Warhammer 40,000

Not legally, the Inquisition supersedes all Imperial laws and regulations; the only organizations that can defy them and (maybe) get away with screwing with big I openly are the Marines and the Mechancius. And entire Chapters have been purged for murdering an Inquisitor and getting caught.

Any Commissar that shoots an Inquisitor who isn't blatantly a heretic (by Inquisition standards, you can't just shoot most Radicals) will be lucky to get away with a quick death.

There's also the religious imperative; Imperial citizens are taught that Inquisitors are the voice of the Emperor; to defy them means condemning your soul. So some Commissars might see an Inquisition as having the right to sacrifice any amount of IG assets to fulfill some shadowy objective. And even those who don't see the military necessity of such an act will likely accept a theological justification (the Inquisition is always right because they speak for the Emperor) because they've been raised to accept that since childhood.

edited 7th Jun '16 7:25:42 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

Depending on the fluff, even an Inquisitor can't execute an Inquisitor. In some instances they have to present their evidence to a Conclave.

Heck, even with the Astartes only the First and maybe Second Found chapters can get away with it.(Okay, and maybe a Grey Knight if there's a clear case of possession) and that's only because of their connections to the original Legions and the Primarchs. And the fact that the other First Founding Chapters will back them up on principle... and that means the Smurfs will call in their successor chapters.

perhaps the Custodes as well? you do NOT fuck with the Custodes, they are literally closer to The Emperor than anyone else, with many of their current number having fought alongside Him during The Great Crusade

edited 8th Jun '16 3:27:54 AM by FieldMarshalFry

advancing the front into TV Tropes

And some of the other First and Second Founding Chapters will call in their own successors, too. The Blood Angels are no slouches in the number of successors, though certainly far from the numerousness of the Ultramarines' own scions.

Yeah, that seems to be more or less an unwritten convention across the less-fanatical members of the Inquisition AFAIK, regardless of the exact specific form that the actual "procedure" may take. I think only the most overzealous and inflexible of Monodominant Inquisitors would actually execute a "heretical" Inquisitor (by their own standards) on the spot.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

Oh yeah, the Custodes could honestly go on a crusade against the Inquisition and no one would bat an eye, because the Custodes know the Emperor's will.

They are the only group exempt from the Inquisitions Mandate.

Most Radicals who go too far but don't get destroyed by their own toys or killed resisting capture get trials. And they often get aquited according to fluff.

edited 8th Jun '16 8:46:50 AM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

Well, the only group that's de-jure exempt from the mandate. In practice, the high authorities of the Adeptus Terra can potentially defy the Inquisition and live to tell the tale, though the groups most likely to pull that off are, as mentioned, Space Marines and the Mechanicus.

Space Marines, in addition to having a lot of respect from the Imperium, also have an ability to Appeal to Force with the Inquisition. So while it might not be technically legal for them to interfere with the Inquisition, the Inquisition would probably need a pretty good incentive before attacking Astartes.

"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"

With marines is one of the few times the inquisition said "please" as Astartes tend to be petty with their pride

And inquisitor vs inquisitor depend more or influnce that anything else consider in theory, they dont have ranks

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

So I was listening to this

And I thought of Mad Max Fury Road. And I asked myself: what if George Miller directed a 40K film? How amazing would that be?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

easy, imagine fury road but with orks instead of warboys, and....that it your typical WH 40 K story

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

It probably helps that:

1. The Appeal to Force factor involves more than just the specifc Chapter(s) that (particular elements within) the Inquisition may want to censure (as noted previously, there's an "one for all, all for one" bond between the majority of Chapters despite their differences, especially if the transgressor is impinging on things that all of them agree upon as the right of any loyalist Astartes Chapter, such as Chapter autonomy).

2. There are influential Inquisitors out there who have a positive relationship with one or more particular Astartes Chapters for one reason or the other, sometimes even to the point of a life-debt owed by one party or the other. It's not outside the realm of reason for a coalition of such Inquisitors — especially the ones subscribing to the pro-stability ideology of Amalathianism — to set aside any and all differences between them for the time being and unite their voice and effort against those Inquisitors that threaten the integrity of the former group's mutually-beneficial relationships with Space Marines. Or to sum it up, the looming threat of Inquisitorial War over the issue would act as a strong deterrent against escalating things for all but the most frothingly uncompromising of Puritans... who would be but a minority at most that can thus be marginalized or even isolated and "dealt" with without instigating a full-blown civil war.

edited 8th Jun '16 3:01:09 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

Also, with inquisitor, Astartes are VERY secretive bunch and make sure their heresy can be done with swiff response before they got out, things like wulften, black rage, the unforgiven are held in closet debt

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

@Handle

Bullshit. That audio's far too kind and gentle to be from a Donald Trump Rally.

Regarding the "commissar executing an Inquisitor" thing. Just do what the Catachan do to dickhead commissars - He died from "enemy" fire.

Individual Commissars don't have the political support that comes down on you like a Hive's worth of bricks. And fragging a constantly diligent, paranoid individual who likely has a few bodyguards and a refractor field is a bit more difficult than nailing a guy with a slightly better pistol and a wicked hat.

And the video is completely misleading, Trumps is clearly a worshiper of Slaanesh.

edited 8th Jun '16 5:44:30 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

Individual regular Commissars, yes. But Lord Commissars and Commissar-Generals are a thing, you know.

edited 8th Jun '16 6:32:18 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

Yeah, they're a thing, but a rather rare thing. Gaunt for example is only a Colonel-Commissar but he's an oddity in the Imperium.

Meh, I find trumph your avarage planetary governor actually, just change mexican with mutant and arab with heretic(because let face, what is what trump is really saying) and call it a day.

one question: we know IG use old military as their expy, is there any particular one you want to see in game? I would like a japanise IG, the closet thing I imagine is empire of rising sun in DW

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

For todays 2nd Edition Thursday: Hiding

At the end of the Movement Phase, any infantry models that were in cover, or behind an obstacle that could conceal them, could choose to hide as long as they didn't run, charge or suffer from some sort of random movement. Terminators, cavalry and vehicles couldn't hide. If part of a squad then the entire squad must go into Hiding, you couldn't just hide a few members.

While Hidden, models couldn't be seen, shot at or targeted by enemy models in any way until the model shoots or moves (unless it is moving through concealing terrain such as along a wall). When they become Hidden, the player placed a Hidden counter next to the unit to indicate this. Enemy models could spot Hidden models by moving within a distance equal to their Initiative value (so a Marine would have a Spotting distance of 4"). Once spotted, Hidden models could be fired at by the enemy. Rather than being Spotted, Hidden models could also be Detected by models using a Scanner or some sort of special rule. When a Hidden model is Detected the player flips over the Hidden counter so that it now reads Detected. Once Detected, Hidden models can still not be targeted or shot at directly but can be fired at by area effect weapons such as flamers, grenades and the like. When using such weapons, they are fired as normal but any Detected or Hidden models under the template are only hit on a D6 roll of 4+. This is also how Hidden models are effected by scattering templates.

Hidden models can enter Overwatch ^note fire at the first model/unit that moves within their fire arc

edited 9th Jun '16 2:06:03 AM by SebastianGray

Somebody please do the jokes.

I know, right?!

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

@Librarian: The Commissar-General is a regular rank within the Commissariat, not a special position like Gaunt's. It's the highest rank in the entire organization.

edited 9th Jun '16 6:04:00 AM by CaptainCapsase

Not to be confused with General-Commissar, which was a special position like Gaunt's.

I don't understand this part.

edited 9th Jun '16 8:12:20 AM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."

If a model is hiding in terrain it can move within that terrain and remain hidden but will lose its hidden status if it moves out of said terrain. In the instance of the wall, if a model is hiding behind the wall then it will remain hidden if it keeps the wall between it and the enemy as long as its entire move keeps it in base to base contact with the wall.