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dotchan Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Aug 1st 2011 at 1:23:17 PM

Reading the trope description of Polyamory and examples, this trope seems to be a duplicate of Tenchi Solution.

Speaking of which, Tenchi Solution actually covers three variants: 1) No choice is made, but the harem continues. 2) A choice is made, he picks them all, 3) the hero leaves the harem. The third choice has very few or no examples at all and could use some example pimping.

edited 1st Aug '11 1:23:38 PM by dotchan

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#2: Aug 1st 2011 at 1:29:18 PM

Polyamory is a much more general topic and if it's being shoehorned to match Tenchi Solution, there's a problem.

Polyamory = More than two adults are involved in a consensual sexual relationship.

Tenchi Solution = A Love Triangle or Love Dodecahedron is resolved by creating a Polyamory.

edited 1st Aug '11 1:30:55 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#3: Aug 1st 2011 at 1:51:01 PM

Fixed the article link for you. You don't need the {{'s when linking it in the title.

Oh, and what Fighteer pretty much said.

edited 1st Aug '11 1:52:07 PM by chihuahua0

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#4: Aug 1st 2011 at 2:05:48 PM

Also, Polyamory doesn't need a harem. If four people are in a stable relationship all with each other, then it's not a harem. It's just Polyamory.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#5: Aug 1st 2011 at 2:09:06 PM

Why is Tenchi Solution just one trope, anyway? Shouldn't it be split at least into protagonist choosing them all and protagonist either never making a decision or rejecting the harem outright? The way I see it used is almost always for the former.

edited 1st Aug '11 2:09:24 PM by Arha

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Lost in Space
#6: Aug 1st 2011 at 2:11:20 PM

Also, a harem show doesn't technically become a polyamory until/unless the focus of the harem actually starts having sex with them. If he's a Chaste Hero with an Unwanted Harem, the focus is typically on the UST rather than the consummation, which if it occurs at all usually ends the series.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
dotchan Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Aug 2nd 2011 at 3:23:38 PM

So Tenchi Solution is an Ending Trope, while Polyamory is an in-series trope?

If so, Polyamory needs some massive example paring.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#8: Aug 2nd 2011 at 3:49:48 PM

Polyamory is a Super-Trope encompassing a variety of concepts. Examples more properly belonging on other tropes like OT3 and Tenchi Solution should be moved there.

I haven't even begun to look at them so I can't help at the moment.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#9: Aug 3rd 2011 at 5:09:11 PM

Also, the title Tenchi Solution pretty much relegates it to the anime ghetto. I pulled out the examples that were just about polyamory.

edited 3rd Aug '11 5:18:49 PM by FastEddie

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ChaoticNovelist Since: Jun, 2010
#10: Aug 5th 2011 at 2:56:32 PM

[up] [up] [up] I agree completely. Tenchi Solution is an Ending Trope. If the series continues beyond the resolution provided by the Tenchi Solution, then it slids into Polyamory (or just OT3 if only three people are involved)

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#11: Aug 5th 2011 at 2:59:31 PM

[up][up] I would consider renaming Tenchi Solution to Marry Them All or some such, but that would be a different thread.

SWEET ZOMBIE JESUS. I did not know that Marry Them All was a redirect before I typed that, I swear. [lol]

edited 5th Aug '11 3:00:04 PM by Fighteer

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SakurazakiSetsuna Together Forever... Since: Jun, 2010
Together Forever...
#12: Aug 5th 2011 at 3:00:51 PM

Tenchi Solution needs to be change if, for no other reason, Tenchi doesn't take that solution.

One of his relatives does though, interestingly.

Marry Them All sounds good though!

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#13: Aug 5th 2011 at 3:01:39 PM

Yeah, Tenchi Solution had a huge involved rename/redirect discussion sometime last year.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#14: Aug 5th 2011 at 3:06:26 PM

Fighteer: The problem is that Tenchi Solution encompasses another trope where no choice is made at all or the choice is rejected and the situation is walked away from. Thus, Marry Them All might be how we use it, but technically it's broader than that. Which is why I recommended we split it.

Oh, and technically Tenchi does marry them all eventually, it just doesn't happen in the series proper.

edited 5th Aug '11 3:07:04 PM by Arha

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#15: Aug 5th 2011 at 3:14:29 PM

Yeah, no. If the Tenchi series ("proper") are not an example, then this needs a rename, or a swap with its redirect. Marry Them All sounds good to me.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#16: Aug 5th 2011 at 3:16:06 PM

Well, the trope should probably be split and give both tropes their own names at that time. But isn't that a matter for a separate thread?

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#17: Aug 5th 2011 at 3:22:04 PM

Yes.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#18: Aug 5th 2011 at 3:37:25 PM

Okay, thread up. If anyone has anything more to say about polyamory feel free to continue with that now that the derail has been moved.

RandomChaos No Dragon Power from My own little world Since: Oct, 2011
No Dragon Power
#19: Sep 18th 2011 at 7:17:53 AM

A Kim Possible Fan Fic that should be listed http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3154326/1/

With the power of a dragon I can make up for my inability to spill.
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