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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#14901: Oct 15th 2017 at 6:10:56 PM

Just as far as terminology goes in the initial description of the gun, the phrase "action frame" doesn't really make sense there. The action is the way the gun handles ammo, like bolt action or lever action. The section of the gun that holds the action and all the parts to cycle and fire the gun is the receiver.

They should have sent a poet.
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#14902: Oct 15th 2017 at 6:23:41 PM

[up]True, calling it the "action frame" is redundant.

edited 15th Oct '17 6:25:29 PM by pwiegle

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#14903: Oct 15th 2017 at 9:18:49 PM

Which of the black powder rifle cartridges are we talking about? Some are actually not all that bad.

Who watches the watchmen?
TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#14904: Oct 16th 2017 at 12:15:35 PM

Something funny I'd like to share about the Second Sino-Japanese War:

The Chinese were largely outgunned in terms of artillery and severely undersupplied compared to the Japanese. But their small arms had reliable designs, such as the Type 24 rifle, the Mauser C96 and the ZB vz.26 LMG. Quality varied from shoddy to excellent, but on the whole they got the job done.

The Japanese were extremely strong for much of the war, at least until 1945 when they finally began to weaken on the China front. But aside from the Arisaka rifle line, the Nambu Type 14 and their light machine guns, all their other small arms are honestly terrible.

The funny bit comes from how the Chinese were backwards in industry and production, yet produced such hard-hitting weapons, while the Japanese had vastly superior industry and produced terrible firearms.

Also, the Chinese used 8x57mm IS and 7.63x25mm Mauser as their standard rifle and pistol cartridges for the most part. Meanwhile, the Japanese had the much weaker 6.5x50mm Arisaka rifle rounds and 8x22mm Nambu pistol rounds at the beginning of the war. The introduction of the 7.7x58mm Arisaka rifle round fixed this issue somewhat, but the Japanese stuck with the 8mm cartridge for the rest of the war.

edited 16th Oct '17 12:17:29 PM by TheWildWestPyro

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#14905: Oct 20th 2017 at 11:10:33 PM

Man has 16 guns stolen from his home and is now fearing that they may be used for crime.

“Be careful who you tell, keep it to yourself, don’t be bragging about how many guns you got, be careful who you let into your house and make sure you buy a quality safe,” he said. “And that’s another thing…don’t let strippers in your house.”

Swaggerty said last winter a woman he knew in passing showed up at his front door on Kokomo’s north side, shivering without a coat, and asking if he still had a spare bedroom.

Over his wife’s objections, Swaggerty let the woman move in.

“And I put her in the bedroom with the safes and it came back and bit me,” he said. “The fact is she was a stripper is what we found out. We didn’t know that she was a stripper.”

A stripper with a husband who was in prison on a drug charge with a substance abuse problem herself, said Swaggerty who came home for lunch on May 3 and realized someone had kicked in his backdoor and stole all his guns and the safes in which they were stored.

“I had probably three .22 rifles, two shotguns, numerous pistols, I had an SKS which is .762 millimeter, I had an AK 74 which is a .554 millimeter and I had an AR 15 which I just got for Christmas which is a .556 millimeter,” said Swaggerty, who estimated his guns were worth $10,000.

While the guns were locked in safes, the cabinets were constructed of thin steel and were not secured to the floor meaning two people would be able to move them.

“It wasn’t just her and they better brought a truck because they didn’t put them in a car,” said Haggerty, who found tire tracks in his side yard after the theft.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#14906: Oct 20th 2017 at 11:14:32 PM

[up] ...<facepalm>

Disgusted, but not surprised
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#14907: Oct 20th 2017 at 11:17:54 PM

Fucking idiot.

Oh really when?
math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#14908: Oct 21st 2017 at 3:55:52 AM

And this is why you don't trust yahoos with killing implements.

edited 21st Oct '17 3:56:10 AM by math792d

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#14909: Oct 21st 2017 at 8:26:54 AM

Really, it seems more like the stranger was the untrustworthy one here, not the one who allowed her to shelter in his home.

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#14910: Oct 21st 2017 at 8:29:46 AM

The only real problem I see here is that the guy is naïve and gullible. He fell for a pretty face with a sob story, and got bitten in the ass.

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#14911: Oct 21st 2017 at 4:10:57 PM

Yeah by the sound of it they were stored safely, the problem was him agreeing to a random near-stranger moving into his home.

Though the fact that he said numerous pistols instead of a specific number did give me pause, like dude, you should know how many pistols you own.

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#14912: Oct 21st 2017 at 9:09:48 PM

I've found this pic about Myanmar's native variant of the Galil. Here's my question. The one on top is the EMERK-3 and the one in the bottom is the MA-1 Carbine. Now, how is the MA-1 a carbine if it has a longer barrel than the EMERK-3?

AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#14913: Oct 22nd 2017 at 6:38:04 AM

Looks like it's because of the shorter/lighter stock, possibly a folding one by the look of it.

Plus, a lot of firearm descriptions tend towards the arbitrary. Historically there have been a variety of military carbines that were longer and more powerful than most modern-day assault rifles.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#14914: Oct 22nd 2017 at 7:09:34 AM

[up] I see. Thanks.

New question. For my novel series I'm making, part of the story is a certain territory proclaiming its independence. Normally, it'll need to arm its recruits for the army it'll be establishing, and I'll go with A Ks. Now then, which AK variant do I go with?

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#14915: Oct 22nd 2017 at 7:51:00 AM

What time period are we looking at here?

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#14917: Oct 22nd 2017 at 8:12:41 AM

Also, where is the territory? Makes a huge difference if they're located in East Asia or Eastern Europe.

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#14918: Oct 22nd 2017 at 8:13:30 AM

There is the AEK 971 if you want something slightly different. Also the Saiga MK-107 if they, semi-plausibly, were stocking civilian rivals for completely innocent purposes--nothing to do with any revolt.

DISCLAIMER: I know nothing about either rifle beyond their Wikipedia pages.

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#14919: Oct 22nd 2017 at 8:16:55 AM

[up][up] Fine, I'll get out of the bush. I wrote into the story a fictional armed attempt at independence for Tibet that succeeded because of assistance by a shadowy organization that controls world events from the shadows, with the attempt for independence starting because of said organization's machinations from the get-go.

edited 22nd Oct '17 11:14:07 AM by HallowHawk

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#14920: Oct 22nd 2017 at 8:19:33 AM

Type-56s then.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#14921: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:41:52 AM

Yeah, Type-56 if it must be an AK variant.

Oh really when?
HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#14922: Oct 22nd 2017 at 11:42:03 AM

[up][up] and [up] Other than Type-56s, why not also some Zastava gear?

Other than assault rifles, any recommendations for other types of weapons like submachine guns, sniper rifles, and anti-tank armaments?

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#14923: Oct 22nd 2017 at 12:03:37 PM

Just go with your bog standard disused gear that always falls into the hands of terrorist groups these days.

Oh really when?
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#14924: Oct 22nd 2017 at 12:06:40 PM

If you think you can justify getting supplies from the former Yugoslavia.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#14925: Oct 22nd 2017 at 12:15:01 PM

[up][up] Thanks

[up] And I have. However, that will go further off-topic, so I'll stop at this point. Thanks though.

New question: Other than the AR-15 and its descendants, any other horror stories from the American arms industry?

edited 22nd Oct '17 12:15:51 PM by HallowHawk


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