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"Why Chinese Mothers Are Superior" lol:

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She most certainly didn't address my problem, which is an extension.

Once again, if that kid had a learning disorder or something else organic that was making it difficult for them to do that, her attitude would have done nothing except destroy that child's self-esteem.

edited 13th Jan '11 5:18:40 PM by Clevomon

Her with the hat
[up]I was about to add that link.

Yeah, she's claiming that the article is a bunch of book excerpts taken out of context, and that it ignores the parts later on in the book when she realises she was wrong.
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104 Grain14th Jan 2011 04:28:15 AM from South Northwest Earth
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Um the article mentioned that Western parents don't ever call their kids a disgrace getting a B. That's a DAMN good thing they don't because yelling at your kids and calling them names is child abuse.

lol
"I didn't steal it; I'm borrowing it until I die."
Insulting your children continually is abusive telling them off is a different matter, and is nowhere near as serious. Say your mother calls you "fatass" when you aren't and it gives you some body issues? Is that not abuse of some kind?

And it is still (at the least) really crap to continually insult a creature that is 1. The product of you and someone you presumably liked at the time and 2. One that you (presumably) have helped to raise.
107 BlueNinja014th Jan 2011 07:55:15 AM from The Middle of Nowhere , Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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You, sir, have besmirched the honor of my dear violin.
Having played both, I'll stick with the viola. It's bigger.
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108 storyyeller14th Jan 2011 08:03:33 AM from Appleloosa , Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
And there's a lot less competition, because Chinese people don't know it exists. On the other hand, you virtually never get a solo.
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109 Bur14th Jan 2011 08:08:09 AM from Flyover Country , Relationship Status: Not war
Which is a shame... violas have such a lovely rich tone that makes me quiver with envy even though I did manage to find a pretty mellow violin.

I wonder which things tha author admitted she was wrong about.
110 snowfoxofdeath14th Jan 2011 10:30:51 AM from San Francisco Suburb
Thou errant flap-dragon!
Viola parts in an orchestea usually suck, though, except for the solos. I'm a violin player, so I feel for her daughters.

Anyway, Asian parents insult thwmeir children to motivate them to improve. Therefore, it should be done infrequently if at all.
111 JackMackerel14th Jan 2011 01:44:48 PM from SOME OBSCURE MEDIA
^ Well, my mother rarely insults me. If anything, they like to nag. A lot. As the article established.

112 snowfoxofdeath14th Jan 2011 02:28:58 PM from San Francisco Suburb
Thou errant flap-dragon!
^ My parents call me stupid when I get grades below an A- or screw things up. My mother in particular likes to call me useless and lazy. I guess the nagging could be seen as caring, except... annoying. Actually the woman who wrote the article can be shown as someone who cared about her children but took things way too far.
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I think the woman definitely loved her child, which doesn't change a damn thing. Love Makes You Crazy after all.

It's also a neurotic love. "My child isn't going to be good unless I make her good."

There's also the issue of what's going to happen when the mother isn't dominating their life? How will they react to freedom? No one falls further than an angel.

edited 14th Jan '11 2:58:37 PM by Malkavian

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114 Ponicalica14th Jan 2011 05:54:51 PM from facing Buttercup
There's also the issue of what's going to happen when the mother isn't dominating their life? How will they react to freedom? No one falls further than an angel.
I remember hearing that a lot of the people raised like this basically end up doing in college most of the things teens raised more permissively do in high school.
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I know some Asian guys who got sent to college to be premeds or whatever, and then when they had finished, went back to college on their own to study the things they actually wanted to study.
116 TuefelHundenIV14th Jan 2011 07:00:09 PM from Wandering. , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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Poni: I knew a few some did fine but most I knew once they realized someone wasn't always harping on them went a bit crazy. For parenting I say Semper Gumbie is the way to go always flexible.
"Who watches the watchmen?"
One of my friends just stayed the same and became even more convinced in Jesus.
118 TuefelHundenIV15th Jan 2011 04:14:59 PM from Wandering. , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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I liked the linked article posted a bit earlier. Read it folks.
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119 Cojuanco15th Jan 2011 06:08:00 PM from Irvine, CA, US
Student
My parents exhibited this attitude in high school, if not literally, in spirit. Going out with your friends or even volunteering in the Theatre Club? Forget it. It was all about getting to a UC or Harvard or Thomas Aquinas (you know, the school that only accepts about 1% of applicants). Study, Study, Study! was their mantra.

And yes, oftentimes they do this to one-up all the other parents. I guess it's a family-honor thing.

Though comparing with what I've seen from my friends, it seems to be an immigrant thing than an Asian thing. In their eyes, the reason these so-called underachievers can afford to relax is because they're privileged by growing up here - they think that their kids can't afford such things socially, and so they pressure you to study so you can rais children that do have this privilege.
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Well growing up poor in North America isn't much better then being poor in China. Espcially if the piss-off regime of doctors here doens't allow hundred of doctors trained in Asia not to work.
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121 JackMackerel15th Jan 2011 08:35:55 PM from SOME OBSCURE MEDIA
It's not an immigrant thing, though. See: amount of cram schools in Korea, Japan, China, SE Asia...
Proud Canadian
[up]Yes, it' been part of Chinese culture and by extenson East Asian culture for thosands if years.

I hat she says "Not all Chinese arents are like that", but then she says she doesn't like the "Western" parenting of unlimited choice. Not all white parents are like that.
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123 JackMackerel15th Jan 2011 09:12:24 PM from SOME OBSCURE MEDIA
124 BalloonFleet15th Jan 2011 10:46:33 PM from Chicago, IL, USA
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Yes, it' been part of Chinese culture and by extenson East Asian culture for thosands if years.

I'd say that is exxageration. While there has been a stronger focus on literacy that seems extreme to say

Or black parents, too. Or...

Just wait until the subject of beating their childrens ass comes up.....I mean oopsie xD

edited 15th Jan '11 10:48:00 PM by BalloonFleet

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125 Cojuanco15th Jan 2011 10:47:55 PM from Irvine, CA, US
Student
It's true to some extent, and gives us the trope of the Education Mama.

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