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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#13076: Nov 25th 2014 at 7:00:07 PM

Medea is fairly Yandere herself. It's just she had no competition and Kozuki didn't reject her, so she had no need to act like rejected Yanderes tend to.

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#13077: Nov 25th 2014 at 7:03:51 PM

Elizabeth Bathory also fills the yandere slot. IIRC she had some neurosis where, if you saw her tailbone, she'd react "Marry me OR DIE". Or something like that. I think I saw it on the wiki around the time CCC came out, but it's been forever since then.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#13078: Nov 25th 2014 at 7:42:29 PM

Tamamo is an interesting case in Internet Waifuness.

'Cuz she stops just short of flat out telling you that you will be replaced eventually.

It contrasts with Nero, who starts falling in love with Hakuno around Round 2 and later on is hopelessly in love with Hakuno to the point that, after expressing her fear of rejection due to her identity, she also says she'd work harder just to earn Hakuno's love.

EMIYA is just... well, EMIYA. His loyalty to Hakuno is a lot less suspect than his loyalty to Rin, at least.

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#13079: Nov 25th 2014 at 7:59:47 PM

That doesn't stop Tamamo from being absolutely adorable and the best Servant.

Dammit. Now I have to beat EXTRA so I can start another playthrough with Nero.

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gwonbush Lurking Puma Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#13080: Nov 25th 2014 at 8:39:45 PM

Gil is clearly the best Servant in Extra (CCC), even if he has extra bad ends attached to him.

edited 25th Nov '14 8:39:57 PM by gwonbush

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#13081: Nov 25th 2014 at 8:54:06 PM

Semiramis would be good, since she's gotten ship tease with a Shirou at least. Nero's the Whore of Bablyon, right? I wonder if that would be enough for her to be summonable in the Beast class. Still a villain of Revelations, after all.

Speaking of non sequiters, given the way older Servants are better summoning Shamhat, the sacred prostitute who civilized Enkidu, as a Temptress would get you a total badass.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#13082: Nov 25th 2014 at 9:36:22 PM

Just sayin', of the three playable servants in the original EXTRA, there's only one who ever expresses any interest in having a different master.

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#13083: Nov 25th 2014 at 9:52:58 PM

Who? EMIYA?

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#13084: Nov 25th 2014 at 9:54:01 PM

Hahahaha no.

He admits he finds Rin attractive, but expresses no interest in having a different master.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
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#13085: Nov 25th 2014 at 9:57:44 PM

I thought he expressed interest in a Master that doesn't suck in the early weeks.

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#13086: Nov 25th 2014 at 10:01:49 PM

[up][up] Then who? Tamamo if you choose the route girl over her?

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#13087: Nov 25th 2014 at 10:11:48 PM

[up][up]I can't seem to recall that. I recall him complaining about how much Hakuno sucks at first, but I don't seem to recall him actively expressing interest in having a different master.

[up]Tamamo flat out tells you that she will love her next master... regardless of who it is.

Hakuno is not the Master, Hakuno is a Master.

edited 25th Nov '14 10:13:13 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#13088: Nov 26th 2014 at 1:46:24 AM

I know what it means. It just seems... I dunno, rude?... to call the French Arturia clone "French" as a designation/name. It seems very Hey, You!, sort of. Especially since all the other Sabers but Nero (Italian) are British....
Well, she's the only Frenchwoman in the group (incidentally, Nero is the only Roman), while everyone else is British. If you can think of a more appropiate French name, I'd consider it.

I have a cousin named Artie that's not embarrassed by the name.
Saber Alter is a King who conquered all of Europe through great bloodshed, tyrannically draconian yet ultimately just rule, and terrifying her enemies. Calling her by a diminutive would be an insult to her pride and image as a bloodthristy tyrant.

@Marq You are stacking the deck too heavily on the "hero" side. The heroes should generally be the underdogs to preserve the narrative tension.
Trust me when I'm say that you have seen only the tip of the iceberg. Here's a little spoiler: Kirei has Gawain as his Saber, as well as a few other dangerous Servants.

Oh, and for hilarity, I'm giving Rin Proto!Gilgamesh and Himura Kiseki's Archerkonote  as her Archer and Caster Servants, respectively. Sorry, but I cannot pass up the chance to have Rin suffer from being either trolled or suavely-flirted with by two of her own Servants without her being able to get back at them.

Alternately, Mordred spent five years in the Middle East and was herself a Hassan. … what? It's not spectacularly more bullshit than King Arthur, his son, Ceasar Nero, and Francis Drake all actually having been women, two of whom (and also Joan of Arc) were identical in appearance to the first!
Insurmountable problem: The Arthurian period of British history predates the existence of the Assassins in the Middle East — heck, the existence of Islam as a religion — by several centuries. You'd need time travel to make this work.

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#13089: Nov 26th 2014 at 1:55:33 AM

I do recall making Kara No Kyokai fics. Now I'm just brainstorming series/franchises that would be interesting to cross over with KnK.

Suddenly, Agents of SHIELD comes to mind.

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#13090: Nov 26th 2014 at 2:18:13 AM

[up][up][up] I must have not gotten to that conversation yet.

Besides, given the nature of Heroic Spirits, it's not like she'll remember Hakuno anyway. Nor will Nero.

Unless the Moon Cell somehow allows Heroic Spirits to retain any knowledge gained from past Grail Wars (although we're probably going to end up destroying the Holy Grail or SE.RA.PH so that's meaningless in this case).

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Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#13091: Nov 26th 2014 at 5:58:02 AM

She openly admits in the early weeks that she is explicitly shopping around, even while you are her Master, so, uh...

And yeah, Tamamo has knowledge of her previous summoning, and it's vaguely plot related (not too much, since she needs to hit the same plot beats as Nero and Archer, but still).

It's likely that the Moon Cell updates its records after each Grail War (since it is an information gathering exercise, at least it was at first), Servant memories included.

edited 26th Nov '14 6:00:54 AM by Otherarrow

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#13092: Nov 26th 2014 at 6:35:51 AM

The Moon Cell is entirely self contained, and does not depend on the Throne of Heroes. With that in mind, you should be able to tell that it does not necessarily follow the same rules as the Great Grail of Fuyuki.

For starters, it doesn't need to make a new copy of the Heroic Spirit every time there's a war. It can easily just keep reusing the same copy every time.

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#13093: Nov 26th 2014 at 7:50:14 AM

[up][up] I... don't remember that at all. Then again, I played those first few weeks ages ago so... yeah. I also completely forgot about that plot point since I knew about it despite having not gotten that far.

[up] Obviously. For starters, there were 128 Masters in the beginning.

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#13094: Nov 26th 2014 at 11:17:56 AM

Eeeh, I really don't like the idea of "nicknames" for Servants. Either their Class designation, their True Name, or in the case of multiple Arturias under the same class, distinguish them by their colors (Red Saber, Blue Saber, Black Saber, White Saber, Gold Saber, etc…)

re:Time Travel: As said before, Nasuverse history is sufficiently Broad Strokes to real-world history that I feel it's still viable.

edited 26th Nov '14 11:20:45 AM by EvaUnit01

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#13096: Nov 30th 2014 at 8:12:05 PM

Oh my Servant!

Keiichi stared, dumbfounded, at the phone.

"Well?" asked Shirou. "What did they tell you?"

His roommate shrugged. "I got a wrong number, I guess. They just told me something like 'You have been chosen as a Master for the Holy Grail War, please wait for our representative', and then hung on me. Weird. So, do you want pizza instead?" he asked, absently scratching the back of his left hand.

Emiya took a good look at it. "Oh, geez, that's quite a nasty rash there, all of a sud—"

Then their ceiling was blown at the middle by a beam of light descending from the sky. As both boys were flung back, something landed at the center of the beam, graciously. And when the light died down, they could see they had a newcomer, in the form of a gorgeous petite blond woman in a long blue dress, with armored gauntlets.

"Greetings," she coldly told them. "I am Servant Saber, from the Throne of Heroes Relief Office. Now, which one of you is my Master?"

edited 1st Dec '14 5:58:28 AM by NapoleonDeCheese

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#13097: Nov 30th 2014 at 8:13:57 PM

Oh, Crap!, he won't last very long... [lol]

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#13098: Nov 30th 2014 at 8:28:44 PM

... "Saber Saber"? I think you meant "Servant Saber".

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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#13099: Nov 30th 2014 at 8:30:42 PM

Disregard, misread something.

edited 30th Nov '14 8:32:13 PM by rikalous


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