Illustrates the trope better: Hidden Buxom

Does it really need to be flipped?

Yes.

Why so?

edited 15th Feb '12 5:04:04 AM by ThatHuman

Because the majority of the users here are English-speakers and readers, and that's the way we read in English. This isn't Anime Tropes wiki.

This isn't a manga and English reads left to right. Flip is to avoid confusing 99.9% of readers to please the 0.1% who would notice.

edited 15th Feb '12 5:06:23 AM by rodneyAnonymous

But,official translations of manga, and even some OEL Manga are right-to-left, no? I mean, right-to-left will show that the picture wasn't originally in English.

edited 15th Feb '12 5:07:44 AM by ThatHuman

And this isn't an official translation of manga.

edited 15th Feb '12 5:07:55 AM by rodneyAnonymous

Official or not, that's how translations are made. At least it'd be clear that the image is translated.

Also, by "this", you mean what, exactly?

edited 15th Feb '12 5:08:37 AM by ThatHuman

By "this" I mean This Wiki.

You are talking about preserving the original artistic vision or something. It's a page image for an article.

No, I'm talking about making it clear that the image is a translation, and not the original page.

edited 15th Feb '12 5:11:08 AM by ThatHuman

That doesn't matter at all.

But, wouldn't that be misleading somehow?

No. Not flipping it would be more misleading, given that 99.9% of readers would read it wrong. Besides, who cares if it is? Could be totally made-up "translations" for a joke or something. But that probably wouldn't have consensus.

edited 15th Feb '12 5:17:11 AM by rodneyAnonymous

Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics much? And if there is the possibility that the translation is made up, shouldn't there be something to show that the image was not originally in English?

edited 15th Feb '12 5:25:41 AM by ThatHuman

Yep the number is made-up. It's probably also conservative, I am guessing there are fewer than 1 in 1000 visitors who not only read manga but do so regularly enough to read the image "correctly" within the first half-dozen attempts. Maybe that is a gross underestimate. It doesn't really matter. It would be confusing to a greater portion, to please a smaller portion, for no reason.

"And if there is the possibility that the translation is made up, shouldn't there be something to show that the image was not originally in English?"

Why?

edited 15th Feb '12 5:32:12 AM by rodneyAnonymous

I don't think anybody needs to read manga regularly to know that Japanese and related languages are read right-to-left. And, well, I was mainly thinking we should be absolutely clear on everything.

Why?!

Okay, how about we flip the article image, but include the original, fullsized, uncropped, unflipped image in the Image Links page?

That's a fine idea.

Yeah, if something ever happens, the image won't get lost. Maybe that's just Crazy-Prepared, but not a bad idea.

Good. Final time: All in agreement on using this (flipped) pic and caption?

EDIT: How come the caption doesn't align correctly on the forum?

edited 15th Feb '12 6:17:59 AM by MarqFJA

The flipped pic is up, potholed, and tagged, and the original version and the old pic are on the Image Links page, with the latter marked as a possible spoiler. Now, my question is, is the original version of the new pic linked to a still art or the actual doujinshi? If it's the latter, I think it should be marked as potentially NSFW.

Still art. It's a standalone omake artwork before the doujinshi proper, for pure comedy factor (and maybe foreshadowing the character's Hidden Buxom status in the doujinshi).

edited 15th Feb '12 6:51:08 AM by MarqFJA

Cool, thanks. Locking up.