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FlightMaster I was offered this world from Lair of the Beast Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#7626: May 25th 2015 at 9:18:55 AM

[up] Well, duh... the all-titles and SP multipliers kinda lose their impact after the last boss the game asks you to speedkill, because you are just getting your end-game strenght back. A boss selector would have been nice, if overkill.

Said Accels are still broken: an Overlimit + MA you can use anywhere on a game whose Overlimit system you can't quite control (out of Arcane Bottles) I don't know what to say about Malik. It seemed like Richard should have had the 'brutal melee combo' and the Cap the 'faster spells + CC recovery' effects... but it's the other way around!

Anyway. I GOT TO PLAY XILLIA 2! *childish glee*

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Ok, geez. It's a funny story. My partner went shopping this weekend and came home with a Day One Edition, sealed... for 30 EURO. Apparently the price had been slashed several times from its starting 65, but... 30 EURO, man. Goddamm LUCK! We played for some 5 hours and he's already concocting Wild Mass Guessing facts on his own. Me, I am looking forward to play the OBJECTION game where I point out the Blatant Lies being told by the Trial's participants.

edited 25th May '15 9:31:50 AM by FlightMaster

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#7627: May 25th 2015 at 1:59:20 PM

[up]No doubt you were staggered by Ludger's vociferous nature, no?

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FlightMaster I was offered this world from Lair of the Beast Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#7628: May 29th 2015 at 3:26:55 AM

Oh? Ah, well, let's say I am no stranger to Xillia 2's plot, so I already know that Ludger lacks a voice because Victor stole it. 'Voicing Ludger would have given the SUPER PLOT TWIST away like, super early'. Come on! They don't sound, much less LOOK like each other. Like Yeager / Regaey.

I almost forgot: my partner's conclusions on Graces PS 3:

  • Friend: Liked the graphics (impressive, as it was an upscaled Wii game.) the music (some memorable tracks) the fast and flashy battle system, the sidequests / skits (great humor there.) the Mixer gimmick (most of it...) and a meaty yet not as-annoying-as-thought postgame. And ACCEL MODE! (Cheria's is like, a beta for Ludger's Chromatus, right?)
  • Me: What did you dislike then...?
  • Friend: Let's say the plot relies on the heroes being stupid for 70% of the game. Room for more playable chars (like Victoria, Poisson or, of course, Emeraude.) The Dualize system was either useless or Too Awesome to Use, depending on how far you were in the game. Weakness system only favors Asbel or Malik. No aerial game. The A arte tree should have worked like Neptunia's (four slots where you can equip any unlocked arte.) Levels were inconsequential, and new titles are not unlocked fast enough.
  • Me: Your crazy predictions for Xillia 2's plot?
  • Friend: Ludger and Elle are totally related. Sister is my bet. Julius will be the rival / realist to Ludger's idealist (he will become a Well-Intentioned Extremist and will have to be defeated.) Bisley is so much Pro-Human in the Human-Spirit war that he's Disc 2 Final Boss material (Alexei, yeah. The Final Boss will be a spirit.) Rideaux is this game's Yeager (Except that Yeager cared for his teenage ninja girlies, Rideaux looked like a CHILD ABUSER when threatening Elle.) He will be the 'Repay Debt Ending' boss. As for the old Xillians... feels like they are along for the ride, but will be the 'unbalancing' factor in this war (Ludger will 'win' because he befriended people not chained by his Kresnik bloodline.)

edited 29th May '15 3:33:36 AM by FlightMaster

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
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#7629: May 29th 2015 at 3:35:11 AM

Yeah he's way off the mark about Julius

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FlightMaster I was offered this world from Lair of the Beast Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#7630: May 31st 2015 at 9:14:35 AM

After a lot of playing we finally got Ludger's unique skill and destroyed a Frac Dimension willingly, earning the Temporal Blade waymarker and a trophy.

Catalyst Rowen was cake. A mage can't hurt you if you gangbang him with 2-3 chars and set the other to heal! I can count the amount of spells he landed with Captain Hook's right hand. Get it? [lol] Anyway. Was Catalyst Volt supposed to be... difficult? Like Wake-Up Call Boss? I know he hits like a train and Paralysis is nasty, but Bubble Blast > Mortar Fire deals with him nicely. Maybe we were just lucky. (Now I predict an otherwise easy boss will give us hell in return...)

Same can be said about Catalyst Muzet. Hungry Hunter > her. Well, Hungry Hunter > any kind of Muzet, really. (We will fight her again in the arena, in yet another Frac Dimension, and in the Bonus Dungeon...) Bitch made us waste a lot of ítems, but we won. We beat Chronos... on MODERATE! GO US! (We kinda forgot to put the difficulty down after getting levels...) Fucker deserved the beating. And more.

At this point I am trying to educate my partner about the Trial's rules without spoiling much. (Thanks to that Tales Translations Tumblr) You can judge the plot a lot better when you are not being fed heavily biased half-lies by a Corrupt Corporate Executive.

edited 31st May '15 9:18:12 AM by FlightMaster

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
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#7631: Jun 1st 2015 at 8:40:35 AM

I thought Alt-Volt was easy really. Then again I jumped into X2 right after X1 so.

And Alt-Muzet was annoying. On a New Game Plus thoguhyou can retain Freezing Eruption so HA i beat the system

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TheMageofFire Magical Girl in Training from A Warehouse Out by Sea Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#7632: Jun 1st 2015 at 1:02:56 PM

Speaking of Xillia, I'm starting my first run of the first game to go along with my RPG Summer. And thank god I'm back to a more classic version of the battle system after the failures in my attempt to learn Graces' system.

Got up to the seahaven and I'm loving the shop upgrade system the most along with the link attacks.

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
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#7633: Jun 1st 2015 at 2:00:19 PM

I never really liked the shop upgrade thing tbh, it meant less money for actually buying shit.

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Alfric Sailing the Skies! from Crescent Isle Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#7634: Jun 1st 2015 at 4:39:40 PM

You don't really need to use money to upgrade shops though. Upgrading with materials is way faster and generally pretty effective, especially if you take advantage of the multipliers for certain shop types, since the materials aren't really used for anything else. Since every field screen is loaded with stuff, there's not much to worry about in terms of getting the necessary materials, so long as you grab the treasure and material spots.

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SapphireBlue from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#7635: Jun 1st 2015 at 6:56:52 PM

[up] Seconded. I never upgraded shops with money.

danna45 Owner of Dead End from Wagnaria Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#7636: Jun 1st 2015 at 9:08:29 PM

X2's shop system was much more boring anyway. I like how X1 did it.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#7637: Jun 2nd 2015 at 6:26:06 AM

I kinda hate having to wander around everywhere because store inventories are different. Kinda wish the series would do away with it, but unfortunately Zestiria didn't and I still have to warp all around the world to get the equipment I need.

Graces is trolling me these days.

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
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#7638: Jun 2nd 2015 at 6:44:09 AM

Wait they accounted for Critical Blade whiffing?

Also yeha I guess personal taste is why I didn't like X1's shop upgrade thing.

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Alfric Sailing the Skies! from Crescent Isle Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#7639: Jun 2nd 2015 at 7:34:47 AM

That critical blade whiff thing looked weirdly awesome.

As for shops, I admit having to go all over the place to find stuff can be annoying, but I don't mind it in the games where they let you check the shops inventories on the world map item, like Symphonia or Abyss.

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
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#7640: Jun 2nd 2015 at 7:44:21 AM

No need for words she speaks with her whiffs

Graces had that shop map thing too

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#7641: Jun 2nd 2015 at 7:45:46 AM

Who's ready for a PS 4!Zestiria announcement at Tales Of Festival 2015?

MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
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#7642: Jun 2nd 2015 at 7:49:30 AM

I'm ready for a Steam!Symphonia announcement.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#7643: Jun 2nd 2015 at 7:53:27 AM

I think Sophie is supposed to get behind the enemy when they're in a corner, but something went wrong there so she was positioned in a way that Critical Blade bounced off the wall. And yet I still got the max number of hits...

I think every game has let you check shop inventories so far (Zestiria does it with Rose and Sorey's personal skills), but the constant moving around just annoys me.

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
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#7644: Jun 2nd 2015 at 7:55:13 AM

I see. Kinda clever.

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Alfric Sailing the Skies! from Crescent Isle Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#7645: Jun 2nd 2015 at 7:55:26 AM

I vaguely remember it in graces now that you mention it (though I didn't use it much if at all), but I cannot for the life of me remember Xillia 2 having that feature.

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#7646: Jun 2nd 2015 at 10:19:00 AM

[up] Every game from Symphonia onwards (that has been localized, of course.) has had that option. Xillia 1 doesn't because every shop is the same. (Insta-delivery online shops? Crowdfunded We Sell Everything merchant?)

Seconding (Thirding?) the opinion on Xillia 1's shop system being the best. It was addictive, even. Xillia 2 goes back to Symphonia / Vesperia's old boring synthesis. (Please, don't ever do anything like Din's Shop again!)

@ Lordoflore: I am ready for a 3DS Rebirth... shame it won't happen.

@ Lu: I recall you having the complete Symphonia Chronicles. Why aren't you playing DOTNW instead of going through Graces again? (I guess same reason as why you dumped Legendia... but what do I know.)

Just finished doing Gaius' then Muzet's main chapters. 'Erston' now is much more likeable, in and out of battle (he plays like a superior Alvin: better heal arte, faster, good range and Calamity Stance: Al can't survive swarms, His Majesty can!) Muzet may be the best black mage. Warp + Hidden Target: she does her job better than squishy Rowen or Milla (but playing Milla as a black mage is wrong anyway.) Also, she isn't a bitch like her Catalyst (or Xilia 1) self. waii

edited 2nd Jun '15 10:26:54 AM by FlightMaster

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#7647: Jun 2nd 2015 at 10:51:15 AM

Why aren't you playing DOTNW instead of going through Graces again?

Bunch of friends decided we must all solo the entire game with a different character. I got Sophie, which is the easiest one since she's the most powerful character by far.

Also, no one beats Rowen. Poor Muzet lacks a good toolset in Xillia 2.

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#7648: Jun 2nd 2015 at 12:07:17 PM

Bunch of friends decided we must all solo the entire game with a different character. I got Sophie, which is the easiest one since she's the most powerful character by far.
That actually sounds like fun. I feel sorry for the guy who got stuck with Malik, though.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#7649: Jun 3rd 2015 at 11:31:39 PM

The guy who picked Malik actually wanted him cause he really likes him. [lol] Plus he's the status effect king. The least optimal character to solo with is Cheria but even she can destroy the game~

None of us wanted Asbel or Richard though, so that fabulous pairing is sadly going to fall by the wayside.

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FlightMaster I was offered this world from Lair of the Beast Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#7650: Jun 4th 2015 at 1:20:45 AM

[up] Muh? Enemies would sooner die to the Cap's spells than fall to their status effects. Only problem I see with Malik's solo is that he has NO WAY of healing himself with artes / skills. Hub has Heal Wind, Pascal has Shine Field... even Asbel has the sword sheathing HP recover, small as it is. Richard is the same, but it would be interesting only to see Richie fight himself at various points. tongue

edited 4th Jun '15 1:21:50 AM by FlightMaster

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