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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#2401: Apr 24th 2016 at 8:23:07 AM

Inorite? The effort put into the worldbuilding isn't something that you'd expect from a fanfic about the source works.

... And let's just say that certain parts of the 2nd chapter were so innovative (the "OMG that is so logical and yet it never occurred to me before!" kind of innovative), I greatly lamented that they were not animated so that I can actually see what's happening, and leave it at that. <whistles>

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#2402: Apr 25th 2016 at 2:08:16 PM

On a different note... Could Rachnera be good for Shinji Ikari as his girlfriend?

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#2403: Apr 25th 2016 at 2:12:20 PM

Not having seen Evangelion, I don't feel qualified to answer that question, but I can't imagine why she would be. All I know about Shinji is that he does a decent rug impression and likes to anger-fap over comatose women.

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Elfive Since: May, 2009
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#2405: Apr 25th 2016 at 2:24:04 PM

You Screw One Goat, what can I say?

Whoops, thought that was a redirect to Never Live It Down.

edited 25th Apr '16 2:24:46 PM by RedSavant

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#2406: Apr 25th 2016 at 3:11:43 PM

For clarity's sake, when I said "good for Shinji", I meant that in the Character Development sense by convincing/motivating him to develop an actual spine, face his fears... that sort of thing.

And I don't know about you, but I think we have sufficient leeway when it comes to turns Shinji on and off regarding women that we don't have to assume that he'll be disgusted by Rachnera's nonhuman half. If you really need a way to justify that, however, I have an idea: Have it that he had such low self-esteem that ever since he discovered sexuality upon hitting puberty, he completely convinced himself that he was going to get stuck with an utterly hideous woman, and for some reason decided to "prepare" himself by imagining all the various ways a woman could be horribly repulsive. This left him sufficiently desensitized that Rachnera's spider body seems merely "unusual" to him. Bonus points if his morbid fantasizing had unknowingly caused his preferences to "shift" such that said spider body does turn him on to some degree, much to his surprise.

[up][up][up] Describing his personality as "makes a decent rug impression" is an oversimplification that glosses over the few times he managed to demonstrated redeemable qualities. There's a reason he has Cowardly Lion and The So-Called Coward included in his trope list.

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#2407: Apr 25th 2016 at 3:44:08 PM

[up]In short: Yes, she would.

But the issue with Shinji is that the times he displays those redeeming qualities are... Hell, aren't they really only during the events leading up to the Third Impact? The reason why everyone, even the fans of EVA, give Shinji such shit is that "makes a decent rug impression" is a valid description of him for like... 90% of the series.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#2408: Apr 25th 2016 at 3:52:12 PM

Having watched the series I can say thats not really true.

Actually the events leading up to Third Impact are where he's worse, since the events of the series have basically broken him and led him to basically shut down.

edited 25th Apr '16 3:52:54 PM by Bocaj

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#2409: Apr 25th 2016 at 4:20:11 PM

For the record, I'm pretty sure 'Shinji has convinced himself he'll end up with a hideous woman and that's why he's willing to settle for Rachnera's marginally less horrible spider ass' is exactly the wrong way to go about it.

edited 25th Apr '16 4:21:44 PM by RedSavant

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Elfive Since: May, 2009
#2410: Apr 25th 2016 at 4:34:03 PM

Honestly "Rachnera kind of looks like Rei" is a better motivation.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#2411: Apr 25th 2016 at 5:09:20 PM

I think the question that's poking at me is less 'would Rachnera be good for Shinji' and more 'what does Shinji have to recommend him to Rachnera'?

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Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#2412: Apr 25th 2016 at 5:52:19 PM

I don't think it'd be a very good match-up. Part of the reason that Rachnera loves Kimihito as much as she does is that he's comfortable enough both in his own skin and around everyone else that he just treats her normally. Or rather as normally as a 'big girl' like her can be treated.

Shinji, for all that his flaws are often overstated, is a person that strikes me as barely being comfortable in his own skin let alone around others. The series pretty much proves it with his interactions with most other people. Asuka might be a bad example because those two end up like oil and water, but even with other people he's still not great.

Rach might pity him to some degree, but any attempts she made to toughen him up would probably result in him withdrawing more and she'd probably naturally lose any interest in him that she had.

edited 26th Apr '16 11:42:13 AM by Grahf

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#2413: Apr 25th 2016 at 6:09:37 PM

Shinji is a severe introverted neurotic that can probably keep a therapist busy for years. He needs a girl that probably won't rile him up so much.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#2416: Apr 27th 2016 at 3:18:47 AM

[up][up][up] & [up][up][up][up] The thing is, I've seen convincing arguments (and fics built around such) that what Shinji desires/needs in a woman can be summed up as "a pillar of strength and assurance". To quote Asuka from The Courtship of Shinji Ikari — in which she's trying to play matchmaker for Shinji out of genuine good will (their first meeting went differently, hence her better initial opinion of him) while continuing to be in denial about her own attraction to him — what he needs is "someone confident, someone to stand beside him and challenge him to do better, to make him believe in himself. Not a helpless wallflower."

And do note that Shinji is not so severely broken on the inside during the first half of the story; it's after a few of the more emotionally traumatic events of said story (which happen around the middle to latter half of it) that his psychological condition worsens so horribly that indeed the only feasible way to salvage anything is either intense psychotherapy or a powerfully positive event pushing him far enough away from the brink.

edited 27th Apr '16 3:20:52 AM by MarqFJA

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AtomicKitKat Atomic Kit Kat from Radiotight bunker Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#2417: Apr 27th 2016 at 5:43:40 AM

Moving back on topic, sort of. Next event is Offense Keros, revival is Lyuca, and there's now "Love Burst", which is like a limit break for affection, with new items instead of creams, available from the upcoming event, as well as in the new "normal" maps.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#2418: Apr 27th 2016 at 9:47:09 AM

Oh, interesting. Though it does sound like perhaps they're starting to run low on ideas, what with the revivals (which are nice, don't get me wrong) and all the alt-versions of the main series girls.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#2419: Apr 27th 2016 at 11:02:43 AM

Revival?

On a related note, how does the Dating Sim aspect work, exactly? Do strictly pair up with one girl throughout the playthrough? Or can you "juggle" multiple relationships at the same time?

edited 27th Apr '16 11:04:00 AM by MarqFJA

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#2420: Apr 27th 2016 at 11:05:31 AM

[up]I have a feeling it's like Kantai Collection. You can juggle multiple relationships

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#2421: Apr 27th 2016 at 11:16:15 AM

Kantai Collection does not have Dating Sim-style relationships. You just acquire a ring (whether through the one-time quest, or by buying additional ones with real money), and give it to the girl after she reaches Level 99.

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#2422: Apr 27th 2016 at 11:18:08 AM

Ryuka was released during a time-limited event a few months ago, and apparently they're bringing that event back. Really it's just 'run the new Outing map until you get the new girl' like all the events, but.

And honestly, it's not a Dating Sim at all, or at least nothing that merits the title. You level up the girls by fusing them with duplicates or with other monster girls, and you raise their affection by using charges of an item called Care Cream to do one of those 'here's a CG of the character, click around until you find the hidden spot that gives you more affection points'-type minigames. That's literally all there is to it - you get little scenes with the girls based on their affection percentage. One is a daily life conversation, which just uses their standing sprite from their card and generally features a mini storyline based on their personality(/gimmick), and the other is the 'care conversation', which gives you another CG and is more romantic, since it tends to be based on their care scenario (preening wings or helping with shedding or stuff like that).

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AtomicKitKat Atomic Kit Kat from Radiotight bunker Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#2423: May 18th 2016 at 9:21:38 PM

New chapter is up. Someone apparently put up 2/3 of the pages online earlier. There's a link to the continuation/summary in the next thread near the bottom.

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WoodyAlien3rd from Persimmon Land (Italy) Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: Omelette du fromage~
#2424: May 19th 2016 at 1:03:18 PM

Chapter 43 or "Miia wants to be independent" edition. An actual example of daily life with monster girls, we see all members of the harem (Lala only in the opening color pages, though) plus several other characters... Furries and dairy farm lovers are going to be very happy. The threat of the 3 Mysterious Girls is only mentioned in passing, but something should happen next month.

Also, small cameo of some of the girls from the browser game, as models on a magazine, and glorious blue boobs & hips!

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#2425: May 19th 2016 at 2:37:45 PM

Is there any convenient way to get a hold of these chapters already? Blisswater has apparently disappeared into the Bermuda Triangle, and the thread-search on 4chan or moe.archive or whatever is nonsense. I'm three chapters behind and it's starting to tick me off.

edited 19th May '16 2:38:03 PM by RedSavant

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