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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#25276: Jan 26th 2015 at 12:48:05 PM

He was technically both in the beginning and end. Also, there was Batroc in Captain America 2.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#25277: Jan 26th 2015 at 12:48:24 PM

Yeah but the guy in the Rhino suit was a throwaway baddie at the very beginning.

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edited 26th Jan '15 12:48:37 PM by MousaThe14

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#25279: Jan 26th 2015 at 1:26:25 PM

There are actually quite a few villains still alive...Abnomination, General Ross, Justin Hammer, Loki, Red Skull, the Mandarin, Nebula, Baron von Stucker, Batrock, Crossbones plus a few which could be reconned into having survived after all, like Raz (who might have escaped after all) or Zola (they could always claim that he umploaded himself to another computer). I don't think that they will use one of the Ao S villains, though. In general, I think that there are few villains which are irreplacable, and the ones who are are not necessarily the same as in the comics. Some of them become more (Loki) some of them less interesting.

edited 26th Jan '15 1:26:50 PM by Swanpride

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#25280: Jan 26th 2015 at 2:00:37 PM

Personally, I really, really, really want to see The Living Laser. Though I suppose he would require more explanation than a guy with another armored suit.

A science experiment gone wrong or an Inhuman.

CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
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#25281: Jan 26th 2015 at 2:03:51 PM

I'm in favor of having the Black Knight Nathan Garrett show up in a Masters of Evil film, with his good-guy nephew Dane having a presence in the film as well. Then when the Masters are defeated that leaves Dane the option of taking up the gear and becoming the heroic Black Knight.

File that under "fun but unlikely", I guess.

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#25282: Jan 26th 2015 at 2:11:13 PM

Hey, Rocket Raccoon was unlikely only a few years ago. Don't stop believin'.

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#25283: Jan 26th 2015 at 2:17:16 PM

Batroc would probably leap at the opportunity to show up again.

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#25284: Jan 26th 2015 at 2:25:05 PM

[up]*4: I mean that unlike any of the armored villains, who use tech we've already seen extensively and understand as part of the universe, you would have to dedicate some of the plot to how his powers work due to it being untrodden ground for the MCU thus far.

[up]*5: How many of those would be willing or able to join a Masters of Evil type team, however?

edited 26th Jan '15 2:26:06 PM by KnownUnknown

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#25285: Jan 26th 2015 at 2:30:09 PM

[up][up]"Who invited the French guy?"

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#25286: Jan 26th 2015 at 4:05:30 PM

[up][up][up]I already made that joke (and no one caught it then, either).

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#25287: Jan 26th 2015 at 5:32:55 PM

I noticed you said "jump" a few pages ago, but Batroc doesn't jump, he leaps.

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#25288: Jan 26th 2015 at 6:36:10 PM

@Swanpride, Jury's still out on the Skull though, or I would've mentioned him.

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#25289: Jan 26th 2015 at 8:12:04 PM

I'd still like to see a Batman Cold Open in Ragnarok with Thor battling the Absorbing Man. It'd be a neat nod to Creel's origin in the comics as a Thor villain.

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#25290: Jan 26th 2015 at 9:47:50 PM

The Absorbing Man just isn't the Absorbing Man until he gets a scene where he absorbs Mjolnir.

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#25291: Jan 26th 2015 at 9:53:56 PM

So if that happens, does he become immobile because he is unworthy to lift himself?

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#25292: Jan 26th 2015 at 10:06:45 PM

From what I gather, no, because he'd absorb the material of Mjolnir. Mjolnir can't be wielded by the unworthy because of the spell placed upon it, not because of the steel it is made.

Though Earth's Mightiest Heroes had a (very memorable) scene where Absorbing Man absorbs the material of Mjolnir and Thor exploits him by wielding the Asborbing Man via the Mjolnir.

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#25293: Jan 27th 2015 at 6:59:59 AM

Right. Absorbing the hammer just makes him Uru, the magical equivalent of adamantium.

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MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#25294: Jan 27th 2015 at 7:53:00 AM

Which seems cool in theory but it seems rather obvious that there'd be a "Thor can control you too" loophole.

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#25296: Jan 27th 2015 at 8:27:48 AM

Also from EMH.

  • ABSORBING MAN: *becomes rock* Idiot monster! I can absorb anything! Even rock!
  • HULK: *breaks off half the Absorbing Man's torso* Hulk smash rock, Einstein.

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#25297: Jan 27th 2015 at 8:32:47 AM

Though I did like when he absorbed the Cosmic Cube and began retcon punching everything.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#25298: Jan 27th 2015 at 8:33:52 AM

God, he was at his dumbest at that one moment. Like "Wait, seriously, you think being rock is going to make you tougher than metal?"

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#25299: Jan 27th 2015 at 9:34:01 AM

Absorbing Man could be nice in a movie because they'd have the budget to do his Sizeshifter trick.

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#25300: Jan 27th 2015 at 10:30:18 AM

They mention in Avengers Academy that Creel would be a lot more dangerous if he were smart enough to use his powers effectively.

Cue Fear Itself.

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