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Judecca Since: Dec, 2010
#1: Mar 19th 2011 at 10:18:39 PM

I have a question concerning the general use of certain anime-based tropes being used in media works that aren't from the east. What would be a different name for a Yandere or a Tsundere, since most of the audience probably wouldn't catch the term immediately.

And, your idea-in-general. How is it coming along?

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SakuraTenshi Since: Nov, 2010
#2: Mar 19th 2011 at 10:35:05 PM

Hmmm... I'm not sure if there's a good way to put Tsundere into Western Terms, at least not anymore. I believe, if one went by the original meaning of Tsundere (like, way back before the wiki was founded or the Internet was highly proliferated), I think it would be Defrosting the Ice Queen? But Tsundere is generally presented as a regular shift in disposition whereas the later is a form of Character Development.

As for my own stuff, it's struggling. But it's found quite a bit of life in RP groups. One character I enjoy toying with in my head for a big story is my namesake, a magical girl who grows from a typical magical girl into a grizzled, Youma fighting veteran. to her, The Power of Friendship takes the form of one of her friends being a sniper in a nearby tree.

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#3: Mar 19th 2011 at 10:53:04 PM

I'm fairly certain that here in the west (at least in America) we would call a tsundere and its sister tropes a bitch of some variety. How the character in question takes this depends on the relationship with the name caller.

Remember, tsundere characters are reacted to a certain way in Japanese media/culture that wouldn't happen in American culture. We just interpret the behavior through different cultural lenses.

edited 19th Mar '11 10:55:01 PM by AceofSpades

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#4: Mar 20th 2011 at 5:11:40 AM

I'm a writer heavily influenced by Anime/Manga and Light Novels. Half of my inspiration comes from them, while the other half comes from American movies  *

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melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#5: Mar 20th 2011 at 9:28:35 AM

I think the Western equivalent of yandere is "bunny-boiler"? Dunno if anybody actually uses that term though. They'd probably just say "psycho bitch" or whatever.

I'm pretty sure the phrase associated with tsundere is "playing hard to get".

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#6: Mar 21st 2011 at 9:19:17 AM

Besides movies, my writing and art are almost entirely inspired by seinen manga.

Yandere: It depends on the level of Yandereism. Most people would just go with "crazy" or "psycho" for a low-level one.

Tsundere: "Playing hard to get," or "bitch." Depends on who's talking.

edited 21st Mar '11 9:21:37 AM by Wheezy

Project progress: The Adroan (102k words), The Pigeon Witch, (40k). Done but in need of reworking: Yume Hime, (50k)
Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#7: Mar 21st 2011 at 10:44:46 AM

Oo oo oo oo!

My story is currently very heavily based in anime/manga tropes mostly playing with them and seeing how they can b exploited in traditional writing formats. I have a very Light Novel style .

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NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#8: Mar 21st 2011 at 11:35:30 PM

New Dawn Hollow Dusk is completely anime / manga based. I...cannot picture any of its events with real humans. I need to envision the events using anime characters. I think I will try and get a manga made of it.

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#9: Mar 22nd 2011 at 4:44:12 AM

My current work in progress borrows some tropes from anime and manga, but I'm working to distance it a little. The fewer anime and manga influences it has, the easier it is to convey in novel format.

edited 22nd Mar '11 4:44:43 AM by KSPAM

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animemetalhead Runs on Awesomeness from Ashwood Landing, ME Since: Apr, 2010
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#10: Mar 22nd 2011 at 5:41:48 AM

Meh, my planned Na No Wri Mo novel is basically Mahou Sensei Negima meets Naruto meets Forgotten Realms meets an Old Shame Fan Fic of mine.

So yeah, I'm a little influenced by anime and manga.

edited 22nd Mar '11 5:42:12 AM by animemetalhead

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#11: Mar 22nd 2011 at 6:51:22 AM

My Na No Wri Mo was basically Death Note meets X Men meets Fate Stay Night meets Shaman King.

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BetsyandtheFiveAvengers Since: Feb, 2011
#12: Mar 22nd 2011 at 7:03:00 AM

I'm working on an American Magical Girl story, but I've been using a lot anime/manga tropes.

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#13: Mar 22nd 2011 at 4:51:15 PM

[up]Cool.

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#14: Mar 23rd 2011 at 2:42:55 AM

—sighs—

—reluctantly raises hand—

Guilty, unfortunately.

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Everest Since: Sep, 2011
#15: Mar 23rd 2011 at 6:02:46 AM

Guilty. I don't watch as much anime as I'd like, but I can't imagine characters I write looking like anything but anime characters, and that has a heavy influence on how I write them and how they look.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#16: Mar 23rd 2011 at 6:54:53 AM

[up] Ah, same here. Although I'm probably more guilty because when I read a novel and character's description, I always imagine them in manga form. It becomes rather jarring when I'm reading stuff like The Dresden Files.

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#17: Mar 23rd 2011 at 12:33:57 PM

[up] I have that issue but it extend to my memories too.

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#18: Mar 27th 2011 at 3:51:49 AM

Yandere - Cute but a bit crazy Tsundere - Tough but gushy in secret. Most of my stories were based of animesque works because I liked the style, I tried writing a manga, but ehhh too hard. But many of my characters have You Gotta Have Blue Hair and a brutal deconstruction of Mary Sue traits

edited 27th Mar '11 3:53:44 AM by sabrina_diamond

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heartlessmushroom Space hobo Since: Jan, 2010
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#19: Mar 27th 2011 at 8:37:55 AM

I dont watch anme that often, but I like the artsyile of some of them like Black Lagoon of Full Metal Alchemist.

As for my plots, I wouldnt know if they are anime influenced or not, I try to avoid most manga and anime cliches and really hoping to desconstruct those psycho bitch tropes that nevertheles are played as if normal in most anime.

annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
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#20: Mar 27th 2011 at 9:59:51 AM

The thing I'm working on is a comic, and my art style has a subtle influence from manga since that was where I started. The paneling arrangement is very much manga, but I'm not sure about the story itself.

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redpyro Anything but artist from Morelia Since: Mar, 2011
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#21: Mar 27th 2011 at 6:04:49 PM

I used to be a huge anime/manga fan, not so much anymore but it is still my main influence, my current work in progress is basicaly a harem anime in novel form, I'm borrowing as many anime-related tropes and adjusting them to my own needs (specially the cultural-related ones).

Anyway, why do you need a term to refer to a Tsundere or otherwise? It's not like people call them "tsundere" in anime in the first place, I mean, nobody calls the protagonist "protagonist" or "main character" or anything like that.

I'm not a native english speaker, please forgive my bad grammar and misspells.
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#22: Mar 28th 2011 at 10:47:41 AM

[up] Unless it's a postmodernist work that likes Breaking the Fourth Wall

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redpyro Anything but artist from Morelia Since: Mar, 2011
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#23: Mar 28th 2011 at 11:08:38 AM

If that where the case then the character in question would be Genre Savvy and then he would actually know what a tsundere is, and as for the audience I believe that it's best to overstimate than understimate them, in the former case they might look in google for a term they do not know, in the later case they will feel insulted.

I'm not a native english speaker, please forgive my bad grammar and misspells.
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#24: May 29th 2011 at 8:31:50 AM

What I'm writing is basically an English Light Novel. In addition, I'm actually organizing the story so the first arc would be a good 12-Episode Anime.

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Vilui Since: May, 2009
#25: May 29th 2011 at 9:48:24 AM

Of the three works I have in progress or planning at the moment, two are explicitly anime-based Fan Fic, and the third has an original storyline and characters but is a Magical Girl story heavily inspired by Mai Hime.


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