Is this really a trope?: World Of Buxom

So for those who haven't figured it out by now, I'm kind of a fan of the boobs, and even I think this trope is pushing it. It's pretty much Generic Cuteness, only with big breasts.

The only example that seems semi-legit is the one I added a couple months ago from The Metabarons, where a planet is populated only by very buxom cavewomen, in a galaxy full of otherwise varied bra sizes. The rest of them are just, "this anime or tv show or video game features only large breasted female characters." Is that really distinct enough from Generic Cuteness?

Are there any cases where there is an in-universe, maaaaybe mildly plot important justification? I'm unfamiliar with most of the examples (thankfully), but the ones I'm familiar with are just Author Appeal.

Oh, and by the way, the examples are horrid. "X has a cast with huge boobs except for Z, who is a Pettanko".

The sections gives me a "Hey, if you like big boobs, check out these works!" vibe.

Oh and previous thread

edited 5th Feb '12 10:13:29 AM by captainpat

If Generic Cuteness is a trope, and Puni Plush is a trope, I think this is too, and it is distinct. It's not really cute.

It's don't think Generic Cuteness is limited to just being cute looking and Puni Plush is an artstyle. This is not an art style it's just pointing a common physical trait character's in a work have.

It's not Generic Cuteness, though. That's more of the result of when you streamline the drawing process. It's easier to draw Generic Cuteness than to include details like freckles, pimples, small scars, deformities, and other things that most people would say detract from the appearance of a character.

Drawing someone with huge knockers takes more effort, especially considering the extra attention needed to keep it from looking wrong. It's really a style in the opposite of Generic Cuteness.

What? drawing huge boobs and animated them are two different things.

sidenote: It is just me or is Generic Cuteness a more subjective version of Only Six Faces.

The point is that it's something that takes more effort to include than not. Generic Cuteness is partially a result of making things easier to draw. Only Six Faces is closely related to it. The difference is the other part of Generic Cuteness, which is make it visually appealing in general, much like Hollywood Homely. World of Buxom is more about making everyone a bombshell of sexiness, which often is true to the author and the loser who's supposed to represent the viewer. I may disagree that it makes things better, but that doesn't mean I don't think it's its own trope. Or at least, something other than Generic Cuteness.

Why bring up Hollywood Homely, that's subjective? All World of Buxom means is that a lot of female characters im work have large breasts. Why it's done is gonna vary between the works and that's just getting into authorial intent.

edited 5th Feb '12 12:04:24 PM by captainpat

What's your point?

My point is that all there is to this trope is pointing out works with a lot of busty woman. It would be like having a trope to point out a work has a lot of red heads, blondes or any other physical trait. It's Interesting, but not tropable.

edited 5th Feb '12 12:14:52 PM by captainpat

Well, it's not really "a lot of" as much as "everyone who isn't an exception". It's when it's used to the point where it's an art style rather than something that's commonplace.

I'm sure about the technical definition of an artstyle but I'm pretty that characters having large breasts is not an artstyle.

edited 5th Feb '12 1:52:31 PM by captainpat

I say it is.

Saying it is does not make it so. You need more than one body part for an art style. Especially since the styles used otherwise have nothing in common.

Call it a stylistic element, artstyle trait, whatever. It still relates to the artstyle.

A trait or element of which artstyle? Because the way one artist can draw a pair of large breasts can look completely different from another's.

edited 5th Feb '12 2:28:48 PM by captainpat

Does it need to be a specific one? Why?

Yet the common factor among them is the resulting implausible commonness of large bust sizes in comparison to Real Life.

Case in point: Any Japanese native can tell you with complete sincerity that the Eiken OVA is very unrealistic in its depiction of the average highschool-age Japanese girl physique.

And I don't think I need to mention Western comics' Most Common Superpower, do I?

That logic does not work, because both the face and the breast are "body part complexes" - i.e. both are composed of multiple body parts, even though the average person may consider either one a single body part.

edited 5th Feb '12 2:49:34 PM by MarqFJA

Look, it's clearly some sort of media convention that some works have all busty women. But is it really distinct enough to be a separate trope from Generic Cuteness or Author Appeal? That's the question here. Hitman: Blood Money has all large-breasted female non player characters. Is there an actual reason for this besides "developers are guys and like big boobs, players are guys and also like'em?"

I'm not really looking for a reason to cut this. It's more like a reason not to. I wouldn't mind this trope staying around, as long as we can defend it's legitimacy. It's already on my watchlist and I've already been doing some cleaning on it.

edited 5th Feb '12 2:49:30 PM by Martello

You don't see anyone contesting the tropability of Most Common Superpower (the current version, that is), do you? The only real difference between it and World of Buxom is that MCSP is specific to the Super Hero genre. And for the record, World of Buxom is supposed to be MCSP's more generic Super-Trope.

edited 5th Feb '12 2:51:45 PM by MarqFJA

Most Common Superpower is an agregated trope. It only exist because all superheroines in just about all western superhero comics or other works in that genre have large breasts.

edited 5th Feb '12 2:52:03 PM by captainpat

Right, and that's another page that I curate. The thing with Most Common Superpower is that it's a singular thing that almost all comic books feature only large-breasted significant female characters. World of Buxom is non media-specific, which makes it a little more questionable.

Like I said, I'm very open to being convinced of this trope's legitimacy.

Yes, that's what I meant.

edited 5th Feb '12 3:05:54 PM by Martello

1) It's technically specific to a section of what one would call "Fanservice vehicle" 'pseudo-genre'. True, not all "fanservice vehicles" are World of Buxom, but it's almost guaranteed that any World of Buxom work is either a fanservice vehicle or outright porn.

2) A trope being an "aggregate trope" does not mean that whatever Super-Trope that is made after the aforementioned trope's creation would have to be one too.

3) You mean "almost all comic books feature only large-breasted superheroines/supervillainesses; this is the one constant of played-straight MCSP. Non-superheroines/supervillainess that aren't major characters don't always get the same treatment, though.

edited 5th Feb '12 3:01:20 PM by MarqFJA

@Martello: It's not Generic Cuteness, as I've explained above. Generic Cuteness is a product making things generally appealing and easier to draw. World of Buxom is definitely harder to draw, and is much more of a specific appeal.

Author Appeal is one of those tropes that you really need a Word of God proof, or several works by the same author to show consistency. This one can be applied for a single work, no matter if it's one creator or a team, and you don't need a Word of God. There is some overlap, but I think it would be shoehorning to merge them.