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Deadlock Clock: Jun 16th 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#26: Mar 20th 2012 at 11:26:09 PM

Egad, another Bad Snowclone.
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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#27: Mar 23rd 2012 at 1:10:48 PM

Anyway, what should best be done with this trope?

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lebrel Tsundere pet. from Basement, Ivory Tower Since: Oct, 2009
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#28: Mar 23rd 2012 at 1:15:54 PM

I vote for broaden and against rename.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#29: Mar 23rd 2012 at 1:18:37 PM

Well whatever fixes it. I'd prefer broadening and renaming, but at least broadening. This is more narrow than it needs to be (at least until the broader trope attracts enough examples to make a Sub-Trope).

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storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#30: Mar 24th 2012 at 11:39:27 AM

I think it should be broadened to any flimsy excuse to get out of something, because that's what the trope name sounds like.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#31: Apr 15th 2012 at 12:02:06 PM

Okay, should we just make a page action crowner?

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HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns from BK.NY.US Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Less than three
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#32: Apr 15th 2012 at 12:34:17 PM

Nvm, this is what happens when you skim, kids.

I don't think this is a name problem, as opposed to a missing supertrope problem (rather, an underused supertrope) or a schizo definition problem.

edited 15th Apr '12 12:36:22 PM by HersheleOstropoler

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#33: Apr 15th 2012 at 12:36:04 PM

It's one letter away from Deus ex 'Scuse Me.

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Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#34: Apr 16th 2012 at 12:05:49 AM

I also support broadening but not renaming.

Additionally, I don't think the broader form is a subtrope of Deus ex 'Scuse Me. I think it's a Sister Trope. Deus ex 'Scuse Me is when a plot event happens to remove one character from the situation—i.e. something extrinsic to the character. The broader form of I Need to Go Iron My Dog is when a character comes up with an excuse to remove themselves from a situation—i.e. something intrinsic to the character.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#35: Apr 16th 2012 at 12:17:06 AM

I can't believe I forgot. The name looks like dialog.

Now that might not be an instant rename factor, but it does mean that the name isn't the best.

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#36: Apr 16th 2012 at 12:58:16 AM

This name here is much better than the Deus Ex Snow Clone, though.

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HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns from BK.NY.US Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Less than three
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#37: Apr 16th 2012 at 6:41:09 AM

I think the doylist and watsonian versions are different tropes, though they can overlap. That is, when the writer needs to get rid of a character (who may or may not have a good in-universe reason for leaving) versus when the character is making an excuse to leave (which may or may not specifically suit the author's purposes)

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GreatLimmick Since: Jan, 2001
#38: May 9th 2012 at 10:52:50 AM

The main thing that confuses me about this is the difference between ironing the dog and Going to the Store. The only difference I see is plausibility.

HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns from BK.NY.US Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Less than three
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#39: May 9th 2012 at 11:15:51 AM

Plausibility seems to be the distinction. I'm not sure that makes them different tropes, though, particularly since plausibility doesn't necessarily make an excuse less obviously an excuse.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#40: May 10th 2012 at 6:33:59 PM

I think plausibility makes all the difference. If it's plausible, it's an actual excuse, no matter how paper thin. If it's nonsense, it's not an excuse, but a polite way of making a very direct statement.

He: "Can I pick you up Friday at eight?" She: "I'll be washing my hair." Plausible, if paper-thin.

He: "Can we go out some time?" She: "I'll be washing my hair." Not plausible; a clear, if polite, no.

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EnragedFilia Since: Oct, 2010
#41: May 10th 2012 at 7:31:02 PM

Do note, however, that the implausible excuse is also frequently treated as plausible by the other character, due to Rule of Funny. In that case, it's sometimes left up to the audience to decide which is being used.

AceOfSevens Since: Feb, 2010
#42: May 11th 2012 at 1:04:10 AM

Sometimes the implausible turns out to be true because of rule of funny as well.

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#43: Jun 13th 2012 at 7:14:04 AM

Clocking due to lack of activity.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#44: Jun 13th 2012 at 10:56:22 AM

Crowner merged with thread.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#45: Jun 14th 2012 at 5:32:24 AM

I have requested a rename here, since the current name is dialogue-like.

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AceOfSevens Since: Feb, 2010
#46: Jun 14th 2012 at 6:07:00 PM

It's not ambiguous dialogue where we need to worry about examples of people who said that without it being the trope. It's a trope about dialogue, so unless we want a basic description in simple English like "bad excuse to leave," this is a good name.

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#47: Jun 14th 2012 at 9:58:30 PM

[up]That. It's not dialogue where we need to worry that someone will come up with it somewhere else and pothole it just because the words are the same. I mean, it's not like someone Got Better.

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#48: Jun 18th 2012 at 11:08:06 AM

Looks like we're pretty close to consensus here.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#49: Jun 19th 2012 at 2:25:24 PM

Calling crowner: broaden I Need to Go Iron My Dog to "a paper-thin reason to leave is made by a character and accepted by the other characters".

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DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#50: Jun 19th 2012 at 2:28:32 PM

Should we now consider a new name for this trope?

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