Portrayal of Lesbians VS Portrayal of Bisexual Women:

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Why are the two often portrayed differently? Lesbians, of course, get the Girl-on-Girl Is Hot factor, but female bisexuals are portrayed sometimes as more "desirable." I can guess as to why, of course, being the latter myself.

In the story I'm writing, I try and portray both as equally as possible, but with social constraints. Lesbians, in my historical setting, were by and large ignored (as long as they could still fake it with a man to carry on his family line.) Bisexuals, however, tend to have to keep themselves in the closet, for fear of being told to "choose" or actually do have to choose one gender to remain with.

What are your thoughts on that, in terms of realism, and what do you think of the way the two groups are portrayed in media and in general? Do you have portrayals (or real-life examples) of your own?
2 SandJosieph23rd Feb 2011 02:23:27 PM from Grand Galloping Galaday , Relationship Status: Brony
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Because men can have sex with bisexual women?
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3 Barkey23rd Feb 2011 02:26:23 PM from Bunker 051 , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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^^

Two Words:

Possible Threesome.
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bitchy queen
Gay/Bisexual women are equally sexually exploited in the media. So yeah, it's the possible threesome factor. Bisexual women are perhaps more desirable because the possibility of a threesome increases. Although lesbians are sort of "forbidden territory" so perhaps they are just as desirable.

Bisexual men are almost nonexistent. Go figure. >>
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I dunno, I keep hearing that bisexual women = sluts riddled with ST Ds.
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bitchy queen
Depends who you talk to. Someone here mentioned awhile back a study that indicated about half of men wouldn't care if their girlfriend cheated on them as long as it was with another woman.
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7 SandJosieph23rd Feb 2011 02:39:36 PM from Grand Galloping Galaday , Relationship Status: Brony
Bigonkers! is Magic
Even if their girlfriend eventually leaves them for said woman?
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bitchy queen
Well, here's the article if you'd like to see it.

^ Probably not. Some of the people in this study probably weren't thinking things through.

edited 23rd Feb '11 2:42:45 PM by snailbait

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9 Pykrete23rd Feb 2011 04:20:33 PM from Viridian Forest
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"Would forgive a transgression" isn't exactly the same as "wouldn't mind", though I suspect there's a lot of threesome hopefulness in that.

Also if that's the study I remember the sample space was entirely college kids, which thank goodness isn't too representative of all men.

edited 23rd Feb '11 4:21:28 PM by Pykrete

10 Barkey23rd Feb 2011 04:54:30 PM from Bunker 051 , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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I wouldn't quite call that mindset cheating, more like "If you get a little crazy and fuck your female friend, I can live with that." Take pictures!
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^ Yeah. I think the first reaction would probably be an awkward "did you take pictures of this terrible transgression?"
12 Barkey23rd Feb 2011 05:20:41 PM from Bunker 051 , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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I DEMAND A FULL INCIDENT REPORT, WITH THE CLOTHES AS EVIDENCE AND PHOTOGRAPHY AND/OR VIDEO!
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Also I think it is a time honoured tradition to fantasize having two wives who also do each other.
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I assume part of that is that some of these men won't even consider their girlfriend as leaving them for/loving another woman. There seems to be this idea floating around that bisexuality is all about sex rather than love (hence the "they're sluts with ST Ds" idea).

What about considering Gay men and Bisexual men?
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To Drakyndra: Mmm, you're right. I try to avoid that, especially since I've got a Medieval setting and the existance of STD's would be impossible to prove at that time.

They're there, all right. My protagonist (the female-leaning bisexual) is a Yaoi Fangirl, and in her work as a prostitute (in Medieval Japan), sneaks around on her nights off to watch the older men and feminine young men have their fun. I try to portray that realistically, too, but...that I can't say I have much experience with. They exist in my story, don't worry - they just don't get as much limelight as my main female pair. Good suggestion, though. smile

To others: I'm fully aware of the threesome possibilities (and I use them to pull a Mind Screw on the bisexual woman's husband when he catches the two lovers together - it crosses his mind, as does Girl-on-Girl Is Hot, but is quickly replaced with, "but she's still cheating, dammit, even if it is hot!" [lol] Is there anything else that can be thought of? grin Anything?
Failed Comic Artist
I forget, is there any real media stereotype for bisexual men?
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I don't think it comes up much. It seems mostly to be poor or campy stereotypes of gay men instead.

I've personally never held much of an opinion bisexuality (because I just can't fathom why you need to give a shit) and as far as media goes, I don't think I actually encounter it much. The only show I watch that features a bisexual protagonist is "Lost Girl", which is a Canadian show that has a bisexual succubus. I think the only reason she is bisexual is pure fanservice for all the awesome sex she can get into. The only thing I was worried about in that show was that they would treat her relationship with the lesbian character to be less than that of the heterosexual guy. While on one part, the sexual relationship between the protagonist and the guy is obviously more front-centre and important, they at least treat the lesbian relationship with some kind of care. It's disappointing they didn't want to have two equally well developed relationships.
18 Bur23rd Feb 2011 07:17:28 PM from Flyover Country , Relationship Status: Not war
The only one I can think of is that he can't be monogamous because he'll always want to also bang someone of the sex he's not currently with and just won't be able to stop himself.

Oh wait... that's the one I run into in real life. "He divorced his wife because he's bisexual." Lolwut. No, sister mine. The woman you're describing to me is a selfish, shallow she-beast. That's why he divorced her.

edited 23rd Feb '11 7:20:29 PM by Bur

Failed Comic Artist
Ah yes, so both bi men and women share the same stereotype of being insatiable sex addicts who wants to fuck anything with even a trace of body heat?
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20 Acebrock23rd Feb 2011 07:20:33 PM from So-Cal , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The only one I can think of is Depraved Bisexual
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21 Barkey23rd Feb 2011 08:20:10 PM from Bunker 051 , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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In Media I pretty much look at bisexual men the same way I look at gay men, then again being straight, they are just other males to me, who happen to like it in the butt.
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22 drunkscriblerian23rd Feb 2011 10:35:22 PM from Castle Geekhaven , Relationship Status: In season
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I forget, is there any real media stereotype for bisexual men?

..that they're pretty much gay. At least in the media I've seen.
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23 joeyjojo23rd Feb 2011 11:02:23 PM from South Sydney: go the bunnies!
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I forget, is there any real media stereotype for bisexual men?
emo teens are fairly popular as well.

edited 23rd Feb '11 11:02:43 PM by joeyjojo

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24 Morven23rd Feb 2011 11:08:10 PM from Seattle, WA, USA
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It seems to be the stereotype that bi men are either depraved perverts or gay but not willing to admit it to themselves yet.
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25 joeyjojo23rd Feb 2011 11:22:53 PM from South Sydney: go the bunnies!
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It's more common with women but there is a common stereotype that bisexual men are just trying to be 'edgy'.

Zachary Quinto plays such a character in the short lived sitcom Off-Centre.

edited 23rd Feb '11 11:28:42 PM by joeyjojo

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