Rename (New Crowner 2.6): The Wonka

That would just be a Screw The Rules trope, right?

That may work... Instead of a Weirdness Magnet, they're a Weirdness Generator?

Is it time to create either a single-proposition or page-action crowner to see if everyone agrees on the definitions so far? (People put up with the weird quirks of a Bunny-Ears Lawyer because s/he's so good at her job, and with those of a Wonka because s/he's in charge and/or causes everything around him to follow his weird logic.)

Every time I read this paragraph:

I somehow got out of it that the distinction would be that The Wonka would be someone who's never taken seriously the way a Bunny Ears Lawyer would but gets lots of The Cuckoolander Was Rights because The Wonka thinks weird things for logical reasons rather than just because.

^ What I got out of that paragraph was that while the Cloudcuckoolander is just nuts, the Bunny-Ears Lawyer is a Cloudcuckoolander who is crazy awesome at a particular, specific job, the Wonka has quirky behavior for logical reasons.

It seems like part of the problem is the descriptions are inter- and intra-contradictory, debates about what they might mean could go on indefinitely. I like the "won't/can't be fired" distinction. Seems clear to me.

Yeah, I like the definition of Bunny-Ears Lawyer being the genius nut that won't be fired because he's too dang good at what he does, mostly empty threats being the best one can accomplish with controlling him, and The Wonka being the genius nut that can't be fired, because he in fact owns the company to begin with, so good luck with trying to influence that wacko in any meaningful way.

edited 25th Jan '12 10:49:48 PM by NoirGrimoir

I think it's the clearest distinction between the two tropes we're going to find.

Made a crowner here.

For the sake of organization, I'll vote yes.

Just throwing this out there that since The Wonka is named after a character, maybe Bunny Eared Boss might be a fair substitute if the "can't be fired because he runs the show" description goes through.

Good point.

I like it!

I don't see how a snowclone would be an improvement over the current title.

A snowclone sounds like a good way to heighten confusion between the two tropes.

Bunny-Ears Lawyer in itself is confusing enough, but at least differentiating between a boss and a lawyer would imply a difference in job positions.

I'd really still rather go with Eccentric Boss rather than a Snowclone. Tropes with similar names and similar definitions tend to get blurred together in most tropers heads.

Is twenty-to-one enough of a consensus that we could call this after only four days?

I wonder who the one is.

Calling on clear consensus.

Should we start a crowner on renaming The Wonka as well, or is that a separate thread?

This is The Wonka thread. Rename crowner can go here just fine.

False Dichotomy. The fact that many tropers worked in MuckDonuts doesn't mean "boss" equals "god".

To take the namer as an example, Willy Wonka keeps this job - surprise - because he's damn good at it. In his case, because otherwise there won't be the job. But it has little to do with the character type.

edited 2nd Feb '12 4:22:49 AM by TBeholder

Relevancy?

The boss is a mad genius... and can't be fired (for whatever reason but usually because she owns the place). Where is the false dichotomy? That usually means "one or the other", this is two attributes that are causally unrelated.

Made a crowner for renaming.