Old Spongebob vs. New Spongebob (Phoenix Wright Style)!

I must agree that Mr. Krabs was kind of Flanderized pre-movie as well. Just not in every episode. Howzabout we list all the episodes in which nothing Mr. Krabs does involves money? Copy and paste my list and add episodes to the "pre-movie" or "post-movie" sublists for the sake of neatness and completeness. Add notes in parenthesis if you wish. I've come up with an example for both time periods, but correct me if I am wrong.

PRE-MOVIE: "Sailor Mouth"

POST-MOVIE: "Shell of a Man" (I like this one enough to pretty much fit it in with the pre-movie canon, personally. Also, yes, SpongeBob makes fun of Mr. Krabs' greed on one part, but it counts because I'm pretty sure Mr. Krabs himself is not interested in money this time.)

Season 2 is best. Hands down.

PRE-MOVIE: "Sailor Mouth" "Wet Painters" "Squilliam Returns" "Band Geeks" "Hooky" "The Algae's Always Greener" POST-MOVIE: "Shell of a Man" "Grandpappy The Pirate" (Technically "Plankton's Regular" since money isn't Mr. Krabs's driving force, and there's no obsession with money otherwise.) (I suppose "One Coarse Meal" is the same way)

Since it's getting somewhat long, please bold new entries.

PRE-MOVIE "NO MONEY" EPISODES: "Sailor Mouth," "Wet Painters," "Squilliam Returns," "Band Geeks," "Hooky," "The Algae's Always Greener," "Pranks a Lot (though there is a borderline example when the 'ghosts' attempting to burn his dollar is when he decides to throw the water, but I think we can forgive that)"

POST-MOVIE: "Shell of a Man," "Grandpappy The Pirate," "Plankton's Regular (not sure if this quite belongs here since this whole episode is about Mr. Krabs' obsession with getting all of the customers and therefore all of the money, unless he just really hates Plankton that much)," "One Coarse Meal," "A New Leaf (though, correct me if I'm wrong; I don't remember much about this episode, same with the following additions:)," "Best Frenemies," Truth or Square"

Ever notice that the episodes where Mr. Krabs is portrayed as irredeemably evil (i.e. Plankton's Regular, Patty Caper, The Krabby Kronicle, One Coarse Meal, The Cent Of Money) were written by both Casey Alexander and Zeus Cervas?

There are actually five movies (The theatrical one, Atlantis, Truth or Square, Square Roots, Legends of Bikini Bottom)

Whenever someone mentions The Movie for Spongebob Squarepants, they are mostly referring to the theatrical one. All other "movies" are really one-hour specials, and not truly movies. "Square Roots" is a documentary, not an actual movie from the show. "Legends Of Bikini Bottom" is a marathon consisting of newer episodes, and once again, not a movie.

edited 30th Mar '11 7:19:38 PM by WolfMan16

None of those are movies; they're overhyped half-hour episodes. Except for "Square Roots," which is still not feature length. It's a documentary.

there's a trope for that.

SpongeBob is not anime, and they never called any of those "movies," either. If "Atlantis Squarepantis" is a movie; every episode of every show that does not use the Two Shorts or Three Shorts format is a movie.

Yes, but they're not theatrical like the first movie. They are episodes expanded well enough to give room for more airtime due to the length of the plots. "Square Roots" is a film, but it's a documentary. "Legends Of Bikini Bottom" is a marathon consisting of six new episodes. How could you think "Legends Of Bikini Bottom" is a movie?

edited 30th Mar '11 7:33:02 PM by WolfMan16

The poor quality of the new ones is an attempt to convince nick to cancel the series, i think. Hold It!

edited 30th Mar '11 8:01:29 PM by miru

They won't cancel it. Somehow it still attracts huge audiences.

Yeah. I wonder how in the hell could they stop it from happending?

Make an episode that's actually good? Or maybe target it to an adult/teen audience and not a kid. Nick will fucking rape and try to kill any shows not sent to the 7-11 demographic.

Rape and kill? Well thats not exactly a good example...

I now believe the episodes that suck after the movie are any episodes made by Casey Alexander and Zeus Cervas, especially the way they portray Mr. Krabs. That, and a few other episodes such as "Penny Foolish" and "Keep Bikini Bottom Beautiful".

Nickelodeon actually doesn't rape and kill shows for older audiences; it does one or the other. And that only applies to animation. They'll try to market live-action juvenile shows for older audiences, and either push for cartoons to be overly childish or cancel them. Periphery Demographic shows like SpongeBob and Invader Zim are good examples. The former raped; the latter killed.

edited 2nd Apr '11 12:04:43 AM by That897Guy

It does do both: Danny Phantom.

True, but DP's drop in quality was tame compared to other shows like Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents

I don't know how long Spongebob is going to last before it gets killed. If that's a possibility.

I dont know why, but i guess it could be Season 10? Or maybe 11. But no more.

Depends on if Nick will ever let go.

Also I admit my thing is too far. I was thinking of how Avatar the Last Airbender was treated by Nick and of course the movie.

Although it is amazing how much they got away with as far as ATLA goes.

Which is part of the reason adults liked it and Nick seemed to hate it. Seriously if kids didn't love it just as much as we do the show never would have ended. CANCELLATION!