No 40K thread yet? I'm surprised. Nay, shocked, shocked I say to discover there's gambling going on in this establishment...
I'm eagerly anticipating the imminent 5th Edition release, personally, but I was interested to know if anyone here plays and has a differing opinion on it. There are certainly plenty of people out there who seem to think that 40K 4th edition "only just" came out and that a new edition isn't needed. Anyone?
Warhammer Fantasy (including Age of Sigmar and WFRP) has its own thread here
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Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:37:34 PM
Mighty No. 51345
Official Report: [Insert Chapter] Space Marines dropped a Tactical Team on Cattikill IX and routed the entire 10,000 Ork horde with the assistance of a single Custodes. There were no casualties.
The Truth: 10 Marines, 1 Custodes, 500 Ad Mech and 6,000 Imperial Soldiers fought a grueling campaign of attrition before nuking the battle-site from orbit. Three of the Salamanders are being fitted for Dreadnoughts. The fifteen surviving soldiers are executed for seeing the Custodes.
edited 12th Jan '18 8:37:48 AM by Zeromaeus
Mega Man fanatic extraordinaire
Oh, bother.
One wonders if the addition of the Primaris Marines is giving the regular Astartes a taste of what the rest of the Imperium's forces have had to put up with all this time.
Disgusted, but not surprised
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Doubtful-the gap between Astartes and Primaris is much smaller than between Astartes and Guardmen of most regiments. And the Custodes might be able to do that-When the Emperor took to the field to kill the Ork Warlord Blackfang, he deployed a thousand Custodes to deal with hundreds of thousands of Blackfang's best, biggest orks. At a cost of only 3 Custodes, they cut down 100,000 of some of the biggest, best equipped orks alive during the Great Crusade in the space of a few minutes. 10 Custodes probably could kill 10,000 orks and survive, though losing a few of their number.
edited 12th Jan '18 9:08:51 AM by ViperMagnum357
Oh, bother.
Was the Emperor actually on the field with them? I can't help but think that made a difference too.
Yes-and like most of the time he took to the field, he had a specific enemy leader in mind, though his presence certainly would have helped a great deal. Also that thousand he deployed with would have included his Companions and weighted heavily to the veteran Custodes Castes, so 'average Custodes' would be less efficient.
That said, such was the quality of the ork horde that they had Horus, Dorn, Mortarion and most of their respective Legions on the ropes and about to be wiped out before the Big E stepped in. And keep in mind there is nothing in the 41st millenium that can hold a candle to some of the Orks during the Great Cursade; the larger Ork Warlords are described as being larger than battle tanks, and closing in on Stompa size. Part of the reason the Emperor retired from the front line was the strain of the Astronomican left him vulnerable, to the point where one Ork Warlord nearly killed him in single combat. The Beasts might have been the largest and most impressive Orks in history, but the Great Crusade era greenskins were a terminal threat and not much less impressive.
edited 12th Jan '18 9:30:06 AM by ViperMagnum357
Oh, bother.
It would seem that the changes in status quo lately are in the direction of warfare returning to that scale. We've got stronger Marines, more direct involvement from the Chaos Gods, the return of the Primarchs (Loyalist and Traitor alike), a new Eldar faction led by a nascent god, and even the rise of a new Beast.
edited 12th Jan '18 9:50:04 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised
◊ quite
◊ a few
◊ artworks that do that.
Reminder: The Thing is referred to as a Blob Monster on This Very Wiki, and the latter two pictures look very similar to some of the forms it takes.
Field Marshal of Cracked
and through it all the Imperial Guard will continue to hold the line....
Oh, bother.
All we need now is for the Necrons to rediscover Men of Iron and their reality breaking weaponry.
Disgusted, but not surprised
And discover only the Void Dragon could possibly control them-too bad, ol' Voidy has thrown in with Humanity.
Kinda. Sorta. 
edited 12th Jan '18 9:14:43 PM by ViperMagnum357
Reminder: The Thing is referred to as a Blob Monster on This Very Wiki, and the latter two pictures look very similar to some of the forms it takes.
I meant Spawn that looked like the non Chaos Spawn pics I linked to, none of which look like the ones you linked. As for The Thing, I have never seen the film and have no idea what that looks like or how it fits the trope.
Knowledge is Power, Guard it Well
Oh, bother.
While it's going off-topic, The Thing isn't so much a Blob Monster as it is The Virus. What it does is invade host bodies and performs Kill and Replace on the cellular level. It only shifts into more Body Horror forms like the occasional Blob Monster when it's outed as a Thing.
If you're curious, trust me — watch the original movie. It's got great practical effects and storytelling and it's Kurt Russell at his best. The much later made prequel and the game and the comics on the other hand...meh.
edited 13th Jan '18 12:14:51 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised
Interesting. The actual page for the film makes it sound a lot more like a Blob Monster than your description does:
The film has been on my To Watch list for a long time but I am not much of a Horror fan so I haven't got around to it yet. Also I always thought Big Trouble In Little China is Kurt Russell at his best.
Knowledge is Power, Guard it Well
Oh, bother.
Now that I think about it — is there something akin to The Thing in Warhammer 40k? Given all of the horror and sci fi movies and books Warhammer 40k draws from, I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least one horror based on The Thing. Probably something aligned with Nurgle.
Closest thing I can think of though, are gene-stealers. But it's not quite the same thing.
If Horror isn't really your thing, I can see why you'd prefer that movie. It's also one of the better John Carpenter and Kurt Russell movies, but it's definitely more comedic and lighthearted than The Thing. Word of caution if you do watch The Thing: if you happen to be a dog-lover...well, be ready.
edited 13th Jan '18 5:10:20 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised
I'm a cat person so am okay on that front.
Probably the closest non-anecdotal example related to the Thing would be the Simulacra, which eat the brain of an intelligent being; allowing them to shapeshift their body into the victim, complete with memories.
Oh, bother.
Simulacra seem a lot like Dn D Doppelgangers. Though Doppelgangers don't literally eat brains to mimic their victims. They just read thoughts (and then Kill and Replace them).
The Thing on the other hand seems to be a sentient colony of single-celled lifeforms. Each Thing cell is a lifeform unto itself. That's part of what makes it so damn dangerous. A single Thing cell will eventually consume and replace a host from inside-out and multiply until said host is just another Thing.
edited 14th Jan '18 4:33:12 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised
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Custodes go on pre-order this week and here is a preview of their characters.
Every member of the Adeptus Custodes is a hero in his own right. Each is a veteran of decades or even centuries of warfare, honed by constant training and the greatest wargear and gene-craft the Imperium has to offer. Each is a warrior, statesman, diplomat, historian, philosopher – a true heir to the lineage of the Emperor.
Some, however, go above and beyond even their enhanced brethren and are given the honour of Shield-Captain – commander of a portion of the strength of the Ten Thousand. Above them lies only the Captain-General, perhaps the most prestigious warrior in the entire Imperium.
The new Codex: Adeptus Custodes brings the Golden Legion to life as never seen before, delving deep into the military traditions of these renowned warriors and providing rules for them to match. One of the most requested units for the Adeptus Custodes, following their first release, was a dedicated HQ unit for the army – so we decided to give you four.
Every upcoming Adeptus Custodes kit has been cunningly designed so you can also use it to build an HQ option armed with the same wargear as his brethren. This means you’ll be able to take Shield-Captains in inviolate Allarus Terminator armour or mount them on fast-moving Dawneagle jetbikes.
However you choose to equip him, the Shield-Captain has a very impressive statline
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Strong WS and BS mean these storied champions are unlikely to miss, while Toughness 5 along with 6 Wounds makes them very hard to kill – especially when you factor in their excellent saves. Offensively, you’ll be able to choose from a wide array of wargear, from the classic guardian spear to the new castellan axe, a huge weapon that trades the AP of its predecessor for bonus Strength and idea for cleaving heretics in half. As for the Shield-Captain on Dawneagle jetbike, we’ll be taking a closer look at what these ancient war machines can do later in the week.
Trajann Valoris is the Captain-General of the Adeptus Custodes, making him one of the most powerful military figures in the entire Imperium, charged with defending the Sol System, Terra, and the Imperial Palace. First seen in Chris Wraight’s The Emperor’s Legion, this legendary figure is among the most proactive of the Adeptus Custodes, and is responsible for bringing the Golden Legion into a more aggressive role.
On the tabletop, Valoris has a statline and set of wargear and abilities to match his reputation, and is among one of the most powerful commanders any Imperium player can field. Valoris has a similar statline to his brethren, but wields a much stronger weapon in the Watcher’s Axe, an artefact that gives him five Strength 10, AP-3 attacks on the charge, dealing D3 damage apiece. This gets even deadlier when you take Valoris’ Legendary Commander ability into account – any friendly Adeptus Custodes within 6″ of Valoris (including himself!) re-roll hit rolls and wound rolls of 1.
Valoris is also armed with the Moment Shackle, an unusual relic of Dark Age technology which lends him some extra flexibility during your games. Once per battle, you’ll be able to pick a powerful one-time ability for Valoris, from fighting again at the end of a Fight phase to regaining lost Command Points.
Whether you’re looking for a particularly powerful bodyguard for your favourite Imperial character, a deadly assassin-type unit or the leader for your own shield company, Codex: Adeptus Custodes is absolutely packed with options – and we haven’t even looked at Warlord Traits, Stratagems or Relics yet…
Come back tomorrow when we’ll look at how the new codex has changed the Custodian Guard, as well as a powerful new ability shared by all of the Adeptus Custodes…
"Trajann Valoris is the Captain-General of the Adeptus Custodes, making him one of the most powerful military figures in the entire Imperium, charged with defending the Sol System, Terra, and the Imperial Palace."
So, it's Kitten?
Health sure is versatile. It's possible to be both light-headed and dim-witted. At the same time, no less.
Always 3:00am in the Filth
Exactly what I was thinking; Canon Kitten.
edited 15th Jan '18 9:04:52 AM by Rotpar
"But don't give up hope. Everyone is cured sooner or later. In the end we shall shoot you." - O'Brien, 1984
Could someone explain & ?
The Astartes aren't intended to hold planets. They're intended to conquer them while the Guard holds them.
That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.