Anarchy or communism for the next 100 years?

I'll take Anrcho-Communism, for 1000 Alex.

Anarchy. Communism tends to turn into exploitative hellholes.

Anarchy. Maybe I'll finally get to hunt deer and climb kudzu vines... If only for a day, I'd still be happy.

@OP: I'll take Anarchy. It hasn't been given a fair chance.

^^

But you can hunt deer now. O_o

Communism. I want the giant tanks with two barrels, mind-controlled squid and the bomb-dropping airships.

Anyway, aren't people kind of missing the point here? The whole point of pure communism is that there isn't an oppressive dictatorship, just a collective regime of peace and love.

edited 22nd Feb '11 6:10:47 AM by pagad

Both ideas are retarded, and any system that relies on peoples good nature is doomed to crash and burn. Next!

Post-scarcity!

Yeah, but it doesn't really go well when people don't care about peace and love.

edited 22nd Feb '11 6:29:21 AM by Yej

Anarchism isn't really a rejection of order so much as it is the rejection of the social contract as the basis for society.

I don't which of these I would choose, because I really can't imagine how we would function without a state and social contract.

Communism. Although I'd prefer Democratic Socialism, which is what my current political beliefs are...

Anarchy, unreservedly.

People always go on about anarchy being nonviable because of man's predatory nature; I say that's a great argument in favour of anarchy. If humans are so predatory, why trust any of the fuckers with centralized power?

edited 22nd Feb '11 9:47:43 AM by MRDA1981

Anarchy if things get bad enough that it's required in the US!! And they will...

Communism- ONLY if everyone is willing to put political prejudices aside and do what Communism is supposed to do- support the community and everyone in it. Those who work harder benefit more, because they want it more, but give equal opporutuinites to everyone either way. That's what Communism/Socialism really is and a lot of Americans are mislead on this truth.

Bottom line- I recommend Anarchy to fix all of the American Govt's current BS and to help get my nation back on track - but only for a short period. If Anarchy thrives, crime runs rampant, resources lack severely or disappear completely, gang rule becomes ther only form of law and order, and people kill each other over stuff you can easily buy at the store...

Thank you for reading this...

Speaking as someone who's firmly on the side of Order when it comes to Order Versus Chaos, I think I probably rate fascism over anarchy when viewed as opposite extremes. I know that Anarchy Is Chaos is not true, but I believe that devolution into chaos and the total destruction of society would be an inevitable side effect of having no structured leadership.

@ Barkey: Yeah, but I'd have to deal with driving out to the middle of nowhere, get a hunting permit, etc. >__<. I should be able to do it whenever I feel like it and wherever I can.

So you mean I should be able to hunt deer in Los Angeles?

SWEET.

That's the idea, yeah. Although I don't think there'd be a large deer population in Los Angeles unless there was a huge reduction in human population... which anarchy would likely result in... so yeah.

Makes me think of how Will Smith was hunting a lion in NYC in I Am Legend.

I get annoyed when I see people posting about "how fun it would be with anarchy". Its the same idiots who think they would survive a zombie apocalypse because they watched Zombieland. Aside from the Tropers with actual survival and military training, we'd all die, okay? Our heads would be on a warlords pikes within a week.

Only in the straw version of anarchy.

Which seems to be what this thread is about so whatever.

Why does it have to be about the straw version?

Unless you found a way to come to California and join my warband. Your job can be putting heads onto pikes.

Anarchy would definitely be more fun, but leading a rebellion against a Communist government a la 1984 could be cool too, sans failure of course. Either way, I eventually get to topple the existing order (or lack thereof) and declare myself king!

Why does it have to be about the straw version?

Because Bomb-Throwing Anarchists is inundated enough in pop culture for other forms to be unknown.

^^^ Nah, its cool. Scandinavia will just regress into vikings and start raiding coast cities instead.

^^ No, you would not. You'd die cluthching your own intestines spilling out of your stomach, or die of disease and starvation in a ditch somewhere without society to help. Aint anarchy great?

edited 22nd Feb '11 12:35:47 PM by SilentStranger