Those things had to happen to me. That was my destiny. But you'll understand soon enough that there are consequences to being chosen... because, destiny, John, is a fickle bitch.
Everything has its time and everything dies.
I think certain moments in time are fixed. Tiny, precious moments. Everything else is in flux, anything can happen, but those certain moments, they have to stand. And this base, on Mars, with you, Adelaide Brooke, this is one, vital moment. What happens here, must always happen.
It is written.
— Tamil Proverb
He defied the will of god, journeyed to the ends of the universe to escape the tyranny of the Plan. But predestination has no limits.
Ah, the pity of it.
Do not think I am unmoved, my sons. I have lived these lives again and again, I have endured these futile quests and escalating sacrifices; the turmoil that drowns out all love and hope and meaning —
Until the heart stops and the last breath dies in the last dry throat. It is a tragedy. All of it.
"Destiny waits, a darkness latent in the texture of the summer wind. Destiny will betray you, crush your ideals, deliver you into the same detestable Bürgerlichkeit as your father, sucking at his pipe on Sunday strolls after church past the row houses by the river—dress you in the gray uniform of another family man, and without a whimper you will serve out your time, fly from pain to duty, from joy to work, from commitment to neutrality. Destiny does all this to you."
You see, everything's fixed. History is all worked out, from start to finish. What the facts actually are
is beside the point; history just rolls straight over the top of them. You can't change anything because the changes are already part of it.
Not a whit, we defy augury: there's a special providence in the fall of a sparrow. If it be now, 'tis not to come; if it be not to come, it will be now; if it be not now, yet it will come: the readiness is all: since no man has aught of what he leaves, what is't to leave betimes?
Can't stop what's coming.
There isn't enough time. There was never
We're all puppets, Laurie. I'm just a puppet who can see the strings.
There is no future. There is no past. Do you see? Time is simultaneous, an intricately structured jewel that humans insist on viewing one edge at a time, when the whole design is visible in every facet.
: He should have just accepted things as they are instead of trying to interfere with destiny. You see, you can't interfere with destiny. That's why it's destiny. And if you try to interfere, the same thing's going to happen anyway, and you'll just suffer.
Church: "I learned a very valuable lesson in my travels, Tucker. No matter how bad things might seem-"
Caboose: "They could be worse."
: "Nope, no matter how bad they seem, they can't be any better, and they can't be any worse, because that's the way things fucking are, and you better get used to it Nancy. Quit your bitching."
"We have no specific destiny against which we can fight — for the fighting would be as much a part of the destiny as the final end."
"Hear me when I say, when I say, I believe/ Nothin's gonna change, nothin's gonna change destiny/ Whatever's meant to be will work out perfectly..."
—Avril Lavigne, Keep Holding On
Among the things Billy Pilgrim could not change were the past, the present, and the future.
"You're welcome to try to fight determinism, Steve, but my intuition is that you will fail."
"There are men who struggle against destiny and yet achieve only an early grave."
"There are men who flee destiny, only to have it swallow them whole."
"Then there are men who embrace destiny, and do not show their fear."
Malachi shrugged. He never understood the need humans had to try and find the reason behind everything. Surely it was just an infinite cascade of reasons that led back whimsically into the first moments of time itself? What were they going to do, go back and fix things?
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—Terezi "gallowsCalibrator" Pyrope, Homestuck
EB: but what does that mean!
AG: It means what it sounds like! He's already here!!!!!!!!
AG: Here in our session, trying to hunt us down! Man, this should 8e elementary to you 8y now.
AG: No matter what you or I or any of us did, Jack's here now. That's the reality!
AG: And if I didn't stop you, it wouldn't have changed the reality for us here. We'd still 8e hiding on this rock, and he'd still 8e out there, sniffing around for us.
AG: He wouldn't just disappear! That's not how this time stuff works.
—Vriska "arachnidsGrip" Serket explaining time to John "ectoBiologist" Egbert, Homestuck
CG: BUT WHAT ALL THESE LOFTY SYMBOLIC ALLUSIONS BOIL DOWN TO IS SOME GRANDER STATEMENT ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE HAPPENING HERE.
CG: THAT YOU WERE ALWAYS THE KEY TO SEEDING YOUR OWN EXISTENCE THROUGH THIS GAME.
CG: AND ANY HOPE THAT IT COULD HAVE PLAYED OUT DIFFERENTLY OR THAT YOU COULD HAVE AVOIDED THIS WHOLE MESS WAS ALWAYS JUST A RUSE.
—Karkat "carcinoGeneticist" Vantas explaining the so-called "ultimate riddle" to John, Homestuck
Scorpio - Saturn rising in your sign will subject you to the powerful force of Fate, which everybody knows is stronger by far than electromagnetism, gravity, or the nuclear strong and weak forces.
You're a fool, Critic
, a damn fool! You can't change your destiny, you can only choose to meet it! And you will fail.
Whatever you do, you will always end up here. Whatever choices you make, whatever details you alter, we will always end up—here. I win. So, I win.
The Newton Twins were the first to try to force the machine to be wrong. Both their tickets said Old Age
, so they committed suicide. Ten times they tried, and ten times they failed.
In the end, he could not escape the hands of fate.
…However, there is no need to pity him,
Because no one can escape. Not you, nor me…
"And I realized that I could never escape my terrible destiny. I had merely postponed it. History abhors a paradox."
No one can unmake the past. It already happened. There's no "undo." Similarly, the future already happened. We just haven't reached it yet.
: How can I see the future if it didn't already exist? Mulder
: Then if the future is written, then why bother to do anything? Clyde Bruckman
: Now you're catching on.
"God, from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass: yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin, nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.
Although God knows whatsoever may or can come to pass upon all supposed conditions, yet hath He not decreed anything because He foresaw it as future, or as that which would come to pass upon such conditions.
By the decree of God, for the manifestation of His glory, some men and angels are predestinated unto everlasting life
; and others foreordained to everlasting death
These angels and men, thus predestinated, and foreordained, are particularly and unchangeably designed, and their number so certain and definite, that it cannot be either increased or diminished"
"Say: "Nothing will happen to us except what Allah has decreed for us: He is our protector': and on Allah let the Believers put their trust."
"You thought to change history, Charles Xavier. Yet, if you knew this is the way it was, you must have known it is the way it would be
—Galactus, in X-men 90