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- I didn't notice it until he did the same to Professor X — The wires on Mojo's face are a shout-out to A Clockwork Orange.
- Despite losing the majority of his powers, Cable recently seems to be able to survive attacks that would have previously killed him (his throat being slit, multiple bullets in the back and a katana through the chest all the space of a few days). But then one realizes that his former powers help keep his techno-organic virus at bay, now although weaker power-wise he is much more stronger physically because the techno-organics have spread throughout his entire body. "It's hard to completely slit a metal throat" — Wolfthomas
- The final chapter of the Dark Phoenix Saga. At first it seems like a BLAM...a massive plotline about how power corrupts ending with a trip to SPACE!!!! But then I realized: The Shi'Ar Empire is acting exactly like humanity would, with their resources and technology, faced with something they couldn't comprehend and were afraid of. JUST LIKE ANTI-MUTANT HYSTERIA. Empress Lilandra even admitted how much she loved Charles Xavier and how much she owed the X-Men, but in the end it wasn't enough to overcome the paranoia, bigotry, and hypocrisy of her own empire. ~ Ingonyama
- A second one on Whedon's Astonishing run. At two different points in the initial "Gifted" arc, the Danger Room settings get screwed up—once after Wolverine and Cyclops's fight, seemingly because Hank "forgot to specify scale" when he chose Hawaii as the location, and once after Wolverine and Beast's fight when it appears as a giant child's playroom, an apparently random setting but which Emma finds appropriate. However, looking ahead to the "Dangerous" arc, this could be seen not as errors or randomness but as Foreshadowing of Danger coming alive and sentient and choosing these settings deliberately. Which also proves she has something of a sense of humor!
- Wolverine in general. He often refers to himself as a "canucklehead". When I read this in my youth, I always thought he was pronouncing the silent "K" in knucklehead because he wasn't particularly bright (all that struggling with his animal side perhaps robbing him of higher cognitive function, I figured). Returning to comics after having experienced the world more myslef, I came to understand that he was talking about being both hard-headed (the adamantium helps) and a canuck—a Canadian. Guess who felt like the knucklehead then? ~ NeutronPong
- A moment that struck while reading Evil Only Has to Win Once, which mentions how notable it is that the X-Men's bad futures seem to ignore all the other heroes—which almost immediately brought to mind the Days of Future Past. In that future, the Sentinels killed all the mutants. During a war like that, how many non-mutant heroes would fight against the Sentinels due to having mutant family (the Fantastic Four), mutant friends (Spider-Man), or just out of principle (Captain America and most Avengers)? To kill the mutants means you'd have to go through them. And the Sentinels did. And how much of a leap would it be for the Sentinels to focus on the rest of the meta human population before turning on the "normal" humans? ~ Shotoman
- It's not so much all down to personal loyalties and duty, neither. Heroes like Spider-Man might be friends with mutants, but they themselves are mutates, having had their genetic make-up messed around (here, by being bitten by a radioactive spider). It's not much of a big leap for the Sentinels to go from attacking mutants to attacking human mutates.
- As Text From Superheroes Put It, "There are Sentinels in the area, thought I'd give you a heads up." "Oh, I'll be fine, I'm not a mutant." "Have fun explaining that to the giant killer robot."
- A bit of Fridge Brilliance for the main villain Magneto. Note this is not my piece of fridge brilliance but one that amazed me when I read them in the comments section on Cracked.
- "I used to like Magneto as a villain. He seemed to truly believe in mutant superiority and what he was doing. Then I remember an episode of the cartoon when he left Professor x during WWII and turned evil. He said that humans were doomed because they "can't even make peace with themselves." By this reasoning Magneto believed humans would never accept mutants because they fight amongst their own kind.Then as I grew older I start to think more on the subject. And eventually it came to me, what did Magneto really do? He gathered a bunch of mutants that believed in him and fought against OTHER FREAKING MUTANTS. He fights the x-men because they don't agree with him, he has fought apocalypse, and other mutants throughout the series. So humans are doomed because they "can't even make peace with themselves" yet mutants seem to have the same problem. So what does that make magneto? The same old hypocritical and stupid generic villain every comic book story has." -Walter Lives
- And the reply to it adding more brilliance to the mix- "Wait, you think Magneto's hypocrisy is that they and the humans both fight among themselves? You're missing the obvious one here. You know who ELSE thought that their species, or say, race, was superior? The same ones who killed his whole family. He literally became a Super-Hitler, coming far closer to killing all humans than the Nazis came to killing all there 'undesirables'. That's his big hypocrisy there." -The Naive Skeptic
- You can read comments here with full context: http://www.cracked.com/article_17175_6-supervillains-who-were-actually-ok-guys.html#ixzz23iIhkSk4
- Magneto fight the x-men because of ideological differences and because they get in his way and many times he have wanted Xavier to work with him side by side to help out mutants. He fights Xavier and his x-men because of his beliefs not because they have different powers.
- That's a pretty good realization, though I don't think the final summation of him being a 'Super Hitler' or a 'stupid generic villain' holds much weight. Besides Silver Age!Magneto or badly written Grant Morrison!Magneto, Mags rarely tries to wipe out humanity; rather, he tries to wipe out their ability to harm his people. It doesn't really make him a weak villain, in fact it serves as a Fatal Flaw that stops him from crossing into being just a straight-up Anti-Hero; like all extremists, he's just as guilty of the same things he credits his persecutors for, which is why he's still ultimately a villain.
- Creator Rob Liefeld has been critical of Shatterstar's outing as an enthusiastic bisexual. However, one has to remember that Shatterstar is from Mojoworld, a dimension where entertainment is everything. It was almost inevitable that Shatterstar would eventually become interested in media outside of his own genre (gladiator fights), and since so much entertainment centers around sex, he would naturally become fascinated by it sooner or later.
- Fridge Horror: Given that the X-Men are only ever shown intercepting with a mutant who's either in danger or has a power that makes them a potential hazard to themselves or others, its safe to assume that the million+ mutants we never see but are mentioned probably don't have powers that are particularly dangerous. Its clear mutants with cool powers are a minority given that civilian mutants, when they appear, tend to just be physically mutated people living in poor conditions who's powers are either passive or limited simply to physical traits that are useless in most situations. However, as they're the ones who live in the streets and not in mansions or anything, they're the ones who face the brunt force of hatred from humans and any counter-measures they employ. So, picture this scenario: You're a mutant, born with a harmless ability, if that (it could be anything, down to naturally pink skin or the ability to make people forget you exist after they stop paying attention to you), and then here comes the Sentinels, designed to hunt down the most dangerous mutants. You can't run away fast enough, you can't hide, and unlike the X-Men, you can't fight back. This is the reality most mutants face.
- Something I noted as Reality Is Unrealistic, but also fitting here. A lot of people often go on about how the X-Men 'don't fit' with the Marvel Universe because people seem to be OK with other, non-mutant superhumans, but for some reason think mutants are scum. Supposedly, it doesn't make sense to hate mutants if you don't have a problem with other superheroes, but here's the reality people forget: Bigotry in real life doesn't make sense either. There is no real, logical reason to hate black people, or Asian people, or gay people, or any other minority, yet people do it anyway; on top of that, its really not uncommon for someone to hate one minority group with a passion but not have any problem with another, even if there's ultimately no real difference between the groups. Bigotry is unreasonable by nature, so of course the mutant haters aren't going to make sense.
- Wolverine's Perma Stubble is a side-effect of his Healing Factor. Whenever he shaves, the stubble immediately regenerates, and then reverts back to a normal rate of growth because after that it's not healing any more, it's just growing.
- Cyclops mentions, in the context of the mystery of Maddie Pryor, that Jean died on September 1, 1980. This is a subtle meta-reference, as this was official date of publication of the issue where Jean died.
- A couple of off-hand remarks in a few early '80s issues completely destroys the comics' internal continuity of that period. First, as mentioned above, Cyclops canonically pegs Jean's death at Sept. 1, 1980. Earlier, in the issue "I, Magneto" in 1981, Cyclops and Magneto are talking about Jean's death and he mentions it as having happened a year previous. So far, so good. In a 1983 issue (the one where the X-Men defeat Mastermind and his plot to destroy the X-Men from within), Professor X talks of Jean's death as having happened "years ago", which implies that the comic is running in real time. Now here's where things get crazy. Let's look at character ages as stated in the comic. Kitty Pryde (may her codenames be many) enters the comic sometime in August, 1980 note , at the stated age of 13 1/2. In the 1984 issue "What Happened to Kitty?", Storm replies to the musings of a morgue attendant who is showing her, Rogue and Wolverine what is purported to be Kitty's corpse about Kitty's age by saying "she was not yet fifteen." Meaning that a maximum of only 18 monthsnote could have possibly passed from her introduction to the "present" day. Assuming real time, she should have either been almost 18, or the actual timeline was set at the very latest in February, 1982, which would make rubbish of Xavier's "years ago" line. There is absolutely no way both of those premises — that Jean Grey's death happened "years ago" and Kitty is "not yet 15" in Comic-Book Time — can be true and have the timeline hold together when you think about it. Even with a charitable reading of Xavier's "years" as meaning "two years ago."
- Further, Colossus, Nightcrawler and Storm, assuming the comic actually was in real time, could not have been much older than Kitty when recruited and would have to be in their mid-20s by that point in the comic. Yet in a 1984, post-Secret Wars issue, Colossus is revealed to be only 19, which seems to have been his constant age in the period. In 1981, Nightcrawler celebrates his 21st birthday, meaning he would have been only 15 when recruited by Professor X in 1975.
X-Men: The Animated Series
- This only occurred to me when watching the series but I always wondered why Mister Sinister was so pale and gross in the comics, then I realized he was supposed to represent the idea of a vampire.
- I actually like that Magneto isn't a Holocaust survivor in the animated series (not that there would be any way to justify that in-setting and be on children's television). It just makes it a generic "war" he's survived with his family killed. In many ways, it makes him much more applicable across a broad spectrum of origins.
- In the opening sequence, Warpath is grouped with Magneto and the villains, despite being a long-serving member of X-Force in the comics. At first this appears to be a careless mistake...but in fact, he was originally introduced as an antagonist in the comics, out for revenge against the X-Men over the death of his brother Thunderbird.
- Still doesn't have much sense from the show's perspective, since Warpath appears in the series proper only once, without any lines and, most importantly, fighting on the side of X-Men (during the liberation of the mutant concentration camp).
- It's not irrational to theorize that was an Enemy Mine situation, since some of said concentration camp's mutants were villains.
- Upon reading about some of the character's origins and re-watching episodes: Brilliance - The (originally) cartoon only character Morph is based off the (616) comic character "Changeling", who was killed off for real many years ago...except for the time he was brought back from the dead as a zombie by Black Talon, whose control he resisted due to his sense of loyalty. After becoming unexpectedly popular, Morph is brought back from the dead, in a zombie-like form, by Mr. Sinister, whose control he resisted due to his loyalty to the X-Men. (His return as a zombie occurred in She-Hulk in 1992, season 2 of the cartoon began in October of 1993.)
- In "Slave Island" Jubilee is thrown into a sweat box for trying to escape the island. We later see her sweating and complaining about the heat, but she's still wearing her jacket.
- More of an IJBM than Fridge, methinks.
- Risty's accent. Despite the fact that she claims to be from Manchester, England to Rogue in Growing Pains, she has a very generic and stereotypical English accent. Which makes no sense until you realize that she's actually Mystique, who, while she may have been to Manchester in the past, knew that Rogue hadn't (due to Mystique and Irene raising Rogue) and therefore saw no need in providing an authentic accent when a more generic one would be just as convincing.
Wolverine And The X-Men
- I always wondered why they went with the idea of making Scott into the angry loner and Wolverine into the badly fit leader. Then I realized that it wasn't just because of ratings. Professor X needs someone who is a brutal guerrilla fighter who doesn't mind getting his hands dirty to defeat the government gone wild. Cyclops is still needed because he needs to channel his rage over Jean's abduction into a weapon against the enemy. The X-men in this series, basically, are X-force.
- A bit of Fridge Horror that hit me while watching the episode "Badlands." Before Genosha got annihilated by the war, it was an island nation of the African shore of the Indian Ocean. Afterwards, it's surrounded by a desert. Is it just me, or did the war between humans and mutants completely evaporate the ocean!?
- The second X-Men movie involves a plot in which Professor Xavier is brainwashed into using a copy of Cerebro to attempt to wipe out the human race. The heroes manage to interrupt him before Xavier can actually kill anyone - but a scene montage shows that an undetermined amount of people experienced a severe headache for a short time. The movie doesn't give any details on how many people were affected, but the montage implies that A LOT of people experienced the severe headache. Now, think about what would happen if a huge number of people were suddenly affected by a severe headache that incapacitated them, even for a short time.
- Car crashes, plane crashes, surgeons screwing things up in the middle of surgery...
- In the movies, Magneto is a surivivor of the Holocaust and his experiences with Nazi Germany has led to his fierce commitment for mutant rights. Yet he is not a peacful mutant right advocist, but basically he represents a point of view of "Mutant Supremacy". He wants to wipe out normal humans because he feels they are inferior. So there is no difference between the Nazis and Magneto, both view(ed) some other human beings as inferior races which do not have a right to exist and have to be wiped out.
- The Nazis based their philosophy on racial superiority. Magneto's is based on evolutionary superiority. A subtle difference, but an important one in his mind. One could argue that he would seek a peaceful alternative if he thought that was a viable option, but based on his experiences, it isn't. The Nazis attacked other races based on unsubstantiated fear whereas Magneto has mankind's well-documented history as a stupid and violent race on which base his own fears.
- I don't believe he mentioned it in First Class (where he seemed to be driven mostly by pure revenge) but comic and original trilogy Magneto has often taken the Holocaust as evidence that humans kill others just for being different. And if humans will commit genocide over difference in race, an entirely different species had better take a "them or us" stance and strike first.
- The third movie ends with Rogue taking the cure so she can be with Iceman, but as the ending goes on to show, the cure isn't permanent. Bobby had better hope he's not doing anything that involves physical contact with the girl that he can touch for the first time in their relationship when the cure wears off.
- Canon holds that Rogue is a Class 2 mutant, and Magneto a Class 6. The cure could very well work entirely on Rogue and leave Magneto with power.
- On a more positive note, if the cure doesn't prove permanent for Rogue, she's still got Leech there with her at the school. Spare another milliliter of cure serum for Rogue, Leech?
- Also, if the return of Magneto's powers are any indication, the happy couple will get some fair warning in advance. Magneto could only just wobble that chess piece a bit. The first indication for Rogue will be when she suddenly starts feeling kind of cold and realizes she can see her breath, and Iceman's feeling a bit worn out just from kissing her.
- In "First Class", Charles leaves Shaw paralyzed momentarily, so he can't hurt Erik. Then, Erik proceeds to kill Shaw by driving a metal coin through his head. Erik is now delighted he has killed and tortured his enemy- cause let's face it, a metal coin through the skull will hurt. Wrong. Charles had incapacitated Shaw by putting his conscience into Shaw's head so to control him. It was Shaw who died because it was his brain the coin was put through- but it was Charles who felt every moment of a small, metal, object being driven through his skull. Nice one, Erik.
- Since Charles hadn't reached puberty yet when we see him as a kid in 1944, that means a traumatic event triggered his mutation—most probably it was the death of his father.
- First Class, so...just what is Shaw's helmet made out of that prevents telepaths from reading his mind?
- Isn't it made of metal? Why couldn't Magneto just take it off of him from a distance?
- Not all metals are magnetic.
- Probably the same material as the nuclear chamber in his sub, since Charles couldn't reach anyone that went inside.
- Thought why would he need it, since Shaw specifically mentions being able to absorb energy, and unlike his comic version, it isn't limited to kinetic energy, as he was able to absorb both a grenade blast and a lot of radiation. Shouldn't that count for whatever energy is used for telepaths to read minds? Assuming the phrase 'Psychic energy' often used in comics to describe telepaths and telekinetics use of their powers applies to the films too, as noted previously, thought now removed for some reason.
- Actually a grenade blast is kinetic energy.
- Tin. It is a well known secret that tin blocks outside brain waves from getting in. It's why tin has been mostly replaced by aluminum for civilian purposes.
- Shaw's entire plan in First Class: Putting aside the genocide and assuming Shaw is correct that mutants would be able to weather the radiation... Between the mutants that would die in the nuclear blasts themselves, those that would die of starvation and disease before they could be found by Shaw (assuming he would actually look for them) and those whose mutations would kill them once activated or altered by the radiation, you MIGHT have a couple thousand mutants worldwide to inherit the earth. That's probably not enough to repopulate the world with genetic sustainability — again assuming that the fallout hasn't sterilized a significant portion of the survivors. Of course, Shaw was never portrayed as being particularly sane.
- Shaw threw Erik around while inside the nuclear chamber, and while getting his ass kicked Erik showed no signs of the negative side effects of being in a nuclear chamber. So apparently, mutants are immune to radiation. Thought, this is also the 1940-60s, while we understood radiation isn't friendly, we still didn't know everything about it. Shaw was shown to be qualified in genetics, its possible his knowledge of radiation isn't exactly that great, and just assumed "Hey, mutants are immune to radiation, and I can both manipulate a Nuclear holocaust and turn myself into an atomic bomb. Lets see how this all plays out, maybe I can genocide all humans and leave the mutants to live freely, For Science!!!." Of course, it was never mentioned what his plan was for food after all the animals are wiped out, unless he plans for them to eat each... Lets not think about it.
- With the number of nukes both sides had at the time of the historical Cuban Missile Crisis, the entire world would hardly be a lifeless wasteland. One of the reasons to Soviets wanted missiles on Cuba was the fact that nuclear ICB Ms were still relatively new tech, and being able to hit the US with short-ranged missiles would seriously increase the number of nukes the USSR could actually deliver onto US soil.
- Also, most of the damage in a 1960's nuclear war would be limited to the US, USSR, and Europe. Shaw might have just planned on building his new mutant civilization in Australia, Africa, South America, or some other place that would be relatively unscathed.
- Remember that First Class was set in the 60s - the era that brought us heroes like Spiderman (bit by a radioactive spider), The Hulk (caught in a Gamma Bomb blast) and the Fantastic Four (bombarded with cosmic radiation). Shaw's plan seems downright logical from that perspective.
- Something to be noted is that studies show that the number of people roughly need to sustain a viable human population without causing genetic in-breeding is 500, so 2,000 mutants would be more than enough to maintain a viable mutant population.
X-Men in other media
- Fridge Logic: So, Yui Sasaki in X-Men is confronted by the fact that her son Takeo is a Reality Warper. His father, who doesn't know he exists yet, is a powerful telepath who has dedicated his life to helping mutants learn to control their powers and use them safely. So, clearly the best thing to do is to ensure he never finds out about Takeo, make her son erase his existence from the minds of everyone around him, lock him up in a research center out in the middle of nowhere, and start working madly on an "anti-X-Gene retro virus", a process that requires killing who-knows-how-many other mutants to use their tissues to culture it in. Can lean into What an Idiot territory.