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** Bebop and Rocksteady are considered the best standouts in the movie due their mutant designs, chemistry with each other, their [[Heterosexual Life Partners bromance]], and having the funniest moments in the movie.
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** Climactically, the film's big battle was between the Turtles and [[spoiler: Krang]] high in the air while April's battle took somewhere below. Six years later, WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheTeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesTheMovie was released and we're treated to [[spoiler: the Turtles fighting Krang One high in the air while April fights Krang Two somewhere on the ground]].
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* NauseaFuel: When Bebop and Rocksteady are eating spaghetti messily out of oil drums, Rocksteady decides to finish up by slurping a long spaghetti noodle in through his ears and through his nostrils down into his mouth.
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* NauseaFuel: When Bebop and Rocksteady are eating spaghetti messily out of oil drums, Rocksteady Bebop decides to finish up by slurping a long spaghetti noodle in through his ears and through his nostrils down into his mouth.
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* PopularWithFurries: While the first movie was relatively quiet from this part of the internet, due to the UncannyValley design of the Turtles and general lack of other mutant characters besides Splinter, this movie's versions of Bebop and Rocksteady still enjoy quite a lot of popularity. Mostly due to their designs, with [[LeatherMan their clothing]] [[WalkingShirtlessScene leaving little to the imagination]], as well as [[CursedWithAwesome seemingly embracing their sudden transformations]]. Overlaps a bit with LGBTFanbase, due to their [[BaraGenre heavyset designs]] and [[HoYay tender, borderline romantic relationship with each other]].
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* UncannyValley: Like the first film, the use of motion capture on the turtles looks off at times, albeit it's not as disturbing as it was before (short of the part where [[spoiler:Donnie's hand briefly morphs into a human hand]]).
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* UncannyValley: UnintentionalUncannyValley: Like the first film, the use of motion capture on the turtles looks off at times, albeit it's not as disturbing as it was before (short of the part where [[spoiler:Donnie's hand briefly morphs into a human hand]]).
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* UncannyValley: Hoo boy... The Turtles fell into this ''hard'', with complaints about their looks being first and foremost among fans of all types.
** It gets worse in the comic-style cutscenes. The Turtles just look a little...off...with their realistic looks drawn in a stylistic comic book way.
** Just as in the [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012 show this is loosely based on]], the Krangs' disguises [[InvokedTrope are meant to highlight this effect]], looking very fake.
** It gets worse in the comic-style cutscenes. The Turtles just look a little...off...with their realistic looks drawn in a stylistic comic book way.
** Just as in the [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012 show this is loosely based on]], the Krangs' disguises [[InvokedTrope are meant to highlight this effect]], looking very fake.
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* UncannyValley: Hoo boy... The Turtles fell into this ''hard'', with complaints about their looks being first and foremost among fans of all types.
** It gets worse in the comic-style cutscenes.UnintentionalUncannyValley: The Turtles just look a little...off... in the comic style cutscenes, with their realistic looks drawn in a stylistic comic book way.
** Just as in the [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012 show this is loosely based on]], the Krangs' disguises [[InvokedTrope are meant to highlight this effect]], looking very fake.
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** It gets worse in the comic-style cutscenes.
** Just as in the [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012 show this is loosely based on]], the Krangs' disguises [[InvokedTrope are meant to highlight this effect]], looking very fake.
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** The amount of characters and references from the 1987 series. While some appreciate the fact that beloved characters such as Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady finally came over to the big screen, others see it as simply PanderingToTheBase and [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters overcrowding the movie]], due to the writers relying too heavily on nostalgic callbacks in order to force the fan's approval.
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** The amount of characters and references from the 1987 series. While some appreciate the fact that beloved characters such as Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady finally came over to the big screen, others see it as simply PanderingToTheBase and [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters overcrowding the movie]], movie, due to the writers relying too heavily on nostalgic callbacks in order to force the fan's approval.
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** Casey Jones is depicted as a police officer in this movie, spending very little time with his iconic mask. The crossover comic ''ComicBook/BatmanTeenageMutantNinjaTurtles III'' also has him be a police officer at first, but he regains his usual thug persona and wears his mask more often once his amnesia is cured.
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** As per norm, Bebop and Rocksteady are living incarnate of this.
** Casey's partner not keeping their shotgun loaded while transporting Shredder. Casey calls him out on this.
** As per norm, Bebop and Rocksteady are living incarnate of this.
** Casey's partner not keeping their shotgun loaded while transporting Shredder. Casey calls him out on this.
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** A lot of the times when Casey is trying to be serious, which are undermined by both the cliché dialogue Casey is given (his "soon I'll be detective!" speech early on being a good example), and Stephen Amell's odd decision to try and over-act the role. Doesn't help that he's had the bizarre backstory change of becoming a rookie cop instead of a delinquent vigilante.
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** Stephen Amell was considered too off for Casey Jones.
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** Stephen Amell was considered too off for Casey Jones. Casey is an extroverted character with a [[LargeHam certain level of ham to him]], while Stephen Amell is an actor who's talents work better for playing a [[TheStoic restrained and stoic character]]; Amell's [[Series/{{Arrow}} most famous role]] gave his character an AdaptationalPersonalityChange that worked for his talents, but despite having a different backstory here, Casey is still written to be the loudmouth jabrony as before, making Amell's portrayal of him stand out even more.
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!!The FanFic:
* HypotheticalCasting: WordOfGod does this with several characters, mostly {{Original Character}}:
** Creator/WendeeLee as Kasumi
** Creator/KateHiggins as Kagome
** Creator/KirkThornton as Kohaku
** Creator/LaurenLanda as Vee
** Creator/CheramiLeigh as Hisako
** Creator/TaraStrong as Robyn
** Creator/PatrickSeitz as Old Hob
** Creator/JustinCook as Dragon Face
** Creator/JenniferHale as Gina/Tokka and Mika
** Creator/StevenBlum as Krang and the Alpha Pygos
** Creator/ChristopherSabat as Hun
** Creator/KennyGreen as Rat King
** Creator/RBruceElliott as Harold and Shiden
** Creator/JamieMarchi as Angel
** Creator/VicMignogna as Samson
** Creator/SamRiegel as Sam/Zephyr
** Creator/PatriciaJaLee as Seiko
** Creator/BrycePapenbrook as Tai
** Creator/KariWahlgren as Mizuki
** Creator/CassandraLeeMorris as Erika
** Creator/ToddHaberkorn as Makoto
** Creator/TrinaNishimura as Jade
** Creator/LuciChristian as Akemi
** Creator/EdenRiegel as Hana
** Creator/KateBristol as Airi
** Creator/LauraBailey as Asuka
** Creator/TroyBaker as Quarry
** Creator/NeveCampbell as Sydney
** Creator/LiamOBrien as the High Mage/Entity
** Creator/KharyPeyton as Silver Sentry
** Creator/KyleHebert as Bludgeon
** Creator/DaveWittenberg as Man Ray
** Creator/JKSimmons as Burne
** Creator/AshlyBurch as Kara
** Creator/MaryElizabethMcGlynn as Rebecca
** Creator/RobertCostanzo as Sterns
** Creator/GreyDeLisle as Kitsune
** Creator/BrinaPalencia as Jeanne de Frog
** Creator/CrispinFreeman as Dask
** Creator/StephanieSheh as Trib
** Creator/AliHillis as Amaya
** Creator/KeoneYoung as Li
** Creator/LoriPetty as Viral
** Creator/PaulStPeter as Sh'Okanabo
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* PortingDisaster: The PC version has no graphical options outside of changing the screen resolution, a bug that doesn't allow players to exit from menus forcing them to close the game by other means, co-op not working at all if you use private lobbies or invite friends, the turtles getting stuck during gameplay and many other problems.
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* PortingDisaster: The PC version has no graphical options outside of changing the screen resolution, a bug that doesn't allow players to exit from menus forcing them to close the game by other means, co-op not working at all if you use private lobbies or invite friends, the turtles Turtles getting stuck during gameplay and many other problems.
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** It's easy to get lost in the environments on first play through, or go the wrong way. The AI turtles never offer any help, other than shouts of "We've been here too long!"
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*** Happens in Survival mode, too. Particularly the warehouse level, where enemies sometimes freeze in spots where you can't get to them, or mousers will clip through environments and get stuck.
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*** Happens in Survival mode, too. Particularly the warehouse level, where enemies sometimes freeze in spots where you can't get to them, or mousers Mousers will clip through environments and get stuck.
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** The third is a very updated look for Krang's android body, with sleek lines, articulated hands and no familiar face, though the living brain is still situated in the machine's stomach. And last is a "Capsule Walker" design which looks closer to the mech used in the 2012 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles animated series.
* PanderingToTheBase: With the introduction of Casey Jones, Bebop and Rocksteady, the Turtle Van, the Foot clan being ninjas, the redesign of the turtles, and the introduction of Krang, some people feel that the movie is simply aiming for nostalgia factor and little else. See JustHereForGodzilla above. Given that the end credits play a cover of the 1980's cartoon's theme, it seems pretty obvious this was in effect.
* PanderingToTheBase: With the introduction of Casey Jones, Bebop and Rocksteady, the Turtle Van, the Foot clan being ninjas, the redesign of the turtles, and the introduction of Krang, some people feel that the movie is simply aiming for nostalgia factor and little else. See JustHereForGodzilla above. Given that the end credits play a cover of the 1980's cartoon's theme, it seems pretty obvious this was in effect.
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** The third is a very updated look for Krang's android body, with sleek lines, articulated hands and no familiar face, though the living brain is still situated in the machine's stomach. And last is a "Capsule Walker" design which looks closer to the mech used in the 2012 Teenage ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Turtles'' animated series.
* PanderingToTheBase: With the introduction of Casey Jones, Bebop and Rocksteady, the Turtle Van, the Footclan Clan being ninjas, the redesign of the turtles, Turtles, and the introduction of Krang, some people feel that the movie is simply aiming for nostalgia factor and little else. See JustHereForGodzilla above. Given that the end credits play a cover of the 1980's cartoon's theme, it seems pretty obvious this was in effect.
* PanderingToTheBase: With the introduction of Casey Jones, Bebop and Rocksteady, the Turtle Van, the Foot
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The idea of the turtles being able to become human is an interesting one, but the film doesn't do much with it other than use it to set up the inevitable PlotMandatedFriendshipFailure.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The idea of the turtles Turtles being able to become human is an interesting one, but the film doesn't do much with it other than use it to set up the inevitable PlotMandatedFriendshipFailure.
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* NightmareFuel: Krang. Just the Krang.
** The Krang concept art by Krichevsky has a decidedly darker tone than the animated series.
** The first design has some throwback flair, showing the alien warlord brain in the belly of a large android with glowing blue eyes. Of course, this looks similar to the one used in the original animated series that ran from 1987 to 1996, but with a more sinister feel. After that is a set of metal legs/tentacles, with Krang riding atop them.
** The third is a very updated look for Krang's android body, with sleek lines, articulated hands and no familiar face, though the living brain is still situated in the machine's stomach. And last is a "Capsule Walker" design which looks closer to the mech used in the 2012 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles animated series.
** The Krang concept art by Krichevsky has a decidedly darker tone than the animated series.
** The first design has some throwback flair, showing the alien warlord brain in the belly of a large android with glowing blue eyes. Of course, this looks similar to the one used in the original animated series that ran from 1987 to 1996, but with a more sinister feel. After that is a set of metal legs/tentacles, with Krang riding atop them.
** The third is a very updated look for Krang's android body, with sleek lines, articulated hands and no familiar face, though the living brain is still situated in the machine's stomach. And last is a "Capsule Walker" design which looks closer to the mech used in the 2012 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles animated series.
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*** And now we have Casey meeting Vern Fenwick, played by Creator/WillArnett, making this the closest thing we'll get to the Green Arrow working with [[WesternAnimation/TheLegoMovie Batman!]]
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*** And now we have Casey meeting Vern Fenwick, played by Creator/WillArnett, making this the closest thing we'll get to the Green Arrow working with [[WesternAnimation/TheLegoMovie Batman!]]Batman]] in live action!
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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: The sheer ''sincerity'' with which this line is delivered; doubly so considering it's uttered by the angry-cynic of the quartet.
--> '''Reporter:''' Are you superheroes?\\
'''Raphael:''' [[BullyHunter We're just four brothers who hate bullies, and love this city.]]
--> '''Reporter:''' Are you superheroes?\\
'''Raphael:''' [[BullyHunter We're just four brothers who hate bullies, and love this city.]]
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** However, Garrett [[HaveWeMet previously worked on comedy projects with Krang's original voice actor]], Creator/PatFraley, so it would make sense that while he wouldn't necessarily perform with the right pitch, he at least got the sarcastic, blubbering, and bouncy aspect of Krang's voice down.
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** However, Garrett [[HaveWeMet previously worked on comedy projects with Krang's original voice actor]], Creator/PatFraley, so it would make sense that while he wouldn't necessarily perform with the right pitch, he at least got the sarcastic, blubbering, and bouncy aspect of Krang's voice down. Some have admitted the dude at least makes the voice his own and still fits with the character regardless.
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** Creator/CassandraLee as Erika
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** Creator/CassandraLee Creator/CassandraLeeMorris as Erika
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Stephen Amell was well-received when it was revealed he would play Casey Jones, but there have been some complaints over his lack of a resemblance to the character, namely that instead of the medium-length hairstyle Casey has been known for in most incarnations, the trailer shows him to maintain a close-cropped style. [[note]]This may be justified given that Amell needs the short haircut to play Oliver Queen in Arrow, in fact having to use a wig whenever they do the flashbacks to show a much less groomed Oliver. And also because filming for season 3 of Arrow only ended in the same month that filming for ''Out of the Shadows'' started.[[/note]] [[spoiler:The fact that Casey Jones is a police officer in this film, and thus would probably have a shorter, closer to regulation, haircut is probably a good reason for it canonically.]]
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
** Stephen Amell was well-received when it was revealed he would play Casey Jones, but there have been some complaints over his lack of a resemblance to the character, namely that instead of the medium-length hairstyle Casey has been known for in most incarnations, the trailer shows him to maintain a close-cropped style. [[note]]This may be justified given that Amell needs the short haircut to play Oliver Queen in Arrow, in fact having to use a wig whenever they do the flashbacks to show a much less groomed Oliver. And also because filming for season 3 of Arrow only ended in the same month that filming for ''Out of the Shadows'' started.[[/note]] [[spoiler:The fact that Casey Jones is a police officer in this film, and thus would probably have a shorter, closer to regulation, haircut is probably a good reason for it canonically.]]]]
** April isn't liked either thanks to her awkward sexualization and Megan Fox's bland performance. It didn't help that Fox's performance seemed like a step-down from the 2014 movie. Many prefer her portrayal in the first film.
** Stephen Amell was well-received when it was revealed he would play Casey Jones, but there have been some complaints over his lack of a resemblance to the character, namely that instead of the medium-length hairstyle Casey has been known for in most incarnations, the trailer shows him to maintain a close-cropped style. [[note]]This may be justified given that Amell needs the short haircut to play Oliver Queen in Arrow, in fact having to use a wig whenever they do the flashbacks to show a much less groomed Oliver. And also because filming for season 3 of Arrow only ended in the same month that filming for ''Out of the Shadows'' started.[[/note]] [[spoiler:The fact that Casey Jones is a police officer in this film, and thus would probably have a shorter, closer to regulation, haircut is probably a good reason for it canonically.
** April isn't liked either thanks to her awkward sexualization and Megan Fox's bland performance. It didn't help that Fox's performance seemed like a step-down from the 2014 movie. Many prefer her portrayal in the first film.
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** The film's portrayal of Casey Jones is not well-liked when compared to the original character's [[EnsembleDarkhorse darkhorse reputation]]. Many viewers reason that the film wasted what could have been a near-perfect casting for the character and forced him to play a [[TheGenericGuy bland, generic bore]] [[InNameOnly that the film doesn't even try to give any resemblance to his more beloved counterparts]].
** April isn't liked either thanks to her awkward sexualization and Megan Fox's bland performance. It didn't help that Fox's performance seemed like a step-down from the 2014 movie.
** The film's incarnation of Krang, due to his awkward introduction into the narrative, his [[GenericDoomsdayVillain vague characterization]] and cliche dialogue with other characters, and small screentime (appearing only in the first and final acts) despite being the main villain.
** The film's portrayal of Casey Jones is not well-liked when compared to the original character's [[EnsembleDarkhorse darkhorse reputation]]. Many viewers reason that the film wasted what could have been a near-perfect casting for the character and forced him to play a [[TheGenericGuy bland, generic bore]] [[InNameOnly that the film doesn't even try to give any resemblance to his more beloved counterparts]].
** April isn't liked either thanks to her awkward sexualization and Megan Fox's bland performance. It didn't help that Fox's performance seemed like a step-down from the 2014 movie.
** The film's incarnation of Krang, due to his awkward introduction into the narrative, his [[GenericDoomsdayVillain vague characterization]] and cliche dialogue with other characters, and small screentime (appearing only in the first and final acts) despite being the main villain.
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* {{Fanon}}: The scene where the Turtles are tormented with the decision of whether to stay mutant or take the purple mutagen and become humans permanently. While the Turtles choose to stay mutant and destroy the purple mutagen, this hasn't stopped fans from imagining what could have been.
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* {{Fanon}}: FanficFuel: The scene where the Turtles are tormented with the decision of whether to stay mutant mutant, or take the purple mutagen and become humans permanently. While the Turtles choose to stay mutant and destroy the purple mutagen, this hasn't stopped fans from imagining what could have been.
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** The film's incarnation of Krang was rather disliked due to his awkward introduction into the narrative, lacking presence within the film's plot (only appearing in the first and final acts of the movie), and cliche dialogue with the other castmembers.
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** Instead of having the mutagen simply mutate animals and humans who came in contact with them into human-animal hybrids, the movie tries to explain that it "mutates humans into the animals they've evolved from". Essentially throwing the perfectly reasonable explanation away for [[ArtisticLicenseBiology something that makes no biological sense]], which many found laughable.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The fact that it was a sequel to the [[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2014 2014 film]] turned at least some people away, with even defenders admitting that being tied to the previous film hurt this one. That wasn't the ''only'' reason this film was a BoxOfficeBomb, since it was released during a ''very'' packed Summer, but it almost certainly didn't help, either.
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** Even if the message of BeYourself needed to be enforced among the turtles to prove that they don't need to be human to accepted by society, this doesn't change the fact that being able to supposedly assume a temporary human form would have been an invaluable asset to them as ninjas. Raphael just smashes it to pieces without thinking of the possibilities.
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** The slight changes to the turtles design have been welcomed as well, particularly the fact they seem slimmed down in a way as well as the noses looking better than the previous film.
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** The completely gratuitous shot of April [[BareYourMidriff bearing her midriff]] for no apparent reason got quite a few groans, with many suspecting ExecutiveMeddling on Creator/MichaelBay's part. It doesn't help that pretty much every trailer used the scene.
** Creator/MeganFox's performance once again leaves something to be desired, and often looks either mildly confused or just bored.
** Instead of having a traditionally high and undulating voice, Krang now has the baritones of Creator/BradGarrett. Instead of sounding like a comedic villain that could be taken seriously in the right situations, the overlord of Dimension X now sounds like [[Franchise/PowerRangers Goldar]].
** Creator/MeganFox's performance once again leaves something to be desired, and often looks either mildly confused or just bored.
** Instead of having a traditionally high and undulating voice, Krang now has the baritones of Creator/BradGarrett. Instead of sounding like a comedic villain that could be taken seriously in the right situations, the overlord of Dimension X now sounds like [[Franchise/PowerRangers Goldar]].
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%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample * EarWorm: The cover of the original TMNT theme that plays over the first part of the credits.
