Could I get a vote on trope definition please?: Even Nerds Have Standards

Is this trope about people a fandom consider more nerdy then themselves, or people a fandom doesn't like? Because I'm having trouble accepting that hardcore World Of Warcraft players consider themselves less nerdy then casual players. A lot of these examples seem to be in descending order of Nerd Cred rather then descending order of the degree to which the actions are nerdy.

On an unrelated matter, it seems like some of the examples on this would fit better under Hypocritical Humor rather then this.

Edit: crap, the courtesy link's bad. Anyone know how to fix it, or delete this?

edited 31st Jan '11 10:09:31 PM by revolverzanbolt

Those examples were dubious from the beginning. Those seem more like Broken Base or Fandom Rivalry. I say prune those.

Is it just me, or does this use "nerd" in a far more derogatory manner then pretty much the entire rest of the wiki? Instead of just the self-deprecating Most Tropers Are Young Nerds tone we normally see, here it's purely an insult. May be part of why so many of the examples don't seem to fit.

Perhaps this should be renamed "Fandom Hierarchies" or something. Note that "nerd" does not equal "fandom member"!

edited 1st Feb '11 12:21:00 AM by nrjxll

I got that feeling too. The whole business of intra-fandom-hatedom seems petty, contentious and pointless. I'd suggest stripping it back to in-work examples.

No, this is more supposed to be the "I'm a nerd, and I think you are acting like a worse nerd" trope. If it's getting confused for a hierarchy, that should be split off or removed (and take the picture with it if it's causing the confusion).

For that side of it we've already got Stop Being Stereotypical.

No, this is not "stop making us nerds look bad".

This is... inter-fandom battlefield.

Which should be another trope, if it's not already Fandom Rivalry.

I mean, this page I imagine will see a lot of bloodshed. I'd stay away from there.

Name/description should be less aggressive. Fandom Hierarchy implies there really is a hierarchy. Perceived Fandom Hierarchy is mouthful. Hmm.

I feel like I need to go scrub myself after having read that evil page. That's something that /b/ would write up.

Hahaha, yeah. Felt like something you'd find at Encyclopedia Dramatica.

Well assuming we a throwing the tier part out, and leaving in just that someone is nerdier and called on it, let's see some better description proposals.

What a hateful little page.

I'd prefer just in-verse examples. There's no need for real life example of something that is inherently insulting.

And that description definitely needs a rewrite.

edited 1st Feb '11 12:56:18 PM by Scardoll

Supporting in-universe only.

Okay, the examples go over the line, but the description was merely meant to, well, describe why this is so. Again, if that doesn't work, could you offer a fixed description instead of just saying it's bad?

Anyway, I cut the examples that were not directly referencing that nerds have standards. That help?

In-Universe objective trope.

Which is what I cut the examples to.

I'd say we're done here.

Although I'm still wondering who came up with this... thing... in the first place.

lots

I disagree — the very title Even Nerds Have Standards smacks of Stop Being Stereotypical. It was a component of that vile brew.

edited 1st Feb '11 5:07:37 PM by Camacan

I am for changing the trope name.

Also, tailor the description so that it fits the new, objective meaning. Banner needs to go.

Normaler Than Thou?

The name actually fits with Even Evil Has Standards, which I based the name on. A villain character sees something too villainous for him/her/it, so a nerd character sees something too nerdy for him/her/it.

Also, I'll move the picture to the nerd index, to make the hierarchy thing totally gone from this page.

I'm aware that it's a Snowclone, but it somehow implies that there is actually a hierarchy of nerds, where some nerds of less depraved variety will consider it below them to engage in lower practices of nerdery.

While the actual trope seems to be about some nerds (In-Universe) thinking their shit smell better than some other nerds'.

edited 1st Feb '11 9:01:38 PM by Catalogue

How about Less Nerdy Than Thou?