Holy crap.
I've read the article, I know the reference, and I still have no clue what the title means.
Infinite Tree: an experimental story
I agree Not A Trope. It's mostly a Real Life section which is a bad sign. The fictional examples are at the bottom, few in number and low in quality. The NCIS example mixed in a slab of Real Life stuff. The The Young Ones example isn't an example at all: Vyvyan is not a real scientist or doctor or even a serious student. The Iron Man example demonstrates the article's biggest problem: it's just a section of a Venn diagram between jobs and tastes in music. A character with technical skills has a certain taste in music — which probably has more to do with the director's choice of soundtrack than anything innate to the character.
edited 1st Sep '11 11:20:33 PM by Camacan
Agreed. Toss it.
Support cut.
I see the Awesomeness.
Now that I know what the hell the trope's ABOUT, I support the cut.
The title is because "Oi" is a subgenre of Punk. Apparently, they expect everyone to know that. Also, Not A Trope.
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Support a cut. We could make a similar page about almost any permutation of <profession or area of training> and <genre of music>
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World's Toughest Milkman
As a fan of both science and punk rock, I want to find some redeeming quality here, but I'm just not seeing it. The premise doesn't even make sense; punk was nihilist and, if anything, anti-future. Even among musical genres that sprang up in the late seventies and early eighties, New Wave synth rock was more clearly "modern".
—>"And there's no future, and England's dreaming!" — the Sex Pistols, "God Save the Queen"
Scientists Like Popular Music might be a valid trope: something used to show that scientists are regular folks, just like us, and combat the ivory tower stereotypes. But trying to argue that punk rock has a "special affinity" with science seems silly and probably easily falsifiable. (There's a nice scientific concept for ya!) :)
Despite a mild pang, vote to cut.
edited 1st Sep '11 2:54:54 PM by Xtifr
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.
And a happy new year.
I think it is a trope. It's trivia, sure, but we have plenty of tropes that are trivia. I vote against cutting it, and instead support moving it to the proper place and renaming it.
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World's Toughest Milkman
It's not a trope; it's People Sit On Chairs. Some people (including some scientists) like particular forms of music (including punk rock). There's nothing there that describes anything meaningful or worth describing. The blatant attempts to justify it amount little more than evidence that the person who wrote this desperately believes in Three Chords and the Truth (and somehow thinks that punk is still "modern" thirty years later).
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.
This is perhaps one of the most incomprehensible titles on this site not in a foreign language. And I agree it's not a trope. Cut this thing.
Whatever of Breath
I support a cut.
Sent to cutlist since we seem to be near-unanimous that it's not a trope.
By the way - does anyone know what this name even means? What does "oi" have to do with punks?
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Nezumi said, "The title is because "Oi" is a subgenre of Punk."
World's Toughest Milkman
Nezumi claimed it was a subgenre of punk above. I've never heard that, but Wikipedia seems to confirm it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oi!
edit: ninja'd
edited 1st Sep '11 6:57:49 PM by Xtifr
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The soundtrack to the (extraordinary) 1992 movie Romper Stomper staring a certain young actor called Russell Crowe has some good examples of the darker side of Oi.
edited 1st Sep '11 11:29:32 PM by Camacan
Grr. Why do cut tropes no longer display which pages have wicks to them? It makes it impossible to clean up the red links. How the hell am I going to do that now?
edited 3rd Sep '11 3:11:56 PM by Twentington
Reinstate it long enough to dissect it?
Whatever of Breath
Do a site search for "Scientific Progress Goes Oi" (without quotation marks, or with spaces)?
Very Manly Muppet
Reading this thread made me so curious, I had to look:
"Scientific Progress Goes Oi found in: 2 articles, excluding discussions."
That... wasn't much...
Actually a girl.
I don't even understand what this trope is supposed to be about.
Snowclone of a Calvin And Hobbes book which has nothing to do with music. I have no idea how the hell "oi" fits into the trope. Rename ASAP.