Clarifying the definition: This Is For Emphasis Bitch

The precision is irrelevant here. It's not about that. It's about "bitch" being a verbal exclamation point.

It does, actually, Bitch. It means that the Precision F-Strike only applies in certain cases, and those do not always overlap with this trope's examples, Bitch. If the precision refers to moral guardians, then R-rated works do not overlap, Bitch. The trope comes from the Juggernaut;s one line, Bitch. I see it as mostly Gratuitous Cussing, albeit a specific form, Bitch. Even in this example, I'm doing mostly to prove the lack of Precision, Bitch. And I'm still not sure if it is separate from the Cluster F-Bomb, Bitch.

Besides, is this really limited to the one word, Fucker?

(Oh, and where's the swear jar? I need to drop my wallet off)

edited 8th Nov '11 9:49:27 AM by crazysamaritan

No, because as you are showing, these can be used a lot at once, which makes more a spread out cluster F bomb than just a precision strike.

And a post is not an article, so that pothole you made of Self-Demonstrating Article is a misuse.

Right... I thought we were still addressing post #17... That's why I was discussing precision f strike in the first place. Since you said the precision was not relevant, I gave up discussing it obliquely, and tried to make it as obvious as possible that the lack of precision in this trope could make it fall outside of Precision F-Strike territory.

What should I have potholed it to?

Why should it have been potholed at all?

To make it clear that I wasn't personally addressing you, but demonstrating my point with an example, while I was also explaining my point. So, the same purpose of the Self Demonstrating Articles.

Tropes are not points alone. A self demonstrating article is trope descriptions, not just a single word, in the description or elsewhere. Sorry if that's a bit pedantic, but it's so misused now.

But the use of This Is for Emphasis, Bitch! is a single word. My point was the use of the trope outside of a precision f strike, so I wrote a post using it.

Don't apologize; I'm learning.

Okay, then. My point is a self demonstrating article cannot be. They are mutually exclusive.

As for this trope, another reason it's limited to "bitch" is that, as mentioned in the description, it's become a spoof of what it used to be, so it's now emphasis+Rule of Funny.

Discussion derailment, much? Let's drop the whole SDA potholing nonsense and actually discuss the topic at hand.

edited 8th Nov '11 4:04:29 PM by Insignificant

and the rule of funny is what moved this trope into discredited status, right?

We're already doing that.

Pretty much that. It's not a dead horse trope yet, but it's played for laughs likely more often than straight.

edited 8th Nov '11 4:36:39 PM by DragonQuestZ

I'm becoming more inclined to think that this page could be completely summarized as People Calling Other People 'Bitch'.

Can't we at least expand this to cover instances of characters using the word "asshole" for "emphasis", too? I can think of, at least, two Arnold Schwarzenegger films providing examples; in fact, any time Arnie ends a sentence with a cuss, it carries this trope's exact spirit. Would we need to make a new supertrope for examples with all other foul-mouthed terms for people tack on the end of sentences for Rated-R "emphasis" (douchebag, fuckwad, fucker, mother fucker, shithead, cunt, etc.)?

edited 10th Feb '12 6:49:01 PM by SeanMurrayI

I would rather expand the trope, and note that this is an undead horse trope, rather than a discredited trope.

I would say it's a Dead Horse Trope, since straight uses are almost unheard of.

Yippie-ki-ay, motherfucker.

As it stands, not an example. Also not played for laughs.

And is covered in Quote Swear Unquote anyway.

you know the image for that trope is this one,right ?

hmm...is it just me, or is Quote Swear Unquote a subtrope of This Is for Emphasis, Bitch!? I mean, it's just This Is for Emphasis, Bitch! applied to a catchphrase/slogan, right?

edited 16th Feb '12 1:46:50 PM by Blissey1

It said they can overlap. But the picture overlaps, not the Die Hard line.

The original context of the line in Die Hard was for McClane to speak like a cowboy (in response to the question from Hans Gruber, "Do you really think you have a chance against us, Mr. Cowboy?"), hence adding "mother fucker" after the phrase "yippie-ki-yay".

Either way, I still see little reason why This Is for Emphasis, Bitch! should be limited to one swear. What's the fundamental difference between calling someone a "bitch" or "fucker" or "mother fucker" or anything else, anyway? Ending a sentence by calling someone a 'bitch' doesn't seem very meaningful on its own, anyway.

edited 16th Feb '12 3:41:05 PM by SeanMurrayI

Okay, Eddie a while ago saw major Trope Decay, where any time a swear word ended a sentence, someone would claim it was an example.

That doesn't explain why "bitch" should be an exception to that. Again, what makes ending a sentence with "bitch" a trope while ending with any other type of foul-mouthed insult isn't?

Fundamentally, they're all the same.

edited 16th Feb '12 4:46:50 PM by SeanMurrayI

The point, especially the Played for Laughs form, is to treat "bitch" as a verbal exclamation point. Simply calling someone a bitch, or an asshole, or other such word, does not apply. Now we might have gotten to some kind of agreement before, but the problem arose before TRS, if I recall correctly.

I believe that this trope was launched back while Dave Chappelle's (?) meme "Sentence. Bitch!" was thriving. I do recall that there was much heated discussion at the time about whether it should be limited only to that exact format ("Sentence. Bitch!" only); whether it should include any expletive following a complete sentence ("Not my daughter, you bitch", from Aliens); or whether it should include any expletive used for emphasis at the end of an line ("Yippee-Ki-Ay, motherfucker!").