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Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#3551: Jul 28th 2014 at 6:50:30 PM

And now for something very different from all the other posts about the Great War in this thread.

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."
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Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#3554: Jul 29th 2014 at 9:15:48 AM

Another historical tidbit from the First World War, one that I absolutely love: during the conflict in Africa, the Germans - as every other European army - made extensive use of native troops. Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck, their brilliant commander, had great affection for his askaris and they for him. Using his small force, he ran rings around the Allied forces sent to put him down, and his were the last German forces to lay down their arms. When Hitler asked him to serve as Ambadassador to Britain he told him (quote): "Go fuck yourself." In 1964, after his death, the West German government honored his dying wish that his surviving men should be given their back pay:

The Weimar Republic provided pension payments to the German askaris. Due to interruptions during the worldwide depression and World War II, the parliament of the Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany) voted in 1964 to fund the back pay of the askaris still alive. The West German embassy at Dar es Salaam identified approximately 350 ex-askaris and set up a temporary cashiers office at Mwanza on Lake Victoria.

Only a few claimants could produce the certificates given to them in 1918; others provided pieces of their old uniforms as proof of service. The banker who had brought the money came up with an idea: as each claimant stepped forward he was handed a broom and ordered in German to perform the manual of arms. Not one of them failed the test.

Der Traeger und Askari: "Heia! Heia safari!"

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SantosLHalper Since: Aug, 2009
#3555: Jul 29th 2014 at 9:58:37 AM

According to his son, von Lettow-Vorbeck saying "Go fuck yourself" to Hitler is a myth.

He would never say anything so polite to Hitler. [lol]

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#3557: Aug 3rd 2014 at 12:02:32 PM

I wonder: had the Highland clans been called, say, 'fiefdoms' and the chiefs 'lords' in regular parlance, would the Jacobite Rebellions been as romanticised as it was in Real Life?

edited 3rd Aug '14 12:02:46 PM by SantosLHalper

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#3559: Aug 3rd 2014 at 3:17:15 PM

Probably. The romanticist reinterpretation of the Jacobites (and Highland culture in general) was so liberal with the facts in the first place that I can't imagine it would make a difference.

The subtext of Scott's (among others) fictionalized accounts of the Highlanders is one of the end of the old, late medieval world and the transition to the Enlightened, industrial, proto-capitalist one of the 19th century. Concepts like fiefdoms would serve that principle in much the same way as the 19th century image of the Clan system did.

edited 3rd Aug '14 3:18:38 PM by TheBatPencil

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#3562: Aug 4th 2014 at 3:26:15 PM

His Majesty's Government consider that a state of war exists between the two countries as from today at 11 o'clock pm.

Funny how such world shattering moments can be summed up in a single sentence.

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#3563: Aug 4th 2014 at 3:52:56 PM

Hey there everyone, I'm writing a sci-fi at the moment based upon norse myth and viking culture, and one of the main aspects is something I need help on. My weird question is whether shepherds existed in Viking Age Scandanavia (any of the countries will do) and, if so, what information is there on their occupation? Thank you for your time.

“You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.” Friedrich Nietzsche
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#3564: Aug 4th 2014 at 4:32:14 PM

Shepherding of some sort or another pretty much existed all over Europe in that time frame. It is a basic profession common to many agrarian societies.

The Viking Answer Lady Has this one in a pretty ready to read answer.

edited 4th Aug '14 6:20:01 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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Ndf27 Ndf27 from England, UK Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Ndf27
#3565: Aug 4th 2014 at 5:42:22 PM

Thank you for your help Tuefel, it's much appreciated.

“You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.” Friedrich Nietzsche
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#3566: Aug 4th 2014 at 6:20:13 PM

NP.grin

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#3567: Aug 4th 2014 at 10:55:42 PM

Meanwhile, I'm three days off from the exact date, but we're almost 70 years to the day to one of the great events that shaped modern-day Poland: the Warsaw Uprising. What can I say about it that hasn't been said?

Instead, here. Have some Sabaton.

Charlie Stross's cheerful, optimistic predictions for 2017, part one of three.
Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#3568: Aug 5th 2014 at 2:20:37 PM

Poland's finest hour. The Nazis sent every one of their most advanced and terrible weapon systems - the Karl Devices, the Sturmtigers, hospital-bombing Stukas, along with Oskar Direlwanger's band of psychopaths. Despite all this, the Poles gave them a fight that Heinrich Himmler compared to Stalingrad. Ignored by Stalin, dismissed by Roosevelt, and ineffectually supported by Churchill - and treated with contempt by many in the British press, especially on the political Left, which is a stain on our flag to this day. Orwell said it best, in his As I Please of 1 September 1944.

An excellent quotation is this one, which gives a sense of how horrific the fighting was:

What I remember most was Tadeusz Araki, a brave boy, a good shot who sang beautifully and had a sense of humour. He was wounded in the stomach. We got to him with a stretcher, but a mortar hit, wounding the stretcher bearers and Araki a second time ... The hospital was so full of wounded men there was not space on the floor for him, but they did try to operate. I was called in. He was dying. Before he did, though, he asked me to say goodbye to the boys. I only cried twice during the Uprising and that was once.

- Dr. Halina Jedrzejewska

Poland is not yet lost, indeed:

A father, in tears,

Says to his Basia:

"Listen, it seems our boys,

Are beating the drums again."

[...]

Every man shouts together:

"Enough of slavery!"

We have the scythes of Racławice,

And God will give us Kościuszko.

edited 5th Aug '14 2:24:07 PM by Achaemenid

Schild und Schwert der Partei
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#3569: Aug 5th 2014 at 3:59:14 PM

Sabaton certainly an interesting band. I was a little unsure of them at first.

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#3570: Aug 6th 2014 at 12:51:03 PM

So today's the 69th anniversary of the Hiroshima bombing. And now for something completely different:

Computer model simulates Neolithic transition from egalitarianism to leadership and despotism

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#3572: Aug 7th 2014 at 6:21:47 PM

The Etruscans will, nonetheless, remain a bit of an enigma.

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#3574: Aug 9th 2014 at 1:47:01 PM

So, today is apparently the day Nagasaki was bombed. Have a heavy metal song about it as we remember all that horrifying day.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#3575: Aug 9th 2014 at 3:22:14 PM

The history channel actually has an interesting bit on if Caligula is mad or not. Still fairly speculative but they put some solid reasons giving method to the madness.

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