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Psi001 Since: Oct, 2010
#14526: Feb 23rd 2013 at 7:47:30 PM

I think it depends on character, Sonic would indeed likely be like the proto game (albeit with likely more enthasis on speed and dynamic level design), I wouldn't place bets against Sally playing something like Amy however, albeit replace the hammer with a NICOLE laser attack.

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#14527: Feb 23rd 2013 at 11:11:19 PM

A blend of speed, action, stealth, and evasion would rock hard. You'd have to sneak around the city/installations without alerting too many hostiles and bringing in the big threats, yet you'll also need to quickly get to your destination because you're on a tight schedule.

Sonic can sneak around if he has to, although admittedly such gameplay would suit Tails better, in that Tails Adventure style with his vast collection of gadgets and stuff. He's got the wire-guided UAV drone, the explosive charges, and the nifty tools and stuff.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#14528: Feb 23rd 2013 at 11:16:21 PM

I don't know, Amy seems more like an "escape from area" character. Sonic Adventure 1, that's what she generally does, her stealth gameplay in Sonic 2006, the fact she can't often curl into a ball requires a slower pace.

Tails is usually better for flying-related stuff. Dogfights, actual gadgets, vehicles, some speedy segments. He's not a slow character at all.

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#14529: Feb 23rd 2013 at 11:17:16 PM

Where Sonic is an action hero, Tails is the Genius Hero, with the gadgets and tools. Sneaking around is fine for when he needs discretion.

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0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#14530: Feb 23rd 2013 at 11:30:13 PM

[up][up]Not to mention how in 2006 she can freaking turn herself invisible omg how and why?!?? But I digress.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#14531: Feb 23rd 2013 at 11:36:11 PM

[up] Magic. Something she's dabbed in.

[up][up] Tails rarely sneaks around, outside of one game at best. Amy seems a better fit for it honestly. Also, it still gives Sonic, Knuckles, and Tails unique bosses/gameplay if done that way.

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#14532: Feb 23rd 2013 at 11:49:44 PM

[up]But they don't even give any reason for it in the game. I could accept magic if they actually, well, explained that there was magic afoot. Even a throwaway bit of dialogue to Hand Wave it would be nice.

Granted, there's a lot of stuff in the series with regards to characters' abilities that don't really make sense if you really think about it, but this particular thing bugs me more than any of the others. It just doesn't make any sense to me for her to have as an ability.

edited 23rd Feb '13 11:50:09 PM by 0dd1

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#14533: Feb 23rd 2013 at 11:58:45 PM

She used magic to find Sonic. Nobody said she didn't use invisibility magic to get there. And sneaking around and such does fit her personality anyway.

It would've been nice with a Hand Wave, sure, but it isn't unbelievable for her to do anyway.

It's just as odd as the Ring Boxes with Rouge.(Tails could easily make that if he wanted) None of the others seemed that special beyond Tails and Amy, anyway. Blaze was one of the better characters to play, along with... everybody but Rouge and Knuckles. Man, their ability to cling was stupidly glitchy. >_<

Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
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#14534: Feb 24th 2013 at 12:35:39 AM

I thought the invisibility thing was a leftover from Espio being excluded as playable?

0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#14535: Feb 24th 2013 at 12:39:24 AM

She used magic to find Sonic. Nobody said she didn't use invisibility magic to get there.
By that logic, you could say that nobody said that Eggman isn't really a humanoid walrus and that he's just waiting for the right time to sneak up on Sonic and the gang and shout, "GOO-GOO-GA-JOOB!" at them.

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MrMallard Since: Oct, 2010
#14536: Feb 24th 2013 at 7:11:51 AM

That analogy was horrible, and that's coming from ME.

Now, Amy dabbled in TAROT cards. That's not being able to use whatever magic she can, that's using a deck of special cards to predict the future, pretty much. She's also good at sneaking naturally; you can't use a deck of tarots like a spellbook.

Can she use magic? Yeah, kinda. Can she use invisibility magic? lolnope.

PhysicalStamina Since: Apr, 2012
#14537: Feb 24th 2013 at 7:34:32 AM

[up][up][up]Espio was supposed to be playable?

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#14538: Feb 24th 2013 at 9:59:03 AM

[up][up] It's believable enough at this point.

[up] Not that I know of. I can't find anything on Unseen 64, which has beta information. I'd have to look around, really.

Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
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#14539: Feb 24th 2013 at 11:48:10 AM

That's what I heard. Or playable as a partner like the other non hedgehog characters, I mean.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#14540: Feb 24th 2013 at 12:16:55 PM

I can't find anything about it via Google either. Where did you hear it from?

It's somewhat believable that he was scrapped for Amy, who fit into the story much better(even if for the somewhat lame repeat of the Hedgehog Glomp from Sonic Adventure 2(I mean the idea of the repeat is lame, not the concept itself)), and kind of saved Sonic's life, so...

miru Knouge forever!! Since: Jan, 2001
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#14541: Feb 24th 2013 at 12:57:30 PM

I think the next Sonix game should have individual game over quotes like in Batman: Arkham City.

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Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
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#14542: Feb 24th 2013 at 2:00:04 PM

That seems really unnecessary. And I'm tired of people ripping off the Arkham games

MrMallard Since: Oct, 2010
#14543: Feb 24th 2013 at 9:10:06 PM

I'm sick of hearing about games being done like other fucking games.

Sonic is Sonic. There are several modes of play for the series. If you rip a whole fucking playstyle out of a more popular or "playable" game and slap Sonic in it, you're ripping a part of the series away. But I don't give half a shit about that. My beef is that most of the ideas fucking suck. MGS and Sonic SHOULD NOT MIX, that sounds like a TERRIBLE idea. Oh, Arkham Asylum was fun, let's make EVERY OTHER FRANCHISE JUST LIKE IT. And don't get me started on the fucking "Skyrim" ideas some people spray all over the place.

Some of the ideas I've seen in this thread are fucking disgraceful, and for the MOST part bad ideas. I could accept Sonic Team taking a new direction in game making, but I don't see them ripping off the play mechanics of another game or series because that's really fucking dumb.

edited 24th Feb '13 9:10:47 PM by MrMallard

0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#14544: Feb 24th 2013 at 9:12:11 PM

[up]Dude, calm down, it's just video games.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#14545: Feb 24th 2013 at 9:13:21 PM

Take a deep breath, mang...

I don't like some of the ideas either, but perhaps finding somewhere else to take out your anger would be best?

MrMallard Since: Oct, 2010
#14546: Feb 24th 2013 at 9:21:27 PM

I'm sorry, I'm just really stressed.

But seriously, Sonic would be horrible as an Arkham-style game. From what I've played of Arkham Asylum, Batman handles like a cow-carcass being dragged around on a hook. Sonic's emphasis is speed, and the combat in the Sonic series has never really been about smacking your foes around: it's more about dispatching them as you go through the level, like "outta my way bitch I got an egg to fry".

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#14547: Feb 24th 2013 at 9:23:22 PM

Wouldn't fighting enemies fit very well for Knuckles in general, though?

And well, he did as a Werehog, but... yeah. That turned out terrible(how is he super weak compared to what Sonic can do damage-wise? I mean, I know that the enemies were powered up by Dark Gaia... but still, that's a bit too hard to swallow).

MrMallard Since: Oct, 2010
#14548: Feb 24th 2013 at 9:29:57 PM

Ehh, the Werehog wasn't too bad. I have the PS 2 version so the levels are shorter, but I actually preferred sticking to the werehog levels because it was easier to maneuver and just a lot more fun to play.

When cornering as Sonic, it just felt really, really stiff. Yeah, there was the grind you could do, but that wasn't exactly easy to master and I usually lost a lot of momentum when I did it.

I'm cool with Werehog mode, but a whole game like that? nothnxbai.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#14549: Feb 24th 2013 at 9:34:21 PM

I thought the idea was to have multiple modes with various chars similar to Sonic Adventure...

My thought is;

  • Sonic: Regular fast platforming, with a few bit of forced control sections, but not a lot or to ridiculous degrees either.
  • Tails: A much slower character, he can use a few Gadgets, but generally flies more with Platforms, and has some Vehicle gameplay.(kind of like Shadow did in 06, but better)
  • Knuckles: Both Treasure Hunting and some fighting levels. Could be combined in a few levels as well.
  • Amy: Slower platforming, but mostly escape and sneaky gameplay. She'll still keep her basic moves of Hammer stuff, as well as Invisibility to make it easier.

If we had more characters, I could see Espio or Rouge specifically get into places in a similar vein to Snake, minus some weapons. Last one, not sure. I'd say Big, but nah. Fishing didn't work out well.(now, if it was fixed...)

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#14550: Feb 25th 2013 at 4:36:29 AM

I need this in my life.

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