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NhazUl Since: Sep, 2011
#3326: Mar 1st 2013 at 6:51:41 PM

[up][up] This is traditionally Bumblebee's role (granted, here he's mute and his theme is linked to overcoming his limitations). If Smokescreen was to be just the immature kid, he would've been there from the beginning. I cannot agree that delivering a single Omega key is the sole purpose of his arrival to Earth. (I don't like him either, though. Like I've said, he's the Cybertronian version of Miko with a phase shifter.) And yes, he will have to change in order to become a strong leader. Hopefully, if they go this way, he will grow up more like Beast Machines Cheetor and less like Hot Rod.

edited 1st Mar '13 6:52:58 PM by NhazUl

WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#3327: Mar 1st 2013 at 6:57:55 PM

You know just on principle I would like to see humanity actually handle the Decepticons on their own. I mean didn't the original Transformers comics tie into the Marvelverse? Avengers, X-Men, the Fantastic Four... their assorted allies and enemies. Specifically Magneto the guy who can control metal...

edited 1st Mar '13 6:59:07 PM by WorldTurtle

ArcanGenth Since: Aug, 2009
#3328: Mar 1st 2013 at 6:59:01 PM

Me Grimlock no Prime.

Me Grimlock KING!

WorldTurtle Since: Jan, 2011
#3329: Mar 1st 2013 at 6:59:44 PM

[up]I am hoping to see the Dinobots though.

edited 1st Mar '13 6:59:53 PM by WorldTurtle

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#3330: Mar 1st 2013 at 8:15:49 PM

Smokescreen obviously has a greater role to play, that's not the argument. The thing is that grooming a character to take over as leader requires them to demonstrate leader-quality traits from the beginning even if they have a lot to learn. One of the issues with Hot Rod is that leadership was forced upon him by fate and he did very little to earn that privilege, in fact it makes perfect sense why Optimus chose Ultra Magnus initially because he demonstrated noble leadership qualities even if he was just a humble soldier. But the movie didn't let him be a good leader because he wasn't The Chosen One.

My guess is Smokescreen will come to occupy either a strategist role or become The Lancer as part of his character development.

SpaceJawa UTINNI! from Right Here Since: Jan, 2001
UTINNI!
#3331: Mar 1st 2013 at 9:13:09 PM

I vote for Grimlock Prime. Just because.

Seconded [lol]

Chadaman99 Hmmm Mmmm Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Hmmm Mmmm
#3332: Mar 1st 2013 at 11:12:06 PM

Tough choice. But I wouldn't mind seeing a female Prime. So yeah Arcee.

No wait a human Prime. Jack you're an honorary Prime sssssssssoooooooooooooo.

Live your life.
SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#3333: Mar 2nd 2013 at 12:31:03 AM

Hey, if he would die off for good without coming back by market executive request, it REALLY would be a twist :P

Azryth Since: Apr, 2010
#3334: Mar 2nd 2013 at 5:32:58 AM

I have two scenarios about the death of Prime in this series.

First: They will pull a Beast Machines and Optimus will sacrifice himself at the end of the series and we will have a new autobot leader.

Second: We have a new Prime just long enough to recover the Forge and have the new Prime fix Optimus with it.

Ether101Prime Since: Jan, 2001
#3335: Mar 2nd 2013 at 10:06:49 AM

I really hope this means that the Dinobots, Ultra-Magnus, Kup and Hot Rod are going to show up.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#3336: Mar 2nd 2013 at 11:28:11 AM

Rumor is the Dinobots will show up, which would work perfectly with the Beast theme of the season. Ultra Magnus is a favorite to appear, especially since he already has several toys (Kup's toy was obviously an Ironhide design).

ArcanGenth Since: Aug, 2009
#3337: Mar 2nd 2013 at 2:23:54 PM

Kup? What Kup toy?

Do you mean that green "Jungle Ironhide" that came out in the US? tongue

KZN02 Since: Nov, 2009
#3338: Mar 2nd 2013 at 5:35:06 PM

Meh, there's still the chance Ultra Magnus can't deal with that right now.

edited 2nd Mar '13 5:35:21 PM by KZN02

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#3339: Mar 2nd 2013 at 8:19:09 PM

[up]

He need to learn. He never able to deal with something like that right now.

When can you deal with it Magnus? When can you deal with it?tongue

One Strip! One Strip!
KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#3340: Mar 2nd 2013 at 10:09:52 PM

Well I got the Beast Hunters Smokescreen, if it wasn't for the kibble on the arms (most of the hood and roof) it would be a near perfect Transformer. It's fairly obvious it was designed before the Beast Hunters line and all it has is some extraneous features to make it line up with the rest of the line. But the base vehicle mode is gorgeous.

Ether101Prime Since: Jan, 2001
#3341: Mar 3rd 2013 at 3:09:35 AM

Elita One needs to show up too.

KZN02 Since: Nov, 2009
#3342: Mar 4th 2013 at 5:53:24 PM

[up][up] The review I watched complained about the color, the feet, the armor, and the difficult transformation, but said it was an overall good set compared to the Arms Micron repaint of Knockout.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#3343: Mar 4th 2013 at 11:30:46 PM

I'm overall just happy he got an original mold that has a decent range of articulation and can be posed well. Kibble is to be expected but the fact it isn't all put on his back (ironically making him unnaturally skinny rather than the norm) is a plus in my book. I would prefer the arm kibble to go on the back and the weird looking feet to look a little more clean (it has a flipper look to it). If I was to rank all my Prime figures:

  1. Deluxe Wheeljack: Near perfect, only complaint is the windshield kibble could fold better into his arms.
  2. Deluxe Soundwave: Limited articulation but has an excellent mood about him.
  3. Voyager Starscream: Great physical representation in both modes but the reliance on splitting the vehicle mode for the transformation makes it feel flimsy (notches pop out of place).
  4. Deluxe FE Bumblebee: Arms are weak and there isn't much to stabilize the torso, but looks good.
  5. Deluxe FE Vehicon: Some restrictive kibble but some great paint apps and a good design overall.
  6. Deluxe Smokescreen: Awkward kibble and feels very flimsy mid-transformation but looks very solid in both modes.
  7. Deluxe Ratchet: Would prefer a Voyager class version but still a well designed toy.
  8. Voyager RiD Bulkhead: Some bits and pieces could have been made to be more eloquent (the wheel "wings") but overall a good representation of the character.
  9. Deluxe RiD Arcee: The only problem is the cumbersome wheel hanging off the back.
  10. Deluxe RiD Cliffjumper: Too much of a backpack and has awkward gorilla arms.
  11. Deluxe Knock-Out: Would prefer some paint operations and a little more detailing, it's a rather hollow figure but not horrible.

IronScope STOP. RESETTING. MY. DISPLAY. OPTIONS. from Somewhere Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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ArcanGenth Since: Aug, 2009
#3345: Mar 6th 2013 at 7:26:04 AM

...
0_o

Do not know if love or hate...

On the one hand, he looks hideous.
On the other, I have this mental image of pompous little Knock-Out, stalking out in the wild and hunting down a crocodile. All for the sole purpose of having a fabulous new jacket/vest.
>_<

...

Screw it, I welcome our new fashion overlord, Croc-Out. ^_^

edited 6th Mar '13 7:26:47 AM by ArcanGenth

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3346: Mar 6th 2013 at 12:01:35 PM

Request for help

Pardon for the sudden interruption, but there is an edit war/argument going on on here about whether Transformers: Prime is Black-and-White Morality, Morality Kitchen Sink and Black-and-Gray Morality. Please weigh in.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
KZN02 Since: Nov, 2009
#3347: Mar 6th 2013 at 12:53:36 PM

[up][up] I've seen Knockodile as a nickname.

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
Mad Scientist Wannabe
#3348: Mar 6th 2013 at 4:15:50 PM

[up][up]It's pretty black-and-white to me.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
Chadaman99 Hmmm Mmmm Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Hmmm Mmmm
#3349: Mar 6th 2013 at 4:20:21 PM

Megatron and Co. bad. Optimus and Co. good.

Live your life.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#3350: Mar 6th 2013 at 5:06:11 PM

The Grey part could come from the previously corrupt autobot regime...

It was an Autobot regime wasn't it? I know that Megatron's crusade didn't begin in a vacuum.

One Strip! One Strip!

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