Pony Fanfiction Thread

A chastisement by the Head of State. That's about as scathing as scathing gets. Celestia's lucky Twilight didn't go Horus on her.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

The CMC were socially ostracized as a result of the Gabby Gums incident. I think that's a pretty serious consequence of their actions.

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Who was there in her roll as Twi's teacher and mentor. Not as high Ruler of Equestria.

When Ditzy wants to donate to help rebuild Town Hall, and Constable Peeler points out that the Mayor legally can't accept her donation, because the Royal Disaster Relief Fund already payed for it.

I didn't write any of that.

@Handle: Considering that she got off without any actual consequence (i.e. no jail time, no fines, no community service, etc.) that's pretty light. All she really got was a "don't do that again".

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The more I hear "the Four" mentioned the more I think of With Strings Attached. Pretty sure these characters are very different, though.

Also, I have a draft of chapter 3 of my story Fallout: Equestria - The Least Of Us.

You know. The story that has a protagonist who's a dick, which is a recursive fanfic of a story I criticized for having a dick protagonist.

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Geeze, here's what I get for trying to work, heh. So a bit late now, but:

They used a Rape Potion Mickey, on their teacher and big brother, And That's Terrible.

They immediatly recognized it was wrong and ran themselves ragged for hours trying to solve the problem, which they did without anyone ever being serious affected. Except for that one pony whose house got moved.

They published Malicious Libel for the fun and profit of their editor.

For which they were ostracised and kind of abused, and they then published their own secrets anyways to try and make it up to ponies.

They sabotaged a giant cart, and the consequences could have been disastrous.

This one is more bad, yeah. I did say most of the time. The only real lessening factor I can provide is that it didn't, and they clearly didn't mean for things to go as bad as it did and they were apologetic for it immediately afterwards?

They endangered a theatre audience with badly-done carpentry.

Really, they were more at risk than anyone in the audience. And they did suffer for it, since it all kinda fell on them.

See the thing is, you don't always need to punish someone when they do something wrong. Especially when they're kids. Sometimes, the act of screwing up is punishment in and of itself. As in the first case, trying to solve the problem they caused caused them way more stress than any grounding or shouting could. Even in the events that isn't the case something bad usually happens to them, if only cosmically.

Basically, I think whoever is in charge of their punishment recognizes that they learned their lesson and underwent some stress in doing so, so what's the point in punishing them further? Punishment should be for the sake of rehabilitation and progression rather than vengeance. When you punish a child it's so that they recognize their actions were bad, or at the very least so they'll know it's more trouble than it's worth. That clearly wasn't necessary in these cases.

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I do believe 'getting scolded by Celestia' counts as a very, very huge deal, and one of the worst 'consequences' possible, if not The Worst Possible Thing. It's certainly worse than death, maiming, or imprisonment. Or being arrested by the local cops. The only worse thing would be being condemned by her, or worse, having to fight her.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

To Twilight, maybe. but only because of how much she loves Tia and wants her approval. not because she's 'the princess' but, just because she's a figure Twi looks up to.

I think the real problem with the CMC is that all their stupid behavior could be avoided if they went straight to an adult instead of trying a stupid plan every single time. Granted, this is partly truth in television—lots of kids would do the same thing (why, I'm the one who added that paragraph to the Adults Are Useless page). But they also have Aesop Amnesia, which makes their Poor Communication Kills less forgivable each time it happens. Hell, they learn it in their very first subplot in "Stare Master". Then they actively ignore their lesson in their next episode ("Show Stoppers") and so on. Their inertia is what makes me hate them so much. It's doubly problematic since their individual arcs have the same problem (and sometimes the two overlap and they fail to learn a lesson twice). Being cute doesn't make up for being Too Dumb to Live.

Yet she goes on to use magic recklessly and without thinking again a few episodes later (Its About Time), so obviously the "I'm disappointed in you, don't do it again" line was not severe enough to actually teach her anything.

edited 16th Sep '14 3:57:24 PM by CleverPun

"The only way to truly waste an idea is to shove it where it doesn't belong."

But she didn't brain wash anypony.

And, The CMC do learn and are growing just, slowly.

Just because the circumstances were less dangerous and severe doesn't mean that her actions were any less stupid. Using a powerful, single-use spell on a whim requires the same sort of recklessness and faulty logic that casting a brainwashing spell does.

"The only way to truly waste an idea is to shove it where it doesn't belong."

Do you guys ever think we put, like, a helluva lot more thought into these thing than the people who actually write for the show.

No, to keep the entire Space time continuum from unraveling via her not casting it, thus not fulfilling the Stable Time Loop and causing giant demonic time bat creatures to eat Equestria.

Also, that was after several days of sleep deprivation and a concussion. Not exactly the best mental state.

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edited 16th Sep '14 4:29:29 PM by Seraphem

Yeah, on an individual level, the CMC plots are believable, but on the macro scale, it's really kinda iffy. Any one scenario on its own is fine; I could believe that some kids might get up to that stuff. The problem is that it's the same kids every time. I really think that they need to get their C Ms already and develop already. It even worse because the rest of the cast is actually getting some lessons that stick.

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It's not that the writers don't put thought into it—if you listen to one of their panels or whatever they put in quite a lot. But writing by committee, for a corporation, in order to sell toys is obviously going create some different artistic priorities

Except she didn't know that, she just cast it because she though it would be a good idea and put absolutely zero thought into the consequences.

Pretty much, although the rest of the cast has some problems with repeat lessons as well. One of the reasons I stopped watching the show was because of how forced some of the lessons became.

edited 16th Sep '14 5:29:25 PM by CleverPun

"The only way to truly waste an idea is to shove it where it doesn't belong."

But regardless of why, she HAD to cast it. No way around that happening.

The Stable Time Loop doesn't make her decision to cast it was any less idiotic

edited 16th Sep '14 6:51:00 PM by CleverPun

"The only way to truly waste an idea is to shove it where it doesn't belong."

It makes it necessary and something that would happen no matter what.

Also as above, several days of no REM sleep, when you can be considered legally insane after forty eight hours without it. On top of a concussion.

edited 16th Sep '14 7:32:29 PM by Seraphem

Sigh. I'd rather not argue in circles with you. We'll have to agree to disagree.

edited 16th Sep '14 8:09:51 PM by CleverPun

"The only way to truly waste an idea is to shove it where it doesn't belong."

Twilight: Um, Princess Celestia, why are you inside a giant tortilla?
Celestia: Actually, it's a pita.

I didn't write any of that.

And then Luna appears, wearing a giant croissant.

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Who's this Kurowa-san?

But it's really appropriate for Luna, the Croissant. Celestia on the other hand is more of a tortilla with potatoes and hot chili.

edited 16th Sep '14 8:43:09 PM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

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