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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#1651: Jan 8th 2017 at 1:55:54 AM

I saw the retrospective feature a couple of days ago, apparently it spoiled the outcome of the finale. As I understand it from the clips, Peter was given an ultimatum: His powers for his Aunt, yet in the retrospective I saw which showed clips from the last episode, Peter mentions he got his powers back during a fight. A big Whoops on Disney's part.

It didn't end on a clffhanger like every Spidey cartoon since 1997 did it?

edited 8th Jan '17 1:56:48 AM by Zarius

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#1652: Jan 8th 2017 at 2:31:07 AM

Oh, great, the cure thing again. I hate that cliché. And yes, that includes it in Spectacular Spider-Man, despite my love for that show. I just feel it's... kinda cheap. Besides, Doctor Octopus is offering him a choice despite having him at his mercy to forcefully inject the cure, because...?

Also, apparently Doc Ock got a new body I see. God figure.

edited 8th Jan '17 2:32:24 AM by Theokal3

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#1653: Jan 8th 2017 at 3:37:39 AM

Doc Ock wanted Peter to bear the full consequences of his action, that Peter didn't just lose his powers, he gave it up himself, as an extra punch in the gut, making him fully aware that it was his own fault that all superheroes were going to die.

Signatures are for lamers.
Cortez Since: May, 2009
#1654: Jan 8th 2017 at 6:11:42 AM

You know, say what you will about the show, i know it has been divisive. But, i'm glad a Spider-Man cartoon finally got a proper finale, since pretty much every single one prior never got the opportunity.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#1655: Jan 8th 2017 at 11:32:44 AM

[up][up]Okay, I guess this explanation kinda works.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#1656: Jan 8th 2017 at 12:28:26 PM

[up][up]

You got a point there. I'm sure this isn't the series people would have wanted to have a finale, but that's how it goes sometimes.

Well, it's been quite a ride Ultimate Spiderman. You had your ups...and definitely had your downs, but things will be different without you...that is, until the much better show comes along that is.tongue

One Strip! One Strip!
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#1657: Jan 8th 2017 at 12:30:19 PM

Just wait until the new show proves being worse!

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#1658: Jan 8th 2017 at 1:30:07 PM

[up] Shhhhhhhhh!

Don't you realize you're Tempting Fate when you say stuff like that?!

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#1659: Jan 8th 2017 at 5:48:51 PM

Honestly, I wait to see. For all we know, it COULD be just as bad, though in my opinion the worse that could happen would be it being on par with Avengers Assemble. I pray that Marvel finally learnt their lesson and will be putting some effort in the writing again.

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#1660: Jan 8th 2017 at 6:58:58 PM

I like this series finale, it was a fitting way to close out the series.

It did a pretty good job in highlighting the development of Peter as a character in the span of the first episode to now (while at the same time lampshading the plot problems of the early seasons).

The first part of the finale seems like a recreation of Spider Man Annual #1 (you know, the debut of Sinister Six), which like the comic has Doctor Octopus holding Spider Man's love ones hostage in an attempt to force the hero to face a gauntlet of his enemies but the Spider Man gain some help from all the other Marvel heroes. I actually like that they pull off that story.

Speaking of Doc Ock, he really shows off why he is Spdey's #1 arch nemesis with his plan. Threatening the live of his only family member, forcing him to give up his powers, capturing and slowly crushing all of Earth's heroes; Ock really means buisiness in this episode when taking his revenge on Spider Man. And, surprisingly, he manage to redeem himself and pull a Heel Face Turn after Spidey save him from his mutation. And here I though My Little Pony was crazy with redeeming their villains, cause so far all of the biggest Spider Man villains in this show all turned good (Green Goblin, Venom, Sandman, Rhino, Vulture, Mysterio). Well at least Kingpin is still a bad guy . . . wait he never made an appearance in a Spider Man cartoon since the 90s. Kingpin better appear in the new Spiderman cartoon.

Cross Since: Aug, 2012
#1661: Jan 8th 2017 at 7:38:45 PM

That makes sense when some of them were anti-villains at most. Sandman went crazy from isolation, Vulture spent majority of his time under someone else's control, Lady Mysterio just wanted her dad, and Papa Mysterio crimes were relegated to flashbacks.

Cortez Since: May, 2009
#1662: Jan 8th 2017 at 9:23:38 PM

[up]×2

He was in MTV Spider-Man show.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#1663: Jan 9th 2017 at 4:03:35 AM

I apologize if this sounds like a stupid question, but did Spider-Man permanently lose his power in this finale after all? I'm honestly curious.

Etheru Since: Jul, 2009
BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#1665: Jan 9th 2017 at 9:59:34 AM

[up]x3 Let me rephrase that: he never appeared in a GOOD Spider-Man cartoon since the 90s. I'm not a fan of the MTV Spider-Man cartoon.

[up]x2 Permanently lost them at the first part to build tension, got them back in the second half cause we don't want a downer ending.

Cross Since: Aug, 2012
#1666: Jan 9th 2017 at 10:07:51 AM

Let me rephrase that: he never appeared in a GOOD Spider-Man cartoon since the 90s. I'm not a fan of the MTV Spider-Man cartoon.

In this case, while they couldn't use Fisk for some reason Spectacular's Tombstone was close enough. Plus Netflix Fisk is pretty well liked, especially in Season 2.

Cortez Since: May, 2009
#1667: Jan 9th 2017 at 10:22:09 AM

[up]x4

Of course not.Like you said, it's how the "Spider-Man No More" stories usually go.

Anyway, i like that thus Spider-Man was successful in reforming villains. It's usually doesn't in other adaptation and it almost never lasts in the comics.

edited 9th Jan '17 10:22:51 AM by Cortez

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#1668: Jan 9th 2017 at 12:16:49 PM

[up]His daughter Mayday redeemed a lot of villains too

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#1669: Jan 9th 2017 at 1:02:33 PM

Okay, I thought they wouldn't let him really lose his powers. Not that I'll blame them for it, I don't like when a story end with the Hero losing his powers and returning to a normal life. So yeah, while I still don't like the cliché, even less in a climax, I'll at least give USM credit for not going that road for the ending.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#1670: Jan 9th 2017 at 9:21:12 PM

What was the plot of the finale?

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illegalcheese X-14: Killer Cheese Since: Apr, 2010
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#1671: Jan 10th 2017 at 8:58:01 AM

Hey man, the MTV show was alright.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#1672: Jan 10th 2017 at 11:53:59 AM

Well, it was nothing horrible or great in my opinion. Though the fact they had to use mostly original characters rather than comic villains didn't help.

Etheru Since: Jul, 2009
#1673: Jan 10th 2017 at 4:36:12 PM

@lalalei2001: Basically

Peter is going to graduate from SHIELD, with Aunt May going to his graduation and planning on giving Peter a gift, but Peter goes for breakfast and finds Doctor Octopus at the table (which I'm pretty sure is a reference to the comics), and he offers Peter an ultimatum: Either he quits being Spider-Man, or he kills Aunt May, and leaves the house.

Peter, being pissed off about this, decides to put Aunt May in a saferoom in SHIELD while his teams search for the Sinister Six (now including Crossbones, who was going to help them but got forcefully transformed into the New Lizard). They all take down the team and praise Spidey for being a good leader, and they get back in time for the graduation... Only for it to have turned out Doc Ock was planning to be put in SHIELD custody, promptly escaping, and threatens to make good on his threat to kill Aunt May, but then offers Peter one last chance, giving him an antidote for his powers. Peter, feeling guilt for having inadvertantly caused troubles, figures the most responsible thing to do is get rid of his powers. And then it turns out Doctor Octopus was planning on killing all superheroes in a shrinking field because they all came to see the SHIELD graduates, and making Peter watch.

Afterwards, Peter is left behind with his Aunt May, but then Aunt May gives him the gift from earlier; his original webshooters! She says stuff about how Peter's best trait isn't that he's Spider-Man, but that he's Peter, and then Peter escapes and goes to Norman for help, due to Norman being late for graduation.

They then find out the reason that Octavius could never perfectly replicate Peter's powers were due to a unique genetic quirk Peter had, in the process of trying to restore his superpowers. They succeed, of course, and the final battle with the Sinister Six, after they'd destroyed the Octavius building, begins. Peter cures all the members of the Sinister Six that are mutates (due to keeping the cure for them on him, for some reason), and with some help from the cured Rhino and Vulture (but not Crossbones, who says this isn't his fight), defeats the armored ones, and then fights Doctor Octopus, who mutates himself into kind of an astonishingly giant silly octopus creature, and is promptly cured. He then goes on a rant for how he wanted to be respected and stuff and Peter's like "dude you'll get more respect if you're good", and goes to save the supers.

In the process of trying to save them, Ock helps him(!!!), and they succeed. The episode ends with Peter's graduation, the implication Ock could be redeemed, a brief fight with the Trapster, and Peter continuing his career as Spider-Man.

Might have missed a lot of details, honestly.

edited 10th Jan '17 4:45:33 PM by Etheru

Cross Since: Aug, 2012
#1674: Jan 10th 2017 at 4:48:52 PM

That seems pretty standard.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#1675: Jan 10th 2017 at 5:41:47 PM

I dare even say Cliché Storm. But eh, it's an okay way to end the series I guess.

edited 10th Jan '17 5:42:06 PM by Theokal3


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