this thread, I've noticed that this wiki doesn't have a dedicated cleanup thread for negativity.

As we all know, Complaining About Shows You Don't Like, Creator Bashing and other negativity isn't desired on the wiki, except in a few selected areas like reviews and several Darth Wiki pages (and even then, with limitations). And yet, it's one of the most common sins wiki contributors can make.

So, if you find a page, TLP or discussion whose content seems like a straight-up insult or any other bitching - including complainy soapboxing -, you might ask here for help with removing said content.

The sandbox for this project is located at Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining.

Edited by MacronNotes on Apr 27th 2022 at 5:36:47 AM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#601: Apr 15th 2016 at 3:16:51 PM

Yeah, nuke the hell out of that. I may need to call in the troper who added it to tell them why we don't behave that way.

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Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#602: Apr 15th 2016 at 3:17:02 PM

[up][up] The same user also added the New 52 to So Bad Its Horrible, with most of the example being a note complaining about Superman & Lois Lane being split up and Superman and Wonder Woman receiving a Relationship Upgrade, before I deleted it.

Said user also on Violently Protective Girlfriend, deleted most of the text describing Wonder Woman as an example to Superman, so that the example now qualifies as a Zero Context Example.

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#603: Apr 15th 2016 at 3:18:03 PM

Zapped.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#604: Apr 15th 2016 at 3:20:04 PM

Yeesh, this guy had some agenda.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#605: Apr 15th 2016 at 3:46:33 PM

From what I've seen on various comics-related sites, the New 52 genuinely doesn't seem like it's going to be fondly recalled, but calling the entire thing a Dork Age seems like misuse. And of course obviously this guy had too much of an axe to grind anyway.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#607: Apr 15th 2016 at 7:52:34 PM

[up] Nice! [awesome]

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#608: Apr 21st 2016 at 1:34:24 PM

I don't know what to do with this example of Internet Backdraft in YMMV.Fire Emblem Fates, especially since it's concerning the controversial localization (which imo is extremely overblown).

  • Mentioning any of the censorship in the international release online (and, in some circles, any localization changes period) is surefire way to drag you into a Flame War. Hell, mentioning any aspect of the game, period, is risky, with more and more being piled onto the Broken Base fire near-constantly.

edited 21st Apr '16 1:34:59 PM by Karxrida

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#609: Apr 21st 2016 at 2:10:00 PM

That first sentence is fine. The second sentence is just hyperbole that adds nothing.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#610: Apr 21st 2016 at 2:22:44 PM

How does this look?

  • Internet Backdraft: Mentioning the censorship applied to the international release will likely result in a Flame War due to the controversy surrounding it.

Not sure if mentioning the localization is necessary.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#611: Apr 21st 2016 at 2:24:12 PM

I've seen just as much whining about the localization changes, so that part should stay.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#612: Apr 21st 2016 at 2:26:40 PM

How about now?

  • Internet Backdraft: Mentioning the censorship applied to the international release or general changes made in the localization will likely result in a Flame War, as both are controversial.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#613: Apr 21st 2016 at 2:43:18 PM

Weird, my post is duping itself even as I edit only one.

edited 21st Apr '16 2:59:46 PM by VeryMelon

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#614: Apr 21st 2016 at 2:43:18 PM

Weird, my post is duping itself even as I edit only one.

edited 21st Apr '16 2:59:46 PM by VeryMelon

devtom TEST Since: Nov, 2015
TEST
#615: Apr 21st 2016 at 3:10:42 PM

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#616: Apr 21st 2016 at 3:21:14 PM

Apparently it's a fluke from the code changeover.

So, how is it now?

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#618: May 3rd 2016 at 2:13:14 AM

as mentioned on Ask The Tropers, Supposedly Rebellious Series is full of Complaining About Shows You Dont Like. First example on the page - a generic example complaiining about Yamato Nadeshiko in relation to Magical Girls. (Although I don't think the author realises it's what he's complaining about.)

EDIT:I see bad analytical reasoning here, too. The American Horror Movie wall of text generic example is Not an example. I think we need to be like Jason Voorhees and take a chainsaw to the page.

Feminist 'analysis' worse than what SRS would do of Dragonriders of Pern shouldn't be on the page either.

edited 3rd May '16 2:27:15 AM by TheOneWhoTropes

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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#619: May 3rd 2016 at 10:54:08 AM

The problems with that page are inherent in the title. Supposedly Rebellious Series? It might as well be called, "Shows that FAILED at their tone!"

Although the words

Feminist 'analysis'

raised some ire from me, the page itself does look like it exists solely for complaining.

edited 3rd May '16 10:56:17 AM by TobiasDrake

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TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#620: May 3rd 2016 at 11:10:43 AM

To be clear, I wasn't aiming that at all feminists - just the author of that particular Wall of Text screed. (shitredditsays and its associated subs would be fairer than that, usually.) I've done a wick check, and there isn't much. Nearly all of it is complaining, or ZCE's. I should have put Feminist in scare quotes, too.

edited 5th May '16 11:24:45 AM by TheOneWhoTropes

Keeper of The Celestial Flame
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#621: May 3rd 2016 at 4:35:37 PM

[nja]

edited 3rd May '16 4:36:24 PM by VeryMelon

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#622: May 5th 2016 at 9:46:51 AM

While wick cleaning, I came across this in YMMV.Gone With The Wind:

  • Ending Fatigue: If you are assigned this book for school, run. That is all.

Not only is it a ZCE, but it complains by practically saying "avoid at all costs" without mentioning why it fits. Right now, it's commented out, as there's no context.

edited 5th May '16 9:47:48 AM by Berrenta

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#623: May 5th 2016 at 9:51:03 AM

That's the epitome of a bad example; we could use it as a citation for how not to write for the wiki.

edited 5th May '16 9:51:11 AM by Fighteer

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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#624: May 5th 2016 at 2:53:52 PM

Nuke with extreme prejudice!

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TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#625: May 6th 2016 at 7:46:49 AM

Supposedly Rebellious Series now has a TRS thread.

Also, nuke the Gone With The Wind non-example of Ending Fatigue.

edited 6th May '16 7:48:30 AM by TheOneWhoTropes

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