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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#27: May 25th 2011 at 2:38:44 PM

[up] Unisex means something that works for either sex. Toilets are unisex. It's never used for people.

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#28: May 26th 2011 at 12:32:28 AM

Biologically Genderless?

Hmm. If I may play the dictionary card, some close pre-existing terms for this would be "asexual" or "sexless".

edited 26th May '11 12:39:59 AM by Stratadrake

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#30: May 26th 2011 at 7:08:29 AM

[up][up] Yes, those are the correct terms, but they're more commonly used these days for the sexual orientation of not being interested in sex.

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Micah from traveling the post-doc circuit Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#31: May 26th 2011 at 9:59:07 AM

[up]And, in fact, Asexuality is already being used for that.

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DoktorvonEurotrash Since: Jan, 2001
#32: May 26th 2011 at 10:19:58 AM

[up][up]Do people really use "sexless" to mean "asexual" (in the modern, orientation-related meaning), though?

Because I could see Sexless as a possible title for this trope otherwise.

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#33: May 26th 2011 at 10:27:51 AM

"Sexless" I used for people who are not getting any. Like Sexless Marriage and so on.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#34: May 26th 2011 at 10:34:16 AM

[up][up] Yes, yes they do. As Raso said, it basically just means you aren't getting any.

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#35: May 26th 2011 at 11:57:49 AM

No Biological Sex is accurate but seems boring to me. I still like Self Assigned Gender, or maybe Non Biological Gender (since their gender has nothing to do with their biology)?

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#36: May 26th 2011 at 12:07:09 PM

Self Assigned Gender make it sound like a real Gender Bender choosing to live as one sex.

IJBM on the face that Asexual is taken already... No Gender Race? Clone of One-Gender Race though.

Asexual Reproduction?

edited 26th May '11 12:08:35 PM by Raso

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#37: May 26th 2011 at 12:27:32 PM

Self Assigned Gender and Non Biological Gender sound like tropes about transexuals and neither of those have anything to do with that the trope is.

Asexual Reproduction doesn't work. Most of the examples are sterile and aren't reproducing at all. Besides, it sounds like a completely different trope. Like for how tribbles reproduce or parasprites.

edited 26th May '11 12:28:46 PM by shimaspawn

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#38: May 26th 2011 at 12:31:34 PM

Good point also probably should Ykttw Asexual Reproduction. That's easily a trope.

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LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#39: Jul 24th 2011 at 3:30:02 PM

There is now a single proposition rename crowner for this trope here. I am hoping that it will help speed up the process of dealing with this trope's problems.

edited 24th Jul '11 3:30:39 PM by LouieW

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#40: Jul 24th 2011 at 3:48:26 PM

Crowner hooked.

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#42: Aug 3rd 2011 at 5:55:43 PM

Bump for more votes.

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#43: Aug 3rd 2011 at 9:22:04 PM

It seems Ambiguous Gender links to this page and claimed "indentify[ing] as genderless" counts, so that may have caused some of the confusion. I've gone ahead and nuked that bit.

As for the title, anyone who assumes "gender" automatically equals "gender identity" needs to be hit over the head with a dictionary. Hard and repetitively.

Totenkruez Since: Sep, 2011
#44: Sep 6th 2011 at 3:46:34 PM

Null Sex.

Gets around that "No Sex Allowed" while showing something is not male/female/whatever or even neutered.

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#45: Sep 6th 2011 at 6:46:55 PM

No Physical Gender? (Okay, I was surprised when I heard the phrase "physical gender", but that doesn't necessarily mean everyone finds it weird.) Otherwise, my vote would be for No Biological Gender.

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#46: Sep 6th 2011 at 7:34:01 PM

Yes it needs to be renamed because the title is wrong. That's why the examples don't match the description because it's not describing a lack of gender. Good job catching that Feotakahari.

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Katsuhagi Salty from New England Since: Jan, 2001
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#47: Sep 10th 2011 at 10:08:56 PM

No Biological Sex seems to work best, though I agree that it's a little boring.

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DoktorvonEurotrash Since: Jan, 2001
#48: Sep 11th 2011 at 1:43:56 AM

[up]I quite like it. It's very hard to misunderstand.

Totenkruez Since: Sep, 2011
#49: Sep 11th 2011 at 7:26:15 AM

I still prefer Null Sex.

While we're at it, do we want to make an exclusion for robots and the likes in the description?

[snark]If there's no English version of it, then it's an example of No Export for You![/snark]
20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#50: Sep 11th 2011 at 12:44:22 PM

[up]That exception should be limited to cases where there's no reason to expect them to have a sex - a sexless anthroid should still count.

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AlternativeTitles: NoGender
29th Sep '11 2:21:42 PM

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