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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#5477: Feb 22nd 2016 at 3:53:53 PM

I wonder if Zeb is going to get an outright arc of his own this season.

I just realized that the whole thing about "the child saving the warrior and the fool" didn't actually fire in the episode with the Lasat prophecy. It must've been referring to this episode, at least in part (depending on whether Hondo also appears).

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
NhazUl Since: Sep, 2011
#5478: Feb 22nd 2016 at 4:11:46 PM

I assumed the warrior to be Kallus.

Anyway, with the two stranded like that, the "afraid of the dark" taunt and the predators that are apparently lurking on the moon, this is the second time Rebels has reminded me of Pitch Black.

edited 22nd Feb '16 4:16:32 PM by NhazUl

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#5479: Feb 22nd 2016 at 4:19:14 PM

Zeb assumed multiple roles in that episode.

Kallus was the warrior, as he was hunting the Ghost crew and the Lasats, and Zeb initially thought that he was the warrior because he was an Honor Guard of Lasan, but he actually turned out to be the child (child of Lasan) as well as the fool, I think.

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#5480: Feb 22nd 2016 at 4:21:50 PM

I think Hondo was the fool, though the old lady said Zeb had traits from all three.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#5481: Feb 22nd 2016 at 4:24:20 PM

Kallus was the warrior, Hondo was the fool, Zeb was the child (of Lasat).

In the prophecy, there's a line about the child saving the fool and the warrior, which iirc doesn't actually happen in that episode.

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#5482: Feb 22nd 2016 at 10:59:08 PM

So I was looking at the character page, and it seems the Ghost's crew is practically a Super Team:

  • Hera is a ridiculously good pilot, leader of a fighter squadron, and daughter of a hypercompetent revolutionary.
  • Kanan is a jedi turned gun-fighter.
  • Zeb was a military leader and possibly The Chosen One of the Lasat.
  • Sabine seems to have both Imperial military and Mandalorian warrior training, is a demolitions expert and skilled all-around technician, and a former bounty-hunter.
  • Chopper is an extremely skilled hacker and has unparalleled bloodlust.
  • Ezra is the least impressive of them, but he's a decent thief as well as a Jedi, and he and his parents are revolutionary icons on Lothal.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#5483: Feb 23rd 2016 at 12:23:35 AM

Maybe, but not by Star Wars standards. Kanan is downright harmless compared to pretty much any jedi seen before him, and both Zeb or Sabine, while dangerous, aren't on the same threat level than some other non-Force users.

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#5484: Feb 23rd 2016 at 12:24:35 AM

I wonder what would happen to Kallus after this? Will he be unrepentant and Ungrateful Bastard after all is said and done, or will he pull a Reinrassic III here? Or will he die?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#5485: Feb 23rd 2016 at 12:33:19 AM

[up][up][up] It makes sense given the show's general Saturday Morning Action Cartoon vibe, with the whole team of action heroes thing. Each of them pegs a character archetype from shows like that.

edited 23rd Feb '16 12:40:25 AM by KnownUnknown

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#5486: Feb 23rd 2016 at 11:34:08 AM

Also, given what they do, why would they bring someone completely useless along?

It's less that they're all exceptionally skilled, and more that they're a Team Of Specialists. Warrior, demo expert, hacker, thief...they're basically an RPG party.

NhazUl Since: Sep, 2011
#5487: Feb 25th 2016 at 2:32:55 AM

Not a bad episode. Reminded me of both Pitch Black and The Isolated episode from Tron: Uprising.

8Kids Since: Oct, 2013
#5488: Feb 25th 2016 at 3:51:31 AM

[up]Pretty solid episode.

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8Kids Since: Oct, 2013
#5490: Feb 25th 2016 at 8:01:35 AM

Good question-what happened on Geonosis?

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Werebazs from Hungary Since: Sep, 2011
#5491: Feb 25th 2016 at 9:02:29 AM

[up]Look up the new Star Wars: Darth Vader comics. I think it's in issue 4 or 5.

edited 25th Feb '16 9:03:05 AM by Werebazs

8Kids Since: Oct, 2013
#5492: Feb 25th 2016 at 9:16:15 AM

Points for linking the stories together,anyway.And I recall it now.

edited 25th Feb '16 9:17:22 AM by 8Kids

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NhazUl Since: Sep, 2011
#5494: Feb 25th 2016 at 3:29:44 PM

[up] Weird, this new design looks. Closer to ESB, though, hmm.

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#5495: Feb 25th 2016 at 3:53:17 PM

I think it's a huge improvement. The Clone Wars Yoda had eyeballs bigger than my fists...

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NhazUl Since: Sep, 2011
#5496: Feb 25th 2016 at 4:07:18 PM

Well, and he almost had a beak. But here at 1:05 he reminds me of Palpatine of all people.

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#5497: Feb 25th 2016 at 5:26:57 PM

Okay, loved The Honorable Ones, especially Kallus at the end. Really want to see him get more focus in the future. Chopper gonna Chop.

Not sure I'm a fan of Yoda actually appearing, vision or not.

edited 25th Feb '16 5:31:29 PM by TheAirman

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#5498: Feb 25th 2016 at 7:57:20 PM

I'm not so sure about them trying to sell Kallus as an honorable Noble Demon warrior who just didn't know the depths of the Empire's cruelty, but other than that this episode was fantastic.

Every time Zeb gets focus, I like him more and more as a character. I always liked how the avoided the obvious character type with Zeb and instead gave him some great development.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#5499: Feb 28th 2016 at 1:27:17 PM

I really liked that Kallus got humanized and fleshed out in The Honorable Ones. The episode really made it feel like Kallus has a lot of similar ideals as Zeb, such as respect and honor for fellow warriors, but he doesn't get to experience camaraderie like Zeb does with the Ghost crew.

And Kallus really hates that.

NhazUl Since: Sep, 2011
#5500: Feb 28th 2016 at 1:41:38 PM

[up][up] It's more like they're trying to sell Kallus as a Knight Templar Anti-Villain who believes that all rebels are murderous scum based on his personal experience (whaich trope was that?). He is aware for the most part of how the Empire deals with them but sems convinced that every last one rebel deserves it. And until this episode, he had a special hatred for Lasats.

edited 28th Feb '16 1:43:13 PM by NhazUl


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