Super Dimension Fortress Macross and its adaptation Robotech have a tendency to feature unlikeable characters whose arguments make sense.
- Lynn Kaifun is the series' Scrappy for his near-irrational hatred of military, extreme pacifism even when it does more harm than good, and Soapbox Sadie tendencies, and is often seen accusing the military of trying to extend the war and not understanding the situation they're in. While the soldiers on the SDF-1 hate the war just as he does, when it comes to the pre-Zentraedi Holocaust high command he's perfectly right, to the point that the first officer privately agrees with him and levies one of his points to the Spacy's commander, her father.
- Bodolza reacts to the peace talks by coming with his entire fleet and firing all guns at Earth first before even considering the deserters. Considering that Macross 7 revealed the existence of the Protodeviln, extremely powerful aliens with immense brainwashing powers whose existance was hid to most Zentraedi but not their Main Fleet commanders, he had all reasons to think it was happening again and glassing the planet was the only way to nip it in the bud.
- Kamjin is a violent Blood Knight, often seeking battle with the humans even when it doesn't benefit the Zentraedi, and tries to sabotage the peace talks under the justification that the Main Fleet will come and kill them all, both Earthlings and Zentraedi, if they catch wind of that. Not only does Breetai agrees with the latter point, but Kamjin is quickly proven right when Laplamis has the bright idea of informing the Main Fleet.
- During the Mars battle Kamjin shoots one of his own battlepods whose pilot decided to jump the gun and attack early, with their hidden force being exposed due the resulting explosion and a recon plane being sent to see what happened spotting the battlepods. As the entire plan depended on a gravity mine charging up enough to keep the Macross from taking off, the guy who tried to attack early almost caused it to fail, while Kamjin shooting it gained just enough time for the gravity mine to complete charging. Kamjin even understood why the guy attacked (and made sure to only wreck the pod and spare the pilot), but he knew better than attacking too early and risk the enemy just taking off and foiling the plan (and Global did try it as soon as it became clear the Zentraedi were there in overwhelming numbers).
- During the boarding of the Macross a soldier said he had seen there was a Minmay concert going on and suggested to go there, resulting in Kamjin shooting him on the spot, the rest of the group running away, and Kamjin starting to chase them while firing warning shots. The soldier had just announced his intention to desert during combat and proposed others to follow him, Kamjin was perfectly justified in executing him on the spot and was being generous in firing warning shots and demanding the troopers that had just deserted the battle returned to the fight.
