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No 40K thread yet? I'm surprised. Nay, shocked, shocked I say to discover there's gambling going on in this establishment...

I'm eagerly anticipating the imminent 5th Edition release, personally, but I was interested to know if anyone here plays and has a differing opinion on it. There are certainly plenty of people out there who seem to think that 40K 4th edition "only just" came out and that a new edition isn't needed. Anyone?


Warhammer Fantasy (including Age of Sigmar and WFRP) has its own thread here.

Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:37:34 PM

BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#25526: Jan 16th 2017 at 11:23:05 AM

[up][up][up]Huh... that's kind of stupid imo, but whatever [lol]

But yeah. Anything else you'd recommend for a Khornate warband aside from what I've already mentioned?note 

edited 16th Jan '17 11:24:47 AM by BlackSunNocturne

SantosLHalper The filidh that cam frae Skye from The Canterlot of the North Since: Aug, 2009
The filidh that cam frae Skye
#25527: Jan 16th 2017 at 12:35:52 PM

Would Stens or AK-47s be a better Autogun base for an anti-Imperial rebel army?

edited 16th Jan '17 12:50:35 PM by SantosLHalper

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#25528: Jan 16th 2017 at 1:04:55 PM

[up][up] Heldrakes are a really useful investment for basically any Chaos Marine army. Chaos native anti-air is a) basically nonexistent and b) what there is, isn't very good (either horribly overpriced or just "buy thing with lots of shots, use spray and pray"). Heldrakes help shore up that particular weakness by flying around ripping enemy aircraft out of the sky.

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#25529: Jan 16th 2017 at 1:08:56 PM

[up]Any specific number? 'cause iirc, Heldrakes aren't exactly cheap, and as of right now I'd be looking at around 260 dollars worth of models with the Maelstrom of Gore and Start Collecting: Chaos Space Marines sets. [lol]

Also, I'll need to see if my FLGS has a copy of the Codex: Chaos Space Marines and Codex: Khorne Daemonkin. If not, I'll just ask for the owner to order them for me next time he does the orders.

edited 16th Jan '17 1:11:57 PM by BlackSunNocturne

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#25530: Jan 16th 2017 at 2:26:46 PM

IIRC, technically men have lots of x-chromosomes (as it's the default Chromosome shape). It's just one Chromosome that's "Y"-shaped.
Actually, that last bit is not even true. It's only called "Y" because the X chromosome is named after the letter "X", which is followed by the letter "Y"; apparently it's just pure coincidence that during mitosis, the Y chromosome "has two very short branches which can look merged under the microscope and appear as the descender of a Y-shape." (source)


On a different note...

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math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#25531: Jan 16th 2017 at 2:34:55 PM

Would Stens or AK-47s be a better Autogun base for an anti-Imperial rebel army?

I'd say Stens, personally. AK's being the Requisite Bad Guy Gun is kind of old hat.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
SantosLHalper The filidh that cam frae Skye from The Canterlot of the North Since: Aug, 2009
The filidh that cam frae Skye
#25532: Jan 16th 2017 at 2:41:11 PM

[up]

Well, they aren't quite bad guys (though neither are they good guys), I was mainly thinking of the AK-47's popularity amongst rebel groups (which they are, as I previously mentioned).

edited 16th Jan '17 2:42:22 PM by SantosLHalper

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CountDorku Official Tesladyne Employee TM from toiling in the Space Mines Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#25533: Jan 16th 2017 at 3:34:33 PM

@Nocturne: Welcome to the hobby.

Check what your local metagame is like. If everyone has flyers, you'll be wanting a Heldrake, two if you want the Terror Pack formation. If people have been avoiding it, you can give them time.

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#25534: Jan 16th 2017 at 3:50:26 PM

[up]I already know that its expensive as fuck [lol] That's why I liked the Horus Heresy box sets.

And okay, that makes sense. Heldrakes are an important purchase for the army, got it. Anything else or I can just wing it?

I do know one of the people plays Nids, and there's someone with Iron Warriors

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#25535: Jan 16th 2017 at 3:50:58 PM

Speaking of the hobby, I need to go out and buy myself some METAL BOXES in the near future. Foot infantry gets easily gunned down this edition.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#25537: Jan 17th 2017 at 6:06:41 AM

[up]sound cool, I bet the devolpers of Ao S are kicking thsemselves for no coming with that nameevil grin

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SebastianGray Since: Apr, 2011
#25538: Jan 17th 2017 at 6:11:07 AM

I've no problem with it other than te fact that I think it is a little Warcrafty, but that could be because I have been playing a lot of World of Warcraft lately.

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#25539: Jan 17th 2017 at 6:44:01 AM

But wasn't "Eldar" already a GW trademark??

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SebastianGray Since: Apr, 2011
#25540: Jan 17th 2017 at 7:23:30 AM

[up]I believe so and as they say on the page Elder will still be used, just as Sisters of Battle, Space Marines etc are still used.

edited 17th Jan '17 7:24:08 AM by SebastianGray

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theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world Since: Jul, 2009
That all you got?
#25541: Jan 17th 2017 at 7:45:19 AM

Technically GW did come up with that first. The elves in AOS are known as "aelves" already.

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#25542: Jan 17th 2017 at 9:11:52 AM

Actually, GW borrowed the name from Tolkien, as "eldar" was the ancestral name for the elves.

edited 17th Jan '17 9:12:40 AM by Willbyr

SebastianGray Since: Apr, 2011
#25543: Jan 17th 2017 at 9:37:15 AM

[up]I thought I had seen it elsewhere but I couldn't remember where.

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CountDorku Official Tesladyne Employee TM from toiling in the Space Mines Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#25544: Jan 17th 2017 at 10:32:57 AM

Yeah, it's Quenya, derived from the word meaning "star".

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#25545: Jan 17th 2017 at 10:48:19 AM

So wait... what's the point of the new name for the Eldar then?

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#25546: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:00:58 AM

It could be an attempt to indicate a greater faction, in the same way that "Armies of the Imperium" only really gained mechanical relevance recently.

Or it might just be that their lawyers have slipped their chains and are running around attacking passers-by and handing down ill-considered rename instructions again. It's hard to say for sure.

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#25547: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:44:18 AM

[up]Let's hope it's the former and not the latter then [lol]

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#25548: Jan 17th 2017 at 12:22:43 PM

You know, I have been wondering... How did GW avoid having the Tolkien Estate slap them with a copyright infringement lawsuit over the use of the name "Eldar"? Blizzard had to coin the term "Treant" as a solution for not being able to use "Ent" as a name for Warcraft's Expy of Tolkien's Plant Person race.

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BlackSunNocturne Since: Aug, 2013
#25549: Jan 17th 2017 at 12:37:07 PM

Probably because GW's lawyers are scarier than the Tolkien Estate's.

Also: Blizzard didn't coin the term Treant, that was Gary Gygax and TSR in D&D 1st Edition.

theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world Since: Jul, 2009
That all you got?
#25550: Jan 17th 2017 at 4:19:01 PM

Yeah, I didn't mean that GW had come up with the term, just that "Aeldar" was something that had basically already been implemented with AOS.

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