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 1 Kinkajou, Fri, 24th Dec '10 5:45:20 PM from you're not your
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Especially in Europe, except in the USA, where it's as strong as ever?
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Military glorification is the cause.

edited 24th Dec '10 5:56:13 PM by CommandoDude

 3 Tzetze, Fri, 24th Dec '10 5:58:33 PM from a converted church in Venice, Italy
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Are you getting this sense from polling or what?
 4 Kinkajou, Fri, 24th Dec '10 6:11:21 PM from you're not your
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No, I'm getting this from smug Europeans.
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You do realize that most Americans aren't as patriotic as they are stereotyped, right? In fact, most people I have run into make fun of the United States at nearly every opportunity they get.

You know, what? I don't think Americans are especially nationalistic. There. I said it.
 7 Tuefel Hunden IV, Fri, 24th Dec '10 6:29:30 PM from Wandering. Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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Funny i seem to recall a recent trend in rising nationalism in Europe.
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 8 Clarste, Fri, 24th Dec '10 6:38:12 PM Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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You have to remember that America is absurdly split. Every election is ridiculously close. So, at the very extreme, only half of Americans are anything and the other half hates them.

In general, Americans tend to be more comfortable with nationalism because the idea of American nationhood is (usually) rooted in political ideals rather than ethnicity (or even culture).
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 10 Kinkajou, Fri, 24th Dec '10 6:40:10 PM from you're not your
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That's the illusion the "winner-takes-all" system creates, actually.
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 11 storyyeller, Fri, 24th Dec '10 7:28:23 PM from Appleloosa Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
^^^ Another thing that confuses the issue is that many Americans are highly devoted to the idea of America but think that the government (or more specifically the elected portion of the government) is horrible.

edited 24th Dec '10 7:28:42 PM by storyyeller

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 12 Commando Dude, Fri, 24th Dec '10 7:33:21 PM from Cauhlefohrnia
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^ much of America is unable to differentiate that politicians are not the government. In addition, much of America was brought up under anti-communist propaganda designed to convince them that more "Government" will lead to the USSR or something.
 13 storyyeller, Fri, 24th Dec '10 9:18:49 PM from Appleloosa Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
Except that polls show that people like members of the government on an individual level. It's just "Government" in general that they hate.
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Well, Americans tend to be more nationalistic because America is the best country in the world, of course.
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Being proud of a country you were coincidentally born in seems kind of odd to me. Please don't flame me for saying that... I'm an American myself, but I'm far from nationalistic. Not sure if that makes me a small minority or not.
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 16 Best Of, Fri, 24th Dec '10 10:45:27 PM from Finland Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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Funny i seem to recall a recent trend in rising nationalism in Europe.

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 17 Scrye, Fri, 24th Dec '10 10:54:23 PM from North Carolina/Maryland
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except in the USA, where it's as strong as ever?

You're kidding, right?
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"As strong as ever" is most certainly wrong, but there do seem to be more nationalists in America than most other first-world nations.
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 19 Eldritch Blue Rose, Fri, 24th Dec '10 11:30:44 PM from A Really Red Room
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@ OP: What is your source?  *

edited 24th Dec '10 11:36:32 PM by EldritchBlueRose

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Dude. The right wing and nationalists are going up strongly in Europe. It's not very pleasant. Do your research first.

 21 Game Chainsaw, Sat, 25th Dec '10 5:41:42 AM from sunshine and rainbows!
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I know Britain isn't very nationalistic. (Well, not as Britain... go to Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland or England itself for that matter and its another story in regards to nationalism within the country. We're too divided amongst ourselves I guess.) Elsewhere though that really doesn't apply. Especially in Eastern Europe, which is fiercely nationalistic. And I believe the other major European states are very nationalistic as well.

Its a shame, because if there's one thing that Europe needs less of, its stupid divisive nationalistic tendencies. Seems the only thing we learned from WWII is that its not worth fighting about.

edited 25th Dec '10 5:42:56 AM by GameChainsaw

Believe me, nationalism is dead in Germany. You might find people (like me) who are proud of what Germany achieved in the last 65 years but thats it. And frankly, I don't see any reason why we should be sad about it. Nationalism leads only to war, I'm glad we have finnaly understood this.

edited 25th Dec '10 6:35:17 AM by Zarstro

 
I guess it's as good a place as any to point to this low hanging fruit.  *

[up] Only? Frankly there is nothing to stop the next(?) Big Bad from adhering to anti-nationalism or cosmopolitanism. Assimilate!
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 24 Stormtroper, Sat, 25th Dec '10 11:24:09 AM from somewhere Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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Being proud of a country you were coincidentally born in seems kind of odd to me. Please don't flame me for saying that...

Your country is where you were raised (and presumably born in) and formed you into what you currently are, it's only natural that people become attached to it even if they had no choice in the process. To a different extent, it's like how people tend to be attached to their own families.
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No, I'm getting this from smug Europeans.
We have become a lot more more douchebaggy in the last decade, have we? Sorry for that.

Nationalism is still very much alive and kicking in Eastern and Eastern Central Europe. Poland is especially infamous for this nowadays (they married their culture to the "victim card").

Edit: To answer the thread title: "because modern communication brings the people closer together."

edited 25th Dec '10 11:46:41 AM by DasAuto

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