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hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#51: Sep 16th 2011 at 9:37:21 AM

Then Mister Mac Guffin handles talking Mac Guffins just fine and is distinct from Egg Mac Guffins.

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CommanderPanda Since: Dec, 1969
#52: Sep 16th 2011 at 11:55:27 AM

Mister Mac Guffin isn't that bad. A good way to show that it fills the roles of MacGuffin and character.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#53: Sep 16th 2011 at 12:02:11 PM

It's very gendered though. Especially when we have MacGuffin Girl.

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hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#54: Sep 16th 2011 at 1:54:10 PM

Meet the Mac Guffins

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#55: Sep 16th 2011 at 1:56:56 PM

Sounds like a sitcom. Not a trope.

edited 16th Sep '11 1:57:20 PM by shimaspawn

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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#56: Sep 16th 2011 at 11:11:28 PM

Might as well go with Mac Guffin Character.

edited 16th Sep '11 11:11:57 PM by NoirGrimoir

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CommanderPanda Since: Dec, 1969
#57: Sep 17th 2011 at 4:28:42 AM

^ Descriptive, clear. I could get behind Mac Guffin Character.

Pig_catapult Hurler of Swine from Knee-deep in Nightmare Fuel Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#58: Sep 29th 2011 at 12:18:58 PM

I agree with "Mac Guffin Character". As for the MacGuffin Girl trope. . . MacGuffin in Girl's Clothing, maybe? Or something about it wearing a "human suit". Gets the idea across that it's not really a girl, but that it looks like one.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#60: Sep 29th 2011 at 4:31:47 PM

Eh, that's not a very good snowclone... maybe something like Humanized Mac Guffin?

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iphobos Disagree, but look it up from Somewhere's Ville Since: Aug, 2011
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#61: Oct 3rd 2011 at 1:47:24 PM

It seems that the only difference is that one of the tropes has the macguffin suddenly turn into a living thing, and the other has always been human. Since this "MacGuffin Girl" trope really could function without the object specifically becoming a girl, then all this trope needs is a simple rename and some minor re-writing. Once this is solved (which will take anywhere between 20minutes and a week depending on how many people insist that this trope that this trope only applies to women and that any other example is not noteworthy, or says that it would flood the page with new examples) we can close this shop and get to the other 1085 posts and hopefully bring it done until we actually can fix something relevant.

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iphobos Disagree, but look it up from Somewhere's Ville Since: Aug, 2011
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#62: Oct 3rd 2011 at 1:50:18 PM

How about Livened Macguffin, it could apply to any previously thought inanimate Macguffin suddenly living, or Suddenly Animated Macguffin?

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#63: Nov 22nd 2011 at 7:21:08 PM

Leading option looks clear. Is it safe to call?

And how do we establish its relation (if any) to MacGuffin Girl? MacGuffin Girl is where the MacGuffin is not normally a living being but was made one temporarily.

edited 22nd Nov '11 7:21:48 PM by Stratadrake

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#64: Nov 22nd 2011 at 8:32:21 PM

MacGuffin Girl involves a non-living MacGuffin becoming a Living MacGuffin; since it always results in a Living MacGuffin by definition, that makes it a Sub-Trope.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#65: Nov 22nd 2011 at 11:12:16 PM

Except for the plot point that the qualities that the MacGuffin Girl was a MacGuffin for are only present in her non-living form ... although she's still highly sought after by everyone solely because of who she is ... ah, screw it.

edited 22nd Nov '11 11:12:28 PM by Stratadrake

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Myra Since: Oct, 2011
#66: Jan 7th 2012 at 5:10:03 AM

I think it's safe to say we have a consensus. Call it?

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#67: Jan 7th 2012 at 6:34:53 AM

Crowner has been open since August. Calling it with a final tally of +23 (yeas:25 nays:2) 12.50 : 1 in favor of "Make Living Mac Guffin a Super Trope for any case where the Mac Guffin, for whatever reason, is a living being." All other options ended with negative totals.

Time to start the tedious part. Starring the thread. Description needs to be rewritten, wicks and examples need to be sorted onto the appropriate subtrope pages.

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#68: Jan 7th 2012 at 11:11:37 AM

Do we do anything with the old definition of Living MacGuffin (a person of MacGuffin-like importance) ?

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#69: Mar 1st 2012 at 7:07:06 PM

Was anything done with this?

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TBeholder Our future is a madhouse from chthonic safety Since: Jan, 2001
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#70: Mar 3rd 2012 at 2:55:01 PM

[up][up] Simple - it's most of the rest not counting the subtrope. Or there will be Missing Supertrope anyway. If there's a good split for another subtrope, it can be YKTTW-d later.

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#71: Apr 3rd 2012 at 6:37:32 AM

Bumping. This still needs to be rewritten into a supertrope and the wicks corrected if they go to the subtropes.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#72: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:05:09 AM

Hate to do it, but if no one is going to do this, it gets the lock.

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