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That's what turned people off on VOY and ENT. The Captains are trying to be Jethro Gibbs but instead of bucking the system, they run roughshod over their own people to preserve it. It is dumb.

And fans who don't know any better blame Roddenberry. But the box was gone. TNG and DS9 were experimenting to see how the Federation rulebooks would work in practice, and the ethics of all that. Mistakes were made, but at least Trek was feeling its oats.

As I keep telling my Trekkie friends, I find it very hard to believe that the very same teams that came out with late-season TNG and DS 9 can fuck up so badly with VOY.

We do not talk about ENT.

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Couldn't have put it better myself.

edited 27th May '15 11:58:18 AM by johnnyfog

Next exosquad.

Elaan of Troyius

Also, June Schedule (COMICS refers to a 12 part special Chuck is doing on the rise and fall of the comics empire):

• 2 Jun: Full Moon 10
• 4 Jun: COMICS 1
• 6 Jun: ENT: North Star
• 9 Jun: Atlantis: The Storm and the Eye
• 11 Jun: COMICS 2
• 13 Jun: TAS: One of Our Planets is Missing
• 16 Jun: Madoka Magicka: Rebellion
• 18 Jun: COMICS 3
• 20 Jun: DS9: Far Beyond the Stars
• 23 Jun: Moontrap
• 25 Jun: COMICS 4
• 27 Jun: VOY: Homestead
• 30 Jun: The Iron Giant

...

The fact he stops to try and have serious debate with Samus riding Yoshi

Ooh Far Beyond the Stars. One of my fav DS 9 episodes.

I like it as well. Though it's really weird for me to see Micheal Dorn out of makeup.

I had hoped Homestead would be the final Voyager review. Seemed like a good note to end on.

edited 30th May '15 3:06:24 PM by Druplesnubb

Is it North Star or Lone Star?

edited 30th May '15 3:11:02 PM by WillKeaton

North Star. And it sounds like a real piece of shitwork.

Oh, geez. When he said there would be cowboys in the next episode I thought he was talking about "Spectre of the Gun," as in a TOS episode about cowboys. But an Enterprise episode about cowboys? Have we learned nothing in the past 35 years?

Specter Of The Gun was like a Twilight Zone ep, surreal and eerie. It's how The Q and the Grey should have been done:

• the Sufficiently Advanced Aliens are aping human history in A Form You Are Comfortable With.

• The music sells the alien menace.

I would have given The Q and the Grey a title like "Revolution" (which is what De Lance's Q was trying to do) and have the, let's call'em "Status Q" forces dress in quasi-Nazi uniforms with crossed hammers. Yes Pink Floyd did it but it was aopted by online gaming as well and I'd use hammers like the Smith's hammer not a claw hammer. Q's forces would be dressed like the French resistance: rag tag group in random 20th century clothes. Primary colors (R,G and B) stained with "blood" and soot from the Q's weapons.

The battleground? Old Fort Ord, long since abonded (and used in The Matrix reloaded). The famiily housing area would do nicely: the Q Continum reduced to a ramshackle existence, doors missing or hanging off hinges, windows missing, all patrolled by humanoids in Black uniforms welding guns that are part WWII and part 50's sci-fi.

edited 30th May '15 4:36:45 PM by TairaMai

After watching A Fist Full of Datas, I realize now that the TNG showrunners missed an opportunity. There could have been a sequal comic titled For a Few Datas More....

...I'll get my coat....

edited 30th May '15 11:30:30 PM by TairaMai

That'd never work. "Data" is a plural noun already.

Given that there's 2 of them in the movie, that's my new title for Nemesis.

More adventures of an orphan.

Comic History part 1 (apparently not a record of humanity's funniest moments)

"CONTINUITY ALERT!!!!"

wait...

Gentlemen We just bought Superman! -upon buying Marvel-

edited 4th Jun '15 7:52:56 AM by FrozenWolf2

Never mind, I found it it: Captain Molecule by the Divers.

edited 4th Jun '15 8:34:23 AM by NateWinchester

North Star

Trek is weird.

Atlantis 2 parter special.

I don't care what Chuck says, a Robocop musical would be AWESOME.

Also, it's weird that Shepard seems to almost justify the late Star Trek religious interpretations of the Prime Directive. "We cannot violate it less the Shepard rise up and smite us."

edited 9th Jun '15 4:38:56 AM by NateWinchester

Well to be fair

Most of the time ironically its not The SG refuses to help innocent bystanders who are about to die out of some misguided to prevent an unseeable outcome

SG runs into people just as concerned about looking after #1 as they are and are more then willing to do anything to gain an advantage or their attempts to help go horribly wrong... right... Rodney

or does come off as horribly amoral good intentions or not Micheal can attest to that

SG-1 comes across two warring tribes. One side is more like us than the other side. SG-1 arms and reenforces the more familiar side. It's like every planet is Afghanistan.

It's ethical stuff like this — heroes are good because they're the heroes — that you have to overlook if you watch Stargate.

It's more an Atlantis thing than an SG-1 thing.