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Bluesunnyday Big Scientist from The Blue Lagoon Since: Apr, 2011
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#1: Sep 13th 2011 at 12:59:13 PM

Okay, I'd like to request a change to the picture for Knife Nut. It's just a guy holding two large knives. Could we possibly get it changed? The caption doesn't help either. It's just "You're not afraid of the dark, are you?" This plants it firmly in the "needs to be changed" category in my book.

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ArtisticPlatypus Resident pretentious dickwad from the bottom of my heart. Since: Jul, 2010
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#2: Sep 13th 2011 at 1:08:17 PM

Trope titles must be written in CamelCase here. Courtesy link: Knife Nut.

On-topic: I don't see why you think the current needs to be changed, but I wouldn't object if a cooler image was put there instead.

edited 13th Sep '11 1:10:05 PM by ArtisticPlatypus

This implies, quite correctly, that my mind is dark and damp and full of tiny translucent fish.
Bluesunnyday Big Scientist from The Blue Lagoon Since: Apr, 2011
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#3: Sep 13th 2011 at 1:09:08 PM

Sorry about that. A bit new to CamelCase.

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#4: Sep 13th 2011 at 1:12:21 PM

I fixed it the little widget at the top of the OP post lets you acess the thing and change it

A quick google of Knife Nut gives me this (it was a wiki url but unsure of the source.) then we have our image links Knife Nut (also the pic on Uncanny Valley Girl.)

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edited 13th Sep '11 1:36:53 PM by Raso

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Zikiel Since: Feb, 2010
#5: Sep 13th 2011 at 1:17:02 PM

[up] Pretty good. Going through the link, fairly sure it's from the Pathfinder Rpg. The Pathfinder trope page confirms it with an entry about her under Knife Nut.

edited 13th Sep '11 1:19:28 PM by Zikiel

Bluesunnyday Big Scientist from The Blue Lagoon Since: Apr, 2011
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#6: Sep 13th 2011 at 1:25:42 PM

I think that works.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#9: Sep 13th 2011 at 2:44:25 PM

I'd like to point out that it's not really about the person, nor is it about "lots of knives". It's about knives being scary weapons in their own right. With that in mind, I'd like to suggest this one:

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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Bluesunnyday Big Scientist from The Blue Lagoon Since: Apr, 2011
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#11: Sep 13th 2011 at 4:18:56 PM

Oh WOW. That's pretty cool too.

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#12: Sep 13th 2011 at 8:18:33 PM

[up][up][up] Niiiiiice. For anyone interested, that's the Corinthian from The Sandman.

edited 13th Sep '11 8:19:21 PM by Willbyr

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#13: Sep 13th 2011 at 8:44:06 PM

More of the page is here. just FYI. Terrifying, even without context. Nightmare-inducing with it.

edited 13th Sep '11 8:45:34 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
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#14: Sep 13th 2011 at 8:51:28 PM

[up] Oh yeah, that entire issue was concentrated HONF.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#15: Sep 13th 2011 at 8:57:07 PM

That's the first issue of Sandman I ever read. <shudder>

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#16: Sep 14th 2011 at 2:52:12 AM

I like the picture. Very creepy, very scary, very cool. I think it excellently gives focus to both knife and nut aspect of this trope. I approve the change.


In a less related note...

Just to give you the context, those three guys? They are all killers/collectors, with the guy on the left named the Doctor who collects skins (if my memory serves me right, he made a tie with some), one on the right named the Butcher who collects organs, and the guy who holds the knife, the Corinthean, collects eyes.

"We're going to take turns"

There Is No Kill Like An Overkill meets Cruel and Unusual Death, much?

Needless to say, that is my favorite comic issue of all time.

edited 14th Sep '11 3:04:56 AM by dRoy

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#17: Sep 14th 2011 at 3:53:28 AM

The Pathfinder Rogue is too much knife and not enough nut. The Sandman is plenty of nut, but not much on knife (although I do like it).

How about a nice fusion of the two: It's also got a kind of Our Knives Are Different kind of thing going for it. :)

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#18: Sep 14th 2011 at 3:59:59 AM

The knife is the most focused thing in that panel with bloody shiny spark, how much more empathis do you need?

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#19: Sep 14th 2011 at 6:24:27 AM

The trope is "knives as weapons are scary". It's not "this guy has a lot of knives" Which means the name probably needs to be looked at, because it really sounds like it's about the person.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Catalogue A pocketful of saudade. from where the good times are Since: Sep, 2009
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#20: Sep 14th 2011 at 6:24:58 AM

I say the face is more noticeable, but it's sufficiently clear and Machete's not good enough to dethrone it.

However. What's the precise definition of the trope anyway? Seems like the description is trying to say "knife as a preferred weapon of choice." Is it "knife presented as a deadly weapon"?

(EDIT: Ninja'd.)

edited 14th Sep '11 6:28:20 AM by Catalogue

The words above are to be read as if they are narrated by Morgan Freeman.
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#21: Sep 14th 2011 at 6:28:33 AM

The Corinthian pic highlights the second part of the definition on the page about as well as it can be highlighted.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#22: Sep 14th 2011 at 6:35:58 AM

Here's the trope definition. I've bolded the important parts:

"There are two things about knives that make them special in movies and television. First, they are Bad Ass, since there is nothing more humiliating than being beaten with a blade shorter than your palm. Second, they are scary, as a single glimmer from its profile in Ax-Crazy hands has been known to launch a thousand screams of horror (that and the possibility that they're more painful than any gunshot will ever be). And sometimes, it is both.

Finally, they're generally easier to obtain and own legally than guns.

Throwing knives are also a very popular ranged weapon in fiction, despite not being very well suited for combat in real life. (It's very hard to get them to hit point-first when aiming at a moving target.)

Subtrope of Weapon Of Choice. "

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Catalogue A pocketful of saudade. from where the good times are Since: Sep, 2009
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#23: Sep 14th 2011 at 6:54:10 AM

So in short it's when a knife is used over other weapons (whether for an occasion or as a regular gear) to brutal effect. Yeah, well, I can see if people mistake the trope. "Knife Nut" without context just means a character who likes knives, including a chef with a vast arsenal of chopping instruments.

By the way, would such chef be an example? A Played With instance?

EDIT: Sorry if I seem out of topic; I think it's related to our priorities in picking an image from the candidates.

edited 14th Sep '11 6:55:50 AM by Catalogue

The words above are to be read as if they are narrated by Morgan Freeman.
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#24: Sep 14th 2011 at 7:01:25 AM

It's "Knives are badass and/or scary". It doesn't have to be "used over another weapon" It doesn't have to be "to brutal effect."

Weapon Of Choice is "Certain personality and character types tend to be strongly associated with particular weapons."

edited 14th Sep '11 7:02:03 AM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Catalogue A pocketful of saudade. from where the good times are Since: Sep, 2009
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#25: Sep 14th 2011 at 7:15:58 AM

Ah, I see. So, what kind of personality do people associate knives with? Is it, then, a prerequisite that the wielder has these personality traits? (Since it's a subtrope of Weapon Of Choice.)

edited 14th Sep '11 7:20:09 AM by Catalogue

The words above are to be read as if they are narrated by Morgan Freeman.

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