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VisibleBoomMic Since: Jul, 2011
#176: Jul 1st 2011 at 1:25:23 PM

Dave here, the rarely seen and never heard fourth member of the Echo Chamber crew.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#177: Jul 1st 2011 at 1:34:32 PM

Hi, Dave the reflection in the window.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#178: Jul 1st 2011 at 1:48:27 PM

Hello. May I speak into you?

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#179: Jul 2nd 2011 at 5:32:56 PM

I am sorry, I'm still just not feeling Dana's performance. When she's just deadpan snarker that works, but when she pulls off a joke, there's something ... missing. I don't know. On the other hand, it may be that I've just decided there's "something wrong" with her performance and as thus am visualizing that wrong-thing, so I'd definitely suggest getting a second opinion.

Also, is it just me, or was Zack voiced by a different person this time around? Something sounded different, but maybe it's just my faulty memory. Go fig.

Tanzmetall Since: Jan, 2011
#180: Jul 2nd 2011 at 7:40:11 PM

Zack is still voiced by Zack. There's a lot of echo in the corridor we filmed in this week, so that could be part of it.

I personally think Dana's a better actor than I am, and I've felt that way for a while. But whatevs. *shrug*

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#181: Jul 2nd 2011 at 8:36:00 PM

Echo in the c(orridor)? Hehe.

As for the characters;

I personally find Dana's snarky prickness to be enjoyable, but I'm a bit biased. Snarky assholes are just my favorite character type. I wonder why?

Tom's feels like an awkward, foolish guy with Jerkass tendencies. If that's what your going for, I think you've pulled it off well.

As for Zack... Zack is kind of... out there, but I think everyone could figure that out, so I'll leave it at that.

edited 2nd Jul '11 8:36:22 PM by Ekuran

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#182: Jul 2nd 2011 at 8:38:03 PM

Even Zack did not know why he was there. The truth is, Tom loves him and brings him everywhere so he can bask in the radiant magnificence of his company.*

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Tidal_Wave_17 Since: Sep, 2009
#183: Jul 2nd 2011 at 8:50:09 PM

Dave, are you going to be in a future episode? Like actually talking and stuff in front of the camera?

Tanzmetall Since: Jan, 2011
#184: Jul 2nd 2011 at 8:52:53 PM

Dave's character will be explored. Promise. I probably shouldn't say more than that.

Tidal_Wave_17 Since: Sep, 2009
#185: Jul 2nd 2011 at 8:57:18 PM

Right! Because that would spoil stuff!

Got it! :D

I still can't believe I'm talking to semi-famous internet peopl! 8D

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#186: Jul 2nd 2011 at 9:16:24 PM

Oh, they're not that famous. Not yet.

But maybe that means that you're meeting semi-famous people who will become stars in the future. You'll know them before they're famous! grin

EDIT: Just watch video. Porn Girl returns! grin

Time to troperify the page.

And by the way. Is it me, or Tom has a little stubble under his face? Maybe because I used HD?

edited 2nd Jul '11 9:26:54 PM by chihuahua0

OnTheOtherHandle Since: Feb, 2010
#187: Jul 2nd 2011 at 9:47:25 PM

I think the Tom-Dana dynamic is the best part of the show. You guys play off each other very well. And I'd like an episode where Zack is in front of the camera. Maybe Throw the Dog a Bone?

edited 2nd Jul '11 9:48:00 PM by OnTheOtherHandle

"War doesn't prove who's right, only who's left." "Every saint has a past, every sinner has a future."
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#189: Jul 2nd 2011 at 10:34:13 PM

Latest ep: On the date, tweed jacket, bowtie, Shout-Out to the Eleventh Doctor? Asking before it goes in the trope page.

Tanzmetall Since: Jan, 2011
#190: Jul 2nd 2011 at 10:43:46 PM

Are you asking me specifically if it is intended as a shout-out, or are you asking Tropers in general if this counts as that trope?

It's not a deliberate shout-out, I don't watch Doctor Who. Zack is a fan, and our producer Yulin loves it, but neither of them picked my jacket.

I'm gonna be honest. I only bought that sports coat because I found it to be profoundly ugly. It's the color of cat vomit, and the patterning didn't help. I was actually stunned when it didn't look all that bad on camera.

I do genuinely like bowties, though. smile

bottledinsanity Since: Apr, 2011
#191: Jul 2nd 2011 at 10:51:56 PM

[up][up] The script called for the ugliest sweatervest in existence. The jacket is what Tom already owned, so we rolled with it. Any resemblance to characters fictional or otherwise is entirely coincidental tongue

I learn about how stories work for the same reason that soldiers learn how to strip a rifle.
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#192: Jul 2nd 2011 at 11:27:18 PM

I think Tom's acting is better for "zingers," and Dana better for level conversation. For instance, rewatching the most recent episode, Tom's dialogue pertaining to just talking about the trope seems rather stilted (in previous episodes, I assumed that was intentional-he's portrayed as a fairly lame video blogger, right?) and Dana seems more believable. But then Dana says, and I quote, "Crazy Fuck Mc Stalkerson" and it just seemed like that line should have been delivered more somehow. When Tom gets a line, "I tolerate it because... I mean have you seen her boobs, Dana?" I really feel that-that sort of overemphasis that makes me feel like "Yeah, this is a show-and I like it." It's sitcom energy-the type of thing you don't see in real life, but that's okay, because sitcoms aren't about being like real life, they're about impact.

So, if I were to make a recommendation, playing to one's strengths (reinforce success), I'd have to say, Dana needs less zingers, and Tom needs to have more, but play up the stilted element of dialogue.

Incidentally, introduce a "rival" character or something-there's just so many tropes that require a substantial rival. Preferably someone that's an Arrogant Kung-Fu Guy, who's well aware of the fact. "That's so unrealistic" you say? Nonsense! I exist in reality! Now finding someone to act that way voluntarily...

Tanzmetall Since: Jan, 2011
#193: Jul 2nd 2011 at 11:38:25 PM

Re: a rival... meet me over in the spec script thread. There's something we should discuss...

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#194: Jul 3rd 2011 at 1:08:51 PM

The what? Spec Script?

You just mean the Trope of the Week Scripts thread? What's Spec stand for?

edited 3rd Jul '11 1:13:41 PM by TheyCallMeTomu

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#195: Jul 3rd 2011 at 1:25:12 PM

Speculative. There's no promise that they'll use it.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#196: Jul 3rd 2011 at 1:28:53 PM

Ah, gotcha.

I did recently send in a script for Face Palm. Either it's pure comedy gold, or about 90 seconds of utter tripe. There is no medium. There can be no grey.

Tidal_Wave_17 Since: Sep, 2009
#197: Jul 4th 2011 at 5:30:43 PM

Wait, if Alyssa Porn Girl showed up in this episode, does that mean that Crying Girl and Possible Serial Killer will show up in future episodes, too?

Tanzmetall Since: Jan, 2011
#198: Jul 4th 2011 at 5:42:07 PM

Theoretically, although the actress who played the distraught girl moved away. So, knife guy, yeah.

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#199: Jul 4th 2011 at 7:03:30 PM

But I like Crying Girl...Porn Girl was good but Crying Girl had more potential for tropes.

She'll be a One-Scene Wonder forever...

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#200: Jul 4th 2011 at 7:07:39 PM

Could always The Other Darrin her. Though, that kind of weird surreality may not belong in Echo Chamber.

edited 4th Jul '11 7:08:06 PM by TheyCallMeTomu


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