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* KickTheSonOfABitch: [[spoiler:Considering his [[FantasticRacism attitude towards goblins]] and that his KickTheDog moment was his only real scene before his death, the murder of the Commander by Redcloak can easily be seen as this. The Giant admitted in the book commentary that he wrote the Commander specifically so Redcloak could use ''implosion'' on someone that wouldn't be terribly missed.]]


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* PayEvilUntoEvil: [[spoiler:Considering his [[FantasticRacism attitude towards goblins]] and that his KickTheDog moment was his only real scene before his death, the murder of the Commander by Redcloak can easily be seen as this. The Giant admitted in the book commentary that he wrote the Commander specifically so Redcloak could use ''implosion'' on someone that wouldn't be terribly missed.]]
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* SmartJerkAndNiceMoron: Mr. Jones is a walking EvilLawyerJoke, who throws legal impediments in the path of the Order (except when they retain his services; he's a [[ConsummateProfessional professional]]). Phil Rodriguez is affable and dimwitted, regularly committing legal gaffes and {{Malaprop|er}}isms. Whenever they lose a case, Mr. Jones [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0287.html manipulates the court transcript]] so that Mr. Rodriguez is listed as primary counsel, allowing Mr. Jones to maintain a "perfect" record at trial.

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* SmartJerkAndNiceMoron: Mr. Jones is a walking EvilLawyerJoke, who throws legal impediments in the path of the Order (except when they retain his services; he's a [[ConsummateProfessional professional]]). Phil Rodriguez is affable and dimwitted, regularly committing legal gaffes and {{Malaprop|er}}isms. Whenever they lose a case, Mr. Jones [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0287.html manipulates the court transcript]] so that Mr. Rodriguez is listed as primary counsel, allowing Mr. Jones to maintain a "perfect" record at trial. That said, the fact that he has lost 147 cases despite being one of only two lawyers in the world before Celia came along shows he's not that smart, just smarter than Rodriguez.
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* HarmfulToMinors: [[spoiler:Their legs get broken and they see their parent crucified on a tree by a monster out to murder the three of them. Then their other parent shows up and brutally kills their attacker, and massacres everyone the attacker was ever related to.]]

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* HarmfulToMinors: [[spoiler:Their legs get broken and they see their parent crucified on a tree by a monster out dragon who wants to murder devour the three of them. Then their other parent shows up and up, brutally kills their attacker, and massacres then proceeds to massacre everyone the attacker was ever related to.]]
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-->'''Eugene''': ...But I'm sure you've got some bee in your bonnet about letting people die or something.
-->'''Roy''': Um, yes. Yes I do.
-->'''Eugene''': See. I knew it. I don't know why that even matters, honestly.
* LaserGuidedKarma: Eugene's final fate in the afterlife is currently unknown; whether he would be allowed to pass based on his prior judgement, or if all of his actions as an Oathspirit have impacted that...but considering his current position, karma has thoroughly punished him for his actions in his life and afterlife. His bitter and selfish nature have resulted in him becoming totally isolated in the spiritual realm with no proper interaction and no recognition, things that he took for granted or disdained as a living person. Even his talents in magic aren't able to do much good in a heavenly place where they're trumped by far more powerful forces than him, meaning his boasts of superiority now fall totally flat.

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-->'''Eugene''': ...-->'''Eugene:''' ...But I'm sure you've got some bee in your bonnet about letting people die or something.
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something.\\
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Um, yes. Yes I do.
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do.\\
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See. I knew it. I don't know why that even matters, honestly.
* LaserGuidedKarma: Eugene's final fate in the afterlife is currently unknown; whether he would be allowed to pass based on his prior judgement, or if all of his actions as an Oathspirit have impacted that... but considering his current position, karma has thoroughly punished him for his actions in his life and afterlife. His bitter and selfish nature have resulted in him becoming totally isolated in the spiritual realm with no proper interaction and no recognition, things that he took for granted or disdained as a living person. Even his talents in magic aren't able to do much good in a heavenly place where they're trumped by far more powerful forces than him, meaning his boasts of superiority now fall totally flat.

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* LackOfEmpathy: Doesn't see what the problem is with the Gods ''destroying the world and killing everyone on it'', and in general doesn't care about how other people are affected by the consequences of his actions.
-->'''Eugene''': ...But I'm sure you've got some bee in your bonnet about letting people die or something.
-->'''Roy''': Um, yes. Yes I do.
-->'''Eugene''': See. I knew it. I don't know why that even matters, honestly.
* LaserGuidedKarma: Eugene's final fate in the afterlife is currently unknown; whether he would be allowed to pass based on his prior judgement, or if all of his actions as an Oathspirit have impacted that...but considering his current position, karma has thoroughly punished him for his actions in his life and afterlife. His bitter and selfish nature have resulted in him becoming totally isolated in the spiritual realm with no proper interaction and no recognition, things that he took for granted or disdained as a living person. Even his talents in magic aren't able to do much good in a heavenly place where they're trumped by far more powerful forces than him, meaning his boasts of superiority now fall totally flat.



%%* DeadpanSnarker: Especially towards Andi.

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%%* * ADayInTheLimelight: The Frost Giant mini-arc puts particular spotlight on her; with the Order mostly busy fighting the Frost Giants (which at this point, they've become strong enough to reasonably deal with without any major drama), the perspective switches over to Bandana and the crew, highlighting her role as Captain against a mutinous Andi.
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DeadpanSnarker: Especially towards Andi.Like most characters in the comic, she has plenty of sarcastic biting quips, mostly against the strangeness of the world she lives in. Unlike Roy, she mostly rolls with the punches.



* {{Foil}}: To Haley herself. Haley offers to help Bandana get acclimated to command, based on her experience as a leader in the Azure City Resistance. Turns out, however, that Bandana's been planning for command her whole life, and doesn't suffer the usual Rogue hangups about being in a position of authority. Nonetheless, she's grateful for Haley's offer.

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** Takes on a bit of ToughLove when the crew is about to break down fighting the Frost Giants, pointing out the hard truth of their situation; just acting like neutral pirates and whining about the good guys and bad guys isn't going to save their lives or get them through the crisis. They have to buckle down and do their part, no shifting responsibility or blame.
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To Haley herself.Haley, another Rogue. Haley offers to help Bandana get acclimated to command, based on her experience as a leader in the Azure City Resistance. Turns out, however, that Bandana's been planning for command her whole life, and doesn't suffer the usual Rogue hangups about being in a position of authority. Nonetheless, she's grateful for Haley's offer.
** To Miko. Whereas Miko was a HolierThanThou KnightTemplar paladin, Bandana is a ReasonableAuthorityFigure of a PirateGirl. Both women were characters tagging along for a significant portion of the Order's quest, but whereas Miko was constantly opposed to the Order, plotted to punish them, and ultimately doomed her own side's goals due to her descent into madness, Bandana averts any JurisdictionFriction with Roy; he does his job, she does hers. Their roles amongst their true groups differs both professionally and how their deal with it. While Miko was the strongest paladin of the Sapphire Guard, she was also deeply loathed for her behavior and eventual tendency to overstep her boundaries. Bandana was made interim captain of the ''Mechane'', and demonstrates far more rationale and critical thinking in that role than Miko managed as a regular paladin.



* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: "Bandana" is a nickname she came up with as a child. Her parents are [[MeaningfulName Fidel Secundus]] (from ''Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tails'') and Lakaita Secundus, so she likely shares their surname.

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* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: "Bandana" is a nickname she came up with as a child.child; her true name is Beatrix. Her parents are [[MeaningfulName Fidel Secundus]] (from ''Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tails'') and Lakaita Secundus, so she likely shares their surname.



* RousingSpeech: Has a very grounded one for the crew, who are lost and unsure of what to do due to Andi's mutiny and battling the Frost Giants. She tells them that yes, it sucks, and it is ''not'' going to get better by just standing around and whining about it, or pointing the finger at the heroes. It's either suck it up and keep going, or give up and die. It works.



* ToughLove: Shown when she was tied up and had to reassure the crew. While lampshaded how it wasn't really comforting, she says that it's because of the serious matter at hand. She brings up they can be NeutralNoLonger and become more involved in the world affairs. However, it's clear that she does this because she cares for the crew and knows they need to do this for their own good. She does imply she could be traditionally comforting, but would only do so for her girlfriend.

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* ToughLove: Shown when she was tied up and had to reassure the crew. While lampshaded how it wasn't really comforting, she says that it's because of the serious matter at hand. She brings up how they can have to be NeutralNoLonger and become more involved in the world affairs. However, it's clear that she does this because she cares for the crew and knows they need to do this for their own good. She does imply she could be traditionally comforting, but would only do so for her girlfriend.



* BystanderSyndrome: In regards to the Order's quest, Andi does not want to continue helping them when the Order needs to get to Firmament. Even when Bandana ensures that the crew will get a proper pay from the extra mileage, Andi would prefer that their crew of pirates remain ''pirates'', not, as she puts it, a ferry service. When the ''Mechane'' is attacked by Frost Giants, rather than assist in engineering, ''her area of expertise'', Andi prefers to stand around and complain. [[spoiler:Likewise, not too much later, while her later mutiny of Bandana is rooted in pettier grievances, as detailed below, it's also motivated by her not wanting to put the ship in any more danger resulting from the Order's quest, and '''if''' they had successfully managed to escape under Andi's command, she likely would've thrown the Order off the ''Mechane'' despite Julio's wishes ''and the impending end of the world''.]]



* DudeWheresMyReward: Considers herself to have more of a "claim" to the captaincy of the ''Mechane'' than Bandana does, on the grounds of having substantially longer service aboard the ship.

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* DudeWheresMyReward: Considers herself to have more of a "claim" to the captaincy of the ''Mechane'' than Bandana does, on the grounds of having substantially longer service aboard the ship. It's ultimately just part of a very, ''very'' [[SchoolyardBullyAllGrownUp petty grudge.]]



* ItsAllAboutMe: Her grudge against Bandana spurs her mutiny against the younger woman (due to Bandana being a handful for her back when Bandana was eight and she babysat her at fifteen), feeling she automatically knows better than Bandana in any and all situations, and that things would go much better if Bandana listened to her.

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* JerkassToOne: Towards Bandana, and for extremely petty reasons. Andi only sees an eight-year old brat who was just handed her position as interim captain of the ''Mechane''. Whilst their relationship seemed professional prior to the Order's quest shifting to the North, once Bandana is made captain, Andi's nastier attitude quickly comes to the surface, [[spoiler:to the point where she attempts a mutiny.]]
* JerkassHasAPoint:
** When the Order's mission shifts to needing to head up to Firmament, Andi does not want to help them, regardless of her personal opinion of Roy, due to the number of stops that have been made and lack of payment, on top of the quest details having not been explained. The second issue is something Bandana considers a good point, and arranges for, in addition to funding for ship repairs, individual payments for the crew throughout the rest of the voyage.
** Belkar wanting to make stakes against vampires? Great. Belkar trying to make those stakes ''out of the wood the ship is made out of?'' Yeah, not hard to argue with Andi on that one.
* ItsAllAboutMe: Her grudge against Bandana spurs her mutiny against the younger woman (due to Bandana being a handful for her back when Bandana was eight and she babysat her at fifteen), feeling she automatically knows better than Bandana in any and all situations, and that things would go much better if Bandana listened to her. The course of her mutiny demonstrates this attitude is not merely JerkassToOne; Andi disregards the criticisms and fears of the crew, thinking that just giving them orders is sufficient, ignoring the actual facts of the situation at hand.
* IRejectYourReality: As part of her incompetent leadership-style, Andi seems to think that she can overrule the actual facts of the situation at hand with her own opinions. One example is a possible escape route for the ship to take...except it's far too high an altitude for the ship to climb in its current condition. Andi automatically assumes that they will have room, instead of taking actions like say, lightening the load, or even finding a different route. If she says they can make it, they can make it.



* LeaderWannabe: While she often claims to be more fitting to run the ship, she quickly turns out to be very incompetent when compared to Bandana. Not only does she ''not'' even have seniority (there's a half-elf crew member), she proves to be indecisive, lacking the ability to command, and being more concerned with tying up Bandana than the approaching mountains. When Bandana points out that her gripe is rooted in being the former's old babysitter than any decision Bandana made presently, Andi's rebuttal is simply childish. Shortly afterwards, she shows herself to be completely willing to ignore the expertise of the crew ([[{{Hypocrite}} which she herself claimed Bandana was doing]]), which results in [[spoiler:Roy losing the Greenhilt family sword and possibly some more damage to the ship.]] Ultimately, it's made pretty clear that Andi's "mutiny" has the support of no-one except herself, and the only reason it lasts as long as it does is that everyone has bigger fish to fry at that point than putting her back in her place; the very second her back is turned and things have calmed down a bit, everyone turns on her.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: She looks genuinely horrified after [[spoiler:whacking Bandana with a wrench in a moment of fury.]]
* NoBadassToHisValet: DeconstructedTrope -- most of the crew recognize Bandana as a capable captain chosen by Julio to help the Order of the Stick complete their mission. Andi, however, still views her as the kid who gave her trouble during her studies back when she babysat her. The deconstruction starts when we realistically see what happens when someone maintains this view and refuses to recognize change. This attitude makes Andi reluctant to follow Bandana and gripe about how ''she'' should be in charge. [[spoiler:Eventually, she knocks Bandana out in a mutiny... before proceeding to make things worse and proving herself to be an incapable captain. While she fixes the engines, Bandana regains control and proceeds to fix the issues quickly.]]

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* LeaderWannabe: While she often claims to be more fitting to run the ship, she quickly turns out to be very incompetent when compared to Bandana. Not only does she ''not'' even have seniority (there's a half-elf crew member), she proves to be indecisive, lacking the ability to command, and being more concerned with tying up Bandana than the approaching mountains. When Bandana points out that her gripe is rooted in being the former's old babysitter than any decision Bandana made presently, Andi's rebuttal is simply childish. Shortly afterwards, she shows herself to be completely willing to ignore the expertise of the crew ([[{{Hypocrite}} which she herself claimed Bandana was doing]]), which results in [[spoiler:Roy losing the Greenhilt family sword (thankfully averted thanks to its Weapon of Legacy status) and possibly some more damage to the ship.]] Ultimately, it's made pretty clear that Andi's "mutiny" has the support of no-one except herself, and the only reason it lasts as long as it does is that everyone has bigger fish to fry at that point than putting her back in her place; the very second her back is turned and things have calmed down a bit, everyone turns on her.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: She looks genuinely horrified shocked with herself after [[spoiler:whacking Bandana with a wrench in a moment of fury.]]
fury, [[AvertedTrope but once her mutiny begins in earnest, doesn't regret it in the slightest.]]]]
* NoBadassToHisValet: DeconstructedTrope -- most of the crew recognize Bandana as a capable captain chosen by Julio to help the Order of the Stick complete their mission. Andi, however, still views her as the kid who gave her trouble during her studies back when she babysat her.her, and the Order's mission to be a mess not worth getting involved with. The deconstruction starts when we realistically see what happens when someone maintains this view and refuses to recognize change. This attitude makes Andi reluctant to follow Bandana and gripe about how ''she'' should be in charge. [[spoiler:Eventually, she knocks Bandana out in a mutiny...mutiny in an attempt to escape an encounter with Frost Giants... before proceeding to make things worse and proving herself to be an incapable captain. While she fixes the engines, Bandana regains control and proceeds to fix the issues quickly.]]



* PlotIrrelevantVillain: More akin to Plot Irrelevant ''Antagonist'' since at her core, Andi is a neutral character with a {{Jerkass}} nature rather than a full-blown villain, but it's worth pointing out that the Order had no idea of the mutiny she led; Bandana just sums up the situation as the crew losing their way briefly, Roy quickly shoots down Elan's inquiry to elaborate, and the resulting HumblePie keeps Andi in her engineer role for the rest of the arc.



* SchoolyardBullyAllGrownUp: Her entire beef with Bandana is that she was the latter's babysitter back when she was fifteen and resents her for having been a difficult-to-manage child... ''when the latter was eight years old.''

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* SchoolyardBullyAllGrownUp: Her entire beef with Bandana is that she was the latter's babysitter back when she was fifteen and resents her for having been a difficult-to-manage child... [[DisproportionateRetribution ''when the latter was eight years old.'''']]
* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: While the root cause of [[spoiler:her mutiny]] lies with a petty grudge against Bandana, she has also had enough of the dangers of the Order's quest and no longer wishes to assist them with it, preferring to complain instead of help. Bandana's regaining control of the situation puts a stop to it.
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* AllForNothing: When Vaarsuvius returned for a second round, now empowered with the three soul splices, she feared that all her efforts to get revenge on V would have been for nothing just before finally managing to swallow V whole. It did come to be moments later when V cast ''shapeshift'' from inside her and burst out, instantly killing her, and then proceeded to raise her from the dead solely to make her watch as Vaarsuvius cast ''familicide'' and exterminated her entire lineage. While V's family renounced them shortly afterwards as a result of the deal that was taken to accomplish this, the black dragon was left with her vengeance over Vaarsuvius denied after a year's worth of endeavors to track down her son's killer and waiting for the opportune moment to strike.

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* FreudianExcuseDenial: He himself has never self-reflected enough to admit to even a FreudianExcuse within the story, but this is quite evident whenever his family reflects on his actions. Eugene has all the trappings for a reason behind his behavior: Friction with his father for [[JockDadNerdSon genuinely being different from him]], his master Fryon being killed by the evil lich Xykon with him helpless to prevent it, his experiments causing the death of his youngest son, and getting along with his daughter more for sharing his interests whilst verbally abusing his eldest son for not. Yet throughout, it is made clear that these were ''symptoms'' of his behavior, not the cause. Eugene was antagonistic to his father just for being a fighter and refused to ever see common ground with him, effectively disowning him for Fryon just to sate his thirst for knowledge. When Fryon died, Eugene did indeed swear revenge...but lost interest in doing so, failing to realize the ramifications of the Blood Oath he took. The fact that Xykon is not a mere personal threat, but a threat to the ''world'' doesn't matter to Eugene; he just wants to get into heaven. He had in fact, gotten ''bored'' with having a family and hated that his obligations were torn between them and his returning interest in magic; he endangered his boys with his experiments and believes that simply that being a wizard makes Julia preferable over Roy for the Blood Oath, completely disregarding the personal complexities demanded of the quest involving the gates as well as the fact that putting the Blood Oath on his children in the first place showcases no protective desire towards them, just how useful they can be to him.

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* FreudianExcuseDenial: He himself has never self-reflected enough to admit to even a FreudianExcuse within the story, but this is quite evident whenever his family reflects on his actions. Eugene has all the trappings for a reason behind his behavior: Friction friction with his father for [[JockDadNerdSon genuinely being different from him]], his master Fryon Fyron being killed by the evil lich Xykon with him helpless to prevent it, his experiments causing the death of his youngest son, and getting along with his daughter more for sharing his interests whilst verbally abusing his eldest son for not. Yet throughout, it is made clear that these were ''symptoms'' of his behavior, not the cause. Eugene was antagonistic to his father just for being a fighter and refused to ever see common ground with him, effectively disowning him for Fryon Fyron just to sate his thirst for knowledge. When Fryon Fyron died, Eugene did indeed swear revenge...revenge... but lost interest in doing so, failing to realize the ramifications of the Blood Oath he took. The fact that Xykon is not a mere personal threat, but a threat to the ''world'' doesn't matter to Eugene; he just wants to get into heaven. He had in fact, gotten ''bored'' with having a family and hated that his obligations were torn between them and his returning interest in magic; he endangered his boys with his experiments and believes that simply that being a wizard makes Julia preferable over Roy for the Blood Oath, completely disregarding the personal complexities demanded of the quest involving the gates as well as the fact that putting the Blood Oath on his children in the first place showcases no protective desire towards them, just how useful they can be to him.



* OmnicidalManiac: [[PlayedForLaughs Played For]] BlackComedy; he comments about allowing the [[spoiler:gods to destroy the world to stop the Snarl]], as it would destroy Xykon and let him to pass on. He only withdraws the opinion when Roy points out that this would [[spoiler:condemn all the Dwarves to Hel]], and even after this is noted, his solution is to have them all go out and get themselves killed first.

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* OmnicidalManiac: [[PlayedForLaughs Played For]] for]] BlackComedy; he comments about allowing the [[spoiler:gods to destroy the world to stop the Snarl]], as it would destroy Xykon and let him to pass on. He only withdraws the opinion when Roy points out that this would [[spoiler:condemn all the Dwarves to Hel]], and even after this is noted, his solution is to have them all go out and get themselves killed first.



* NotSoSimilar: While she may rib on Roy for being a fighter and has a rather large ego, not unlike her father, she actually does care about her family, with her jibes against her brother being far more playful than malicious, can actually listen to other people while Eugene blows them off, and most importantly, does not want the world to be destroyed, while Eugene actively desires it just to see his Oath be fulfilled. In addition, her assessment of her powers is quite realistic and grounded, contrast to Eugene's near-obsession with magic, and she can actually think through her actions, recognizing that her father wasn't really thinking when he made the Blood Oath.



* NotSoSimilar: While she may rib on Roy for being a fighter and has a rather large ego, not unlike her father, she actually does care about her family, with her jibes against her brother being far more playful than malicious, can actually listen to other people while Eugene blows them off, and most importantly, does not want the world to be destroyed, while Eugene actively desires it just to see his Oath be fulfilled. In addition, her assessment of her powers is quite realistic and grounded, contrast to Eugene's near-obsession with magic, and she can actually think through her actions, recognizing that her father wasn't really thinking when he made the Blood Oath.
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* KarmaHoudini: {{Subverted}}. After her mutiny fails, Bandana makes it clear she won't tolerate any more shenanigans from her and, drawing inspiration from Felix, she decides her share of the pay will be split among the rest of the crew instead.

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* KarmaHoudini: {{Subverted}}. After her mutiny fails, she's seemingly let back onto the crew with nothing more then a stern glare. However, once they're out of immediate danger, Bandana makes it clear she won't tolerate any more shenanigans from her and, drawing inspiration from Felix, she decides her share of the pay will be split among the rest of the crew instead.

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* FreudianExcuseDenial: He himself has never self-reflected enough to admit to even a FreudianExcuse within the story, but this is quite evident whenever his family reflects on his actions. Eugene has all the trappings for a reason behind his behavior: Friction with his father for [[JockDadNerdSon genuinely being different from him]], his master Fryon being killed by the evil lich Xykon with him helpless to prevent it, his experiments causing the death of his youngest son, and getting along with his daughter more for sharing his interests whilst verbally abusing his eldest son for not. Yet throughout, it is made clear that these were ''symptoms'' of his behavior, not the cause. Eugene was antagonistic to his father just for being a fighter and refused to ever see common ground with him, effectively disowning him for Fryon just to sate his thirst for knowledge. When Fryon died, Eugene did indeed swear revenge...but lost interest in doing so, failing to realize the ramifications of the Blood Oath he took. The fact that Xykon is not a mere personal threat, but a threat to the ''world'' doesn't matter to Eugene; he just wants to get into heaven. He had in fact, gotten ''bored'' with having a family and hated that his obligations were torn between them and his returning interest in magic; he endangered his boys with his experiments and believes that simply that being a wizard makes Julia preferable over Roy for the Blood Oath, completely disregarding the personal complexities demanded of the quest involving the gates as well as the fact that putting the Blood Oath on his children in the first place showcases no protective desire towards them, just how useful they can be to him.



* {{Jerkass}}: Disdain for fighters, emotionally abusive to his children, dismissive of his entire family, and overall a cranky and bitter person. His father even mentions that Eugene was rude and disrespectful to him simply for being a fighter.

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* {{Jerkass}}: Disdain for fighters, emotionally abusive to his children, dismissive of his entire family, incredibly selfish, and overall just a cranky and bitter person. His father even mentions that Eugene was rude and disrespectful to him simply for being a fighter. What makes Eugene's brand of nastiness stand out in particular is that he doesn't even have a FreudianExcuse for his behavior, as even as a child he only respected the intelligent and disdained everyone else. Even his wife, the one person who has any insight into his full character, admits that he was ornery and bitter by nature.



* JockDadNerdSon: His father Horace was a Fighter, while Eugene was interested in magic and studying even as a child. Unusual for this trope, Eugene was the antagonistic one in the relationship, constantly calling his father stupid and looking down on him for his preference for action over words, while all Horace wanted was to bond with his son, and never tried to force him into a physical Class.

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* JockDadNerdSon: His father Horace was a Fighter, while Eugene was interested in magic and studying even as a child. Unusual Unusually for this trope, Eugene was the antagonistic one in the relationship, constantly calling his father stupid and looking down on him for his preference for action over words, while all Horace wanted was to bond with his son, and never tried to force him into a physical Class.
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* TheLancer: She acts as this for O-Chul in "How the Paladin Got His Scar," as the only other member of the group with any meaningful combat experience. She serves as a counterweight to O-Chul's more traditionally heroic attitudes, advocating more pragmatic and/or violent actions.
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* FauxAffablyEvil: [[LikeFatherLikeSon Just like his mother.]] He's polite to the heroes, complimenting Vaarsuvius's intelligence and talking about his open-mindeness to other species, while trying to kill and eat them.

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* FauxAffablyEvil: [[LikeFatherLikeSon Just like his mother.]] He's polite to the heroes, complimenting Vaarsuvius's intelligence and talking about his open-mindeness open-mindedness to other species, while trying to kill and eat them.



* AntiMagic: Claims to be no slouch at spellcasting herself, but intentionally uses the spell Antimagic Field to remove V's ability to defend themself.

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* AntiMagic: Claims to be no slouch at spellcasting herself, but intentionally uses the spell Antimagic Field ''antimagic field'' to remove V's ability to defend themself.



* BadassBoast: While explaining to V how they can't stop them:
--> "Without your magic, you are ''nothing''. With it? You are still less then I"

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* BroughtDownToBadass: As she points out after casting AntiMagic, even though she's just disabled her arcane spellcasting, she is still ''a dragon''.

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* BroughtDownToBadass: As she points out after casting AntiMagic, an ''antimagic field'', even though she's just disabled her arcane spellcasting, she is still ''a dragon''.



* YoureNothingWithoutYourPhlebotinum: Traps Vaarsuvius in an AntiMagic sphere to demonstrate to them how useless a SquishyWizard is when BroughtDownToNormal.

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* YoureNothingWithoutYourPhlebotinum: Traps Vaarsuvius in an AntiMagic sphere ''antimagic field'' to demonstrate to them how useless a SquishyWizard is when BroughtDownToNormal.
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* FauxAffablyEvil: [[LikeFatherLikeSon Just like his mother.]] He's polite to the heroes, complimenting Vaarsuvius's intelligence and talking about his open-mindeness to other species, while trying to kill and eat them.


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* BadassBoast: While explaining to V how they can't stop them:
--> "Without your magic, you are ''nothing''. With it? You are still less then I"


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* RevengeByProxy: She attempts this on V, murdering their children as recompense for her son's death. She ends up the victim of this on a massively larger scale, with V murdering ''every being related to her'' (1/4th of black dragons, and a good number of humans)) in recompense.
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* GoodParents: PlayedWith. His relationship with Eugene is ''exceedingly'' frosty, such that they share a mutual DeathGlare upon briefly interacting in the afterlife and Eugene outright says he has nothing to say to him, and indicates that he's glad he doesn't visit, despite being capable of doing so by exiting the lawful good afterlife at any point and Eugene later on becoming annoyed over having nobody to talk to. However, this is all indicated through flashbacks to be squarely due to Eugene's own refusal to accept Horace as his father, feeling he's much better than him due to being a powerful magic-casting wizard, and his studious interests and prideful sense of superiority making him look down on Horace's genuine attempts to bond with him, such as fishing together, which he did with his own father and very much enjoyed. Horace's interactions with Sara and Eric indicate that he's a much better father figure in their lives than Eugene himself, and he regularly checks up on them in the afterlife to make sure they're doing ok, whereas Eugene willingly accepts never seeing his family in the afterlife without a second thought. Furthermore, whilst Horace was willing to be convinced to enrol Eugene in Magic University so he could follow the career he was passionate in, Eugene never extended the same courtesy to Horace's own career as a fighter, demeaning Roy when he chose to follow in his Grandfather's footsteps and being contemptuous that he'd ever succeed in making a successful carer of it. Horace bitterly notes that even when his son was young he was disrespectful towards him and openly called him stupid multiple times, making it clear that Horace was not the father that Eugene wanted despite his efforts to be a good parent to him regardless.

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* GoodParents: PlayedWith. His relationship with Eugene is ''exceedingly'' frosty, such that they share a mutual DeathGlare upon briefly interacting in the afterlife and Eugene outright says he has nothing to say to him, and indicates that he's glad he doesn't visit, despite being capable of doing so by exiting the lawful good afterlife at any point and Eugene later on becoming annoyed over having nobody to talk to. However, this is all indicated through flashbacks to be squarely due to Eugene's own refusal to accept Horace as his father, feeling he's much better than him due to being a powerful magic-casting wizard, and his studious interests and prideful sense of superiority making him look down on Horace's genuine attempts to bond with him, such as fishing together, which he did with his own father and very much enjoyed. Horace's interactions with Sara and Eric indicate that he's a much better father figure in their lives than Eugene himself, and he regularly checks up on them in the afterlife to make sure they're doing ok, whereas Eugene willingly accepts never seeing his family in the afterlife without a second thought. Furthermore, whilst Horace was willing to be convinced to enrol enroll Eugene in Magic University so he could follow the career he was passionate in, Eugene never extended the same courtesy to Horace's own career as a fighter, demeaning Roy when he chose to follow in his Grandfather's footsteps and being contemptuous that he'd ever succeed in making a successful carer career of it. Horace bitterly notes that even when his son was young he was disrespectful towards him and openly called him stupid multiple times, making it clear that Horace was not the father that Eugene wanted despite his efforts to be a good parent to him regardless.
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* AntiVillain: As opposed to his daughter, there's nothing to indicate that he's a bad person, on the contrary he states that he set up the bandits with the aim of only stealing from rich or otherwise deserving targets, and on several occasions he shows himself to be a reasonable man willing to hear out others and give fair weight to what they have to say. His stuck being an opponent of the Order, however.

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* AntiVillain: As opposed to his daughter, there's nothing to indicate that he's a bad person, on the contrary he states that he set up the bandits with the aim of only stealing from rich or otherwise deserving targets, and on several occasions he shows himself to be a reasonable man willing to hear out others and give fair weight to what they have to say. His He is stuck being an opponent of the Order, however.

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* ArcVillain: She's the most powerful opponent of a mini-arc that ultimately has little to nothing to do with the comic's larger story. She's just a bump in the road while the Order is on a sidequest.



* MuggingTheMonster: Her attempt to compel Miko magically to serve her doesn't exactly work out well for her at all.
* TheStarscream: Prior to the events of the series, she usurps control of the bandits from her father.
* UngratefulBastard: Upon being freed by a stranger, Samantha's immediately attempts to enslave her rescuer magically.

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* MuggingTheMonster: Her attempt to compel Miko magically to serve her doesn't exactly work out well for her at all.
* TheStarscream: Prior to the events of the series, she usurps usurped control of the bandits from her father.
* UngratefulBastard: Upon being freed by a stranger, Samantha's Samantha immediately attempts to magically enslave her rescuer magically.rescuer.


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* AntiVillain: As opposed to his daughter, there's nothing to indicate that he's a bad person, on the contrary he states that he set up the bandits with the aim of only stealing from rich or otherwise deserving targets, and on several occasions he shows himself to be a reasonable man willing to hear out others and give fair weight to what they have to say. His stuck being an opponent of the Order, however.

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* CoolSword: A spiritual copy of the Greenhilt family sword.

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* CoolSword: A The Greenhilt Sword, his family's namesake greatsword, which he still carries as a spiritual copy in the afterlife.
* TheDragonslayer: Amongst Horace's most notable feats are the slaying
of the Greenhilt family sword.red and green dragons of Reddragonsville. According to him, the green dragon of Reddragonsville was a much more difficult kill.


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* MasterSwordsman: Like his grandson Roy, Horace was a single-classed fighter focused on greatsword combat with his namesake weapon. He passes on some of his knowledge to Roy, such as the Spellsplinter Maneuver, which no fighter alive knew anymore until Roy learned it. Furthermore, the Greenhilt Sword was a standard greatsword until Roy had it imbued with starmetal, meaning that Horace likely achieved his most heroic feats, such as the slaying of the red and green dragons of Reddragonsville, with a ''non-magical'' weapon.

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* AmbiguousGender: Inkyrius is not referred to as "Mother" or "Father" by their children and is instead referred to as "Parent".



* AmbiguousGender: Inkyrius is not referred to as "Mother" or "Father" by their children and is instead referred to as "Parent".
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* GenderConcealingWriting: Inkyrius is not reffered to as "Mother" or "Father" by their children and is instead reffered to as "Parent".

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* GenderConcealingWriting: AmbiguousGender: Inkyrius is not reffered referred to as "Mother" or "Father" by their children and is instead reffered referred to as "Parent".



* GenderConcealingWriting: Like their parents, their gender identities remain unknown.

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* GenderConcealingWriting: AmbiguousGender: Like their parents, both their gender identities genders remain unknown.
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* UnequalRites: Openly contemptuous of Xykon once he learns his opponent is not a mage, but is instead a sorcerer.

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* UnequalRites: Openly contemptuous of Xykon once he learns his opponent is not a mage, wizard, but is instead a sorcerer.

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* AllLowercaseLetters: All the orcs' speech bubbles are in lowercase, including the chieftain's and the shaman's.



* AllLowercaseLetters: Speaks in these.



* ThirdPersonPerson: Like the other orcs, he refers to himself by his name instead of the pronoun 'I.'



* AllLowercaseLetters: Like Grukgruk, he speaks in these.



A two-headed giant encountered by O-Chul and his party during their search for the hobgoblin base during the events of ''How the Paladin Got His Scar''.

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A two-headed giant encountered by O-Chul and his party during their search for the hobgoblin base during the events of ''How "How the Paladin Got His Scar''.Scar".
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[[folder:In General]]
* ThirdPersonPerson: The island orcs talk like this. Given their comment about how first-person pronouns intrigue them, it may suggest they don't exist in the orc language.
* YouNoTakeCandle: Lampshaded. Once the orcs see a second group chasing the heroes (actually an illusion conjured by a panicking Elan), they let them do the job and go back to studying grammar, verb conjugation, capital letters and first-person pronouns.
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A two-headed giant encountered by O-Chul and his party during their search for the hobgoblin base.

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A two-headed giant encountered by O-Chul and his party during their search for the hobgoblin base.base during the events of ''How the Paladin Got His Scar''.



* FauxAffablyEvil: The right head. During the fight he uses a reasonable tone, but when Saha kills the left head, he furiously calls her a bitch and attacks her.

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* FauxAffablyEvil: The right head. During the fight he uses a reasonable tone, but when comes up with increasingly bizarre reasons not to stop the left head's rampage and attacks on the heroes. When Saha kills the left head, he the right head drops the act almost immediately and furiously calls her a bitch insults and attacks her.her. As O-Chul points out, if it had been telling the truth, it would have welcomed being freed from the influence of the murderous and deranged other head.
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: He behaves like a concerned father who's invested in his son's life in his first appearance. It's also implied he's up in heaven with his late wife by how he asks Roy if it's too much to ask for him to Speak With The Dead with both of them. It's {{Retcon}}ned to him just being impatient and thrusting Roy to kill Xykon, while also being trapped outside the afterlife separated from his wife, who he's estranged from anyway.

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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: He behaves like a concerned father who's invested in his son's life in his first appearance. It's also implied he's up in heaven with his late wife by how he asks Roy if it's too much to ask for him to Speak With The Dead ''speak with dead'' with both of them. It's {{Retcon}}ned to him just being impatient and thrusting Roy to kill Xykon, while also being trapped outside the afterlife separated from his wife, who he's estranged from anyway.
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->''"--then Teri, you double back and refit the peanut bowls on all the tables where the number of guests is a prime number. Any questions?"''

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->''"--then Teri, you double back and refit refill the peanut bowls on all the tables where the number of guests is a prime number. Any questions?"''
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: He behaves like a concerned father who's invested in his son's life in his first appearance. It's {{Retcon}}ned to him just being impatient and thrusting Roy to kill Xykon.

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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: He behaves like a concerned father who's invested in his son's life in his first appearance. It's also implied he's up in heaven with his late wife by how he asks Roy if it's too much to ask for him to Speak With The Dead with both of them. It's {{Retcon}}ned to him just being impatient and thrusting Roy to kill Xykon.Xykon, while also being trapped outside the afterlife separated from his wife, who he's estranged from anyway.

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