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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
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#1: Jun 2nd 2011 at 9:19:17 PM

I know real life cannot be separated into tropes but I wonder do we ina world of badass already? According to that trope, everyone including the dog knows some form fighting and kick ass but this isn't true in the real world or is it?

"Eratoeir is a Gangsta."
MadassAlex I am vexed! from the Middle Ages. Since: Jan, 2001
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#2: Jun 2nd 2011 at 9:28:46 PM

Depends where you are.

World of Badass probably applied more during the Medieval and Renaissance eras, though. Constant war and all that.

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drunkscriblerian Street Writing Man from Castle Geekhaven Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
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#3: Jun 2nd 2011 at 9:54:55 PM

@OP: I highly doubt it. Considering the way applied violence is viewed by most of the populace. If anything, we live in a World Of Weaksauce.

@Madass: I'd agree.

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Zersk o-o from Columbia District, BNA Since: May, 2010
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#4: Jun 2nd 2011 at 10:05:34 PM

Drunk: Maybe in the middle-class west. Mind you, the world is a big place.

edited 2nd Jun '11 10:06:33 PM by Zersk

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#5: Jun 2nd 2011 at 10:08:32 PM

@Zersk: yes, certainly some people live in isolated pockets of badassitude. But as a whole, the world is not very badass and aspiring to be less so. What do you think "civilization" means?

Example: the American West. Definite World of Badass potential there. Then, temperance leaguers and religious types came through. No more unrestricted discharge of firearms! No more saloons! No more whores!

Now look at the American West, folks...one long strip mall.

Civilization takes the "bad" out of "badass"...all that is left is "ass".

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Zersk o-o from Columbia District, BNA Since: May, 2010
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#6: Jun 2nd 2011 at 10:15:14 PM

Oh, there are still badass people, even here. Yah just have to look.

Like that dude in Vancouver who was waving a sword around in the middle of the city.

Even with civilization. As long as people exist, it will be there.

edited 2nd Jun '11 10:15:45 PM by Zersk

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#7: Jun 2nd 2011 at 10:17:51 PM

... is it time for me to gush about Frederick Jackson Turner, and then shoot it down?

MadassAlex I am vexed! from the Middle Ages. Since: Jan, 2001
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#8: Jun 2nd 2011 at 10:19:32 PM

^^ Waving a weapon around scared civilians isn't badass.

edited 2nd Jun '11 10:25:42 PM by MadassAlex

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#9: Jun 2nd 2011 at 10:19:48 PM

Let's set the existence-of-god issue aside for a later volume, and just stipulate that in some way, self-replicating organisms came into existence on this planet and immediately began trying to get rid of each other, either by spamming their environments with rough copies of themselves, or by more direct means which hardly need to be belabored. Most of them failed, and their genetic legacy was erased from the universe forever, but a few found some way to survive and to propagate. After about three billion years of this sometimes zany, frequently tedious fugue of carnality and carnage, Godfrey Waterhouse IV was born, in Murdo, South Dakota, to Blanche, the wife of a Congregational preacher named Bunyan Waterhouse. Like every other creature on the face of the earth, Godfrey was, by birthright, a stupendous badass, albeit in the somewhat narrow technical sense that he could trace his ancestry back up a long line of slightly less highly evolved stupendous badasses to that first self-replicating gizmo—which, given the number and variety of its descendants, might justifiably be described as the most stupendous badass of all time. Everyone and everything that wasn't a stupendous badass was dead.

Not actually relevant, but I don't care.

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Zersk o-o from Columbia District, BNA Since: May, 2010
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#10: Jun 2nd 2011 at 10:20:33 PM

Madass: Well, it was at the very least amusing.

I guess that wasn't the best example. But I could find something.

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MadassAlex I am vexed! from the Middle Ages. Since: Jan, 2001
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#11: Jun 2nd 2011 at 10:27:36 PM

Jack Churchill was badass. Using a sword and bow in an age of guns and defeating over fifty Nazi soldiers in his career? Holy fucksticks.

edited 2nd Jun '11 10:28:25 PM by MadassAlex

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#12: Jun 2nd 2011 at 10:29:15 PM

@Madass: He's also been dead for a while.

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MadassAlex I am vexed! from the Middle Ages. Since: Jan, 2001
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#13: Jun 2nd 2011 at 10:30:27 PM

That's true, but him being alive or dead isn't exactly the point.

The point is that a sword, a bow and enough balls > 50 Nazi soldiers.

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#14: Jun 3rd 2011 at 1:31:41 AM

If anything, we live in a World Of Weaksauce.

We live in a world of Weaksauce dreaming of being Badass.

Nyarly Das kann doch nicht sein! from Saksa Since: Feb, 2012
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#15: Jun 3rd 2011 at 3:22:41 AM

No, we don't live in a "World of Weaksauce". Which is a pity.

People aren't as awful as the internet makes them out to be.
Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#16: Jun 3rd 2011 at 4:12:23 AM

No, we clearly live in a Layered World with strong Sugar Bowl and World of Chaos undertones.

Badass is relative anyway. When everyone is able to punch mountains in half, the one who can only do that to big hills is a runt.

edited 3rd Jun '11 4:15:05 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
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#17: Jun 3rd 2011 at 4:25:20 AM

Civilization takes the "bad" out of "badass"...all that is left is "ass".
So you're a primitivist?

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
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#18: Jun 3rd 2011 at 7:07:50 AM

[up][up] You know that layered world sounds accurate to me, very of us puny mortals can actually attain badassery but it is all relative.

"Eratoeir is a Gangsta."
MadassAlex I am vexed! from the Middle Ages. Since: Jan, 2001
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#19: Jun 3rd 2011 at 8:13:26 AM

"Very few" of us, I expect you mean. Because that's how I'm interpreting it for my response:

I'm a firm believer in nurture over nature. Anyone can be a badass, it just takes practise. And perhaps a few rough experiences to come to terms with reality.

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juancarlos Faith in the self. Since: Mar, 2012
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#20: Jun 3rd 2011 at 8:16:26 AM

It is practice.

You may continue.

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MadassAlex I am vexed! from the Middle Ages. Since: Jan, 2001
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#21: Jun 3rd 2011 at 8:18:50 AM

Depends on which kind of English you're using.

The way I learned it, "practice" doesn't refer to training but the execution of skill. "Medical practice" is an example. "Practise" refers to the training of a skill for sake of refinement.

This could be wrong, but I am absolutely sure that both spellings are legitimate.

edited 3rd Jun '11 8:19:08 AM by MadassAlex

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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#22: Jun 3rd 2011 at 8:22:57 AM

It's kind of sad that a world where one reasonably expect not to be shot dead over pathetically small grievances is "weaksauce" to some people.

You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!
Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#23: Jun 3rd 2011 at 8:27:47 AM

Why would most people even want to be "badass", anyway? I dunno about you people, but the ability to rip the heart out of a rampaging polar bear would not be all that useful in my daily life.

If it came for free, well, it could be an interesting party trick, at least if rampaging polar bears were more common than they are in the sort of party I frequent; but if I can only learn to do that through twenty years of Training from Hell with an Old Master living in some secluded mountain... well, my time is frankly better spent otherwise.

edited 3rd Jun '11 8:29:23 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
Kraken Since: Jun, 2012
#24: Jun 3rd 2011 at 8:35:13 AM

I know real life cannot be separated into tropes...
But then why are you doing it still?

Carciofus Is that cake frosting? from Alpha Tucanae I Since: May, 2010
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#25: Jun 3rd 2011 at 8:37:54 AM

Because it's fun?

edited 3rd Jun '11 8:38:45 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.

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