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gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#1: Aug 23rd 2011 at 6:52:33 AM

1.) What happens court-wise if a child rapes an adult? Does the child get punished in any way? Or does the adult get sentenced for statutory rape?

2.) If a woman rapes a man with the intent of getting pregnant, would the victim have to pay money to support the child?

edited 23rd Aug '11 6:52:59 AM by gingerninja666

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#2: Aug 23rd 2011 at 7:58:47 AM

1.) What happens court-wise if a child rapes an adult? Does the child get punished in any way? Or does the adult get sentenced for statutory rape?

2.) If a woman rapes a man with the intent of getting pregnant, would the victim have to pay money to support the child?

It'd probably depend on how old the "child' was and whether they were tried as an adult- a 12 year old's court case would be very different than a 17 year old's. And of course, they'd have to prove it was rape, and that it was, in fact, the underage one doing the raping.

As for the second one, I want to say a regular around here mentioned a case in which a babysitter raped a 12 year old and got pregnant, and he did, in fact, have to pay child support, but that's Citation Needed.

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#3: Aug 23rd 2011 at 8:03:53 AM

On the first, I would say the question is too general. There are a lot of variable is something like that.

On the second, I'm inclined to say no. Because that would be punishing the victim.

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#4: Aug 23rd 2011 at 8:05:54 AM

Not sure about the first, but the second - unfortunately, yes. This one finds it weird and unjust, but as far as this one was told, the idea of child support is to ensure the wellbeing of child, no matter the circumstances of it's birth.

Again, this one finds it unjust, as man has no responsibility towards child he was not willing to father. As been said above, it is indeed punishing the victim. But courts seem to think differently.

edited 23rd Aug '11 8:06:53 AM by Beholderess

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#5: Aug 23rd 2011 at 8:16:53 AM

If the woman is convicted of rape, though, she will likely be in jail. And the child would either be in the care of relatives or a ward of the state.

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#6: Aug 23rd 2011 at 8:19:12 AM

Hmm, do wards of state receive child support if their parents are known and alive? This one honestly does not know.

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#7: Aug 23rd 2011 at 8:35:01 AM

What happens court-wise if a child rapes an adult? Does the child get punished in any way? Or does the adult get sentenced for statutory rape? - gingerninja
Legally, I don't think this would ever go to court. I don't think it would be possible to get a conviction, because your average person* would not believe that a child could force an adult to do anything.disclaimer

If a woman rapes a man with the intent of getting pregnant, would the victim have to pay money to support the child? - gingerninja
Thanks to the RL effects of tropes like Rape Is OK When Its Female On Male and Its Not Rape If You Enjoyed It, it's virtually impossible to get a conviction for such a thing, and absent a conviction, yes, he would. This has come up in court cases, too. With a conviction, the child would either be in foster care, or cared for by the father, or cared for by another relative of the mother. In the third case, at least, he would probably still have to pay child support; in the second he is child support, and I have no idea how child support works with the foster care system.

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#8: Aug 23rd 2011 at 8:46:40 AM

In regards to your second question OP, yes they are.

edited 23rd Aug '11 8:47:06 AM by joeyjojo

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#9: Aug 23rd 2011 at 9:53:42 AM

The first question: Yes, they can be prosecuted. Some jurisdictions would try them as an adult.

Second question: The father would be obliged to pay child support, as the intent is to ensure the welfare of the child, without regard to how he came into the world.

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#10: Aug 23rd 2011 at 11:37:43 AM

1) Yes. In Germany, where I currently reside, you can be persecuted by the law once you become 14.

2) You Fail Biology Forever.

edited 23rd Aug '11 11:39:39 AM by AdeptusAlpharius

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#11: Aug 23rd 2011 at 11:57:54 AM

To the second one, I can see why it's like that. It's not exactly the child's fault of how he or she was conceived. Why should we punish the child for the sins of the parents? And we couldn't exactly force the woman to have an abortion, either...

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#12: Aug 23rd 2011 at 12:12:27 PM

^^ Why do you say You Fail Biology Forever? Do you think that female-on-male rape can't result in a pregnancy?

edited 23rd Aug '11 12:13:25 PM by Madrugada

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#13: Aug 23rd 2011 at 1:25:08 PM

I'm assuming that the second (and in most cases, the first) example would be at gunpoint or something, because it'd probably be difficult to pull them off otherwise.

I'm not a lawyer so I'd have to ask, aren't cases like this the reason we have a jury?

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#14: Aug 23rd 2011 at 1:39:50 PM

Forcing a man to fuck a woman isn't so much harder than the other way around. In terms of forced impregnation the only real complication is you actually have to force an orgasm, but once they're powerless, and a woman who is a trained fighter can overpower the majority of men that aren't, that is just a matter of time.

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#15: Aug 23rd 2011 at 2:08:26 PM

1: Define child. 11 and under cannot be charged for crimes, 12-18 normally get lighter sentences.

2: sadly, yes. As stated above there was a case and the person does have to pay child support. Odds are that the child will be removed from custody since rapists make poor parents but if not it fucking sucks and should be changed.

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#16: Aug 23rd 2011 at 2:12:44 PM

sadly a man's consent fatherhood is not seen as important. There are cases of men having they semen outright stole from doctor's offices and still having to foot the bill to the child born.

edited 23rd Aug '11 2:13:48 PM by joeyjojo

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gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#17: Aug 23rd 2011 at 2:33:27 PM

When I said a child, I was thinking like 12 or under, and I imagined it being done by chaining the man (or woman) to a bed

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#18: Aug 23rd 2011 at 2:38:08 PM

Your average adult is stronger than a 12 year old. They'd need a weapon and intent to use it.

And at that point, they would be an complete sociopath, and I wouldn't think twice about throwing them in a padded cell and disposing of the key...

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#19: Aug 23rd 2011 at 2:41:24 PM

[up] Sleepers, or Rohypnol. That´s what I was thinking.

Hey, children aren´t as innocent as we make them out to be. I think a rapist who´s a child should be treated just as a rapist who´s an adult would be

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#20: Aug 23rd 2011 at 2:43:47 PM

Well, I mean, yeah, I agree with you. But it would be really hard to prove and unlikely that the adult would report it, for fear of the social impact and/or the police not believing them and turning on them for "statutory rape."

If you could prove it, though, I'd treat the little prick just like a normal rapist. Just... creepier... if that's even possible...

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#21: Aug 23rd 2011 at 2:45:51 PM

Forcing a man to fuck a woman isn't so much harder than the other way around. In terms of forced impregnation the only real complication is you actually have to force an orgasm, but once they're powerless, and a woman who is a trained fighter can overpower the majority of men that aren't, that is just a matter of time.

If she's using that kind of force, there's also another obstacle.

edited 23rd Aug '11 2:46:01 PM by Vellup

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gingerninja666 SCH-NEIGH-ZEL from Aboard The Damocles Since: Aug, 2009
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#23: Aug 23rd 2011 at 2:50:42 PM

[up][up][up] Why creepier? just curious. Is it because that type of person is so incredibly rare?

edited 23rd Aug '11 2:50:58 PM by gingerninja666

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#24: Aug 23rd 2011 at 2:53:09 PM

6[up] not necessarily, someone physically or mentally handicapped might not be able to fight back.

EDIT; I should really refresh before replying.

edited 23rd Aug '11 2:55:15 PM by thatguythere47

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#25: Aug 23rd 2011 at 2:54:12 PM

Why creepier? just curious. Is it because that type of person is so incredibly rare?

Because it's a kid.

[up] Yeah, I thought of that. It would be just as bad, though, and probably easier to prove...

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