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* [[HePannedItNowHeSucks They Panned It, Now They Suck]]: Every major video game critic in the U.S. stem from this, given that some of the reviewers may not be even fans of the shoot 'em up genre to begin with.
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* EvilIsSexy: While Lili's not inherently evil in any way, whenever her [[CuteAndPsycho psycho]] [[SplitPersonality switch]] turns on, she goes from being [[{{Moe}} meek]] to someone who's quite seductive.
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* BrokenBase: The art change in ''Senko no Ronde 2'' has fans torn in three ways: swearing off buying the game, disliking it but still planning on getting the game (and fearing the backlash), and a few like it. Mitigated that the story mode from DUO has been ported wholesale, complete with the character design.

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* BrokenBase: The art change in ''Senko no Ronde 2'' has fans torn in three ways: swearing off buying the game, disliking it but still planning on getting the game (and fearing the backlash), and a few like it. Mitigated that It ends after the story mode from DUO has been ported wholesale, complete with the original character design.
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* FanNickname: Because the ''other'' FinalBoss of the first game has [[NoNameGiven no officially given name]], fans refer to its first form as either "Squid" due to its squid-like appearance or "[=NoName=]". The latter could also be applied to its Rounder-like second form.
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* SpiritualAdaptation: ''Senko no Ronde'' is possibly the closest thing to a ''Toward the Terra'' game that nobody has never played. Alternatively, it's ''Virtual-ON'' [-IN TWO DIMENSIONS!-]

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* SpiritualAdaptation: ''Senko no Ronde'' is possibly the closest thing to a ''Toward the Terra'' ''Manga/TowardTheTerra'' game that nobody has never played. Alternatively, it's ''Virtual-ON'' [-IN TWO DIMENSIONS!-]
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* BrokenBase: The art change in ''Senko no Ronde 2'' has fans torn in three ways: swearing off buying the game, disliking it but still planning on getting the game (and fearing the backlash), and a few like it.

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* BrokenBase: The art change in ''Senko no Ronde 2'' has fans torn in three ways: swearing off buying the game, disliking it but still planning on getting the game (and fearing the backlash), and a few like it. Mitigated that the story mode from DUO has been ported wholesale, complete with the character design.

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* HilariousInHindsight: ''Senko no Ronde'' was often dubbed as "''VideoGame/VirtualOn'' in 2D" by fans of these games. Fast-forward to late 2017, G.rev revealed on an issue of Famitsu a {{crossover}} DLC featuring Temjin from Sega's ''Virtual-ON'' as a playable character (along with the titular Assault Suit from NCS's ''VideoGame/AssaultSuitsValken'').

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* HilariousInHindsight: ''Senko no Ronde'' was often dubbed as "''VideoGame/VirtualOn'' in 2D" by fans of these games. Fast-forward to late 2017, G.rev revealed on an issue of Famitsu a {{crossover}} DLC featuring Temjin from Sega's ''Virtual-ON'' as a playable character (along with the titular Assault Suit from NCS's ''VideoGame/AssaultSuitsValken'').''VideoGame/AssaultSuitsValken'') and finally release on November 2017.


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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: A few points of contention rose with ''Senko no Ronde 2'', especially for those that were able to play the original ''Senko no Ronde DUO''.
** The aforementioned artstyle changed for the characters which put off some players and fans of the original artists' artstyle (the character art were previously handled Shuji Sogabe and Mizuki Takayama from the first game and in ''DUO''). Although the original character art from ''DUO'' can be seen in the Story Mode since it was ported from Xbox 360 version, many wish they could have the original artists back for the rest of the game.
** Removing the ability to select your support character and having prefixed them per character in ''2'', which many argued that it limits the match-up potential that ''DUO'' originally had. This was thankfully remedied with the ''Virtual-ON & Assault Suit Valken DLC'' update which brought back the ability to select any support character.
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* BrokenBase: The art change in''Senko no Ronde 2'' has fans torn in three ways: swearing off buying the game, disliking it but still planning on getting the game (and fearing the backlash), and a few like it.

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* BrokenBase: The art change in''Senko in ''Senko no Ronde 2'' has fans torn in three ways: swearing off buying the game, disliking it but still planning on getting the game (and fearing the backlash), and a few like it.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The game's soundtrack is composed by a former ZUNTATA composer afterall.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The game's soundtrack is composed by a former ZUNTATA composer afterall.after all.


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* PlayTheGameSkipTheStory: A common complaint about the first ''Senko no Ronde'' on the Xbox 360 was how the Story Mode was presented. In order for players to get to certain branching paths, they must listen in on or ignore certain dialogue or allow the opponent to go B.O.S.S. mode and survive. What makes this egregious is that players must draw the battle out as long as possible for the characters to interact, which also means taking your attention off your opponent to read the subtitles of what they're saying while they pull no punches of their own, leading to players to ignore most of the story. Furthermore, narrative isn't built at all during the Story Mode and trusts you into a battle with little context of why you're fighting the opponent the game pits you against, yet the game's in-game encyclopedia can fill you in on what's happening after the fact. The sequel addressed this with dialogue that properly takes place before and after matches with its Story Mode.

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* SpiritualAdaptation: ''Senko no Ronde'' is possibly the closest thing to a ''Toward the Terra'' game that nobody has never played. Alternatively, it's ''VideoGame/VirtualOn'' [-IN TWO DIMENSIONS!-]

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* HilariousInHindsight: ''Senko no Ronde'' was often dubbed as "''VideoGame/VirtualOn'' in 2D" by fans of these games. Fast-forward to late 2017, G.rev revealed on an issue of Famitsu a {{crossover}} DLC featuring Temjin from Sega's ''Virtual-ON'' as a playable character (along with the titular Assault Suit from NCS's ''VideoGame/AssaultSuitsValken'').
* SpiritualAdaptation: ''Senko no Ronde'' is possibly the closest thing to a ''Toward the Terra'' game that nobody has never played. Alternatively, it's ''VideoGame/VirtualOn'' ''Virtual-ON'' [-IN TWO DIMENSIONS!-]



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* BrokenBase: The art change in''Senko no Ronde 2'' has fans torn in three ways: swearing off buying the game, disliking it but still planning on getting the game (and fearing the backlash), and a few like it.

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* SpiritualLicensee: ''Senko no Ronde'' is possibly the closest thing to a ''Toward the Terra'' game that nobody has never played. Alternatively, it's ''VideoGame/VirtualOn'' [-IN TWO DIMENSIONS!-]

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* SpiritualLicensee: SpiritualAdaptation: ''Senko no Ronde'' is possibly the closest thing to a ''Toward the Terra'' game that nobody has never played. Alternatively, it's ''VideoGame/VirtualOn'' [-IN TWO DIMENSIONS!-]



** They haven't been since the mid 90's at latest.
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* SpiritualLicensee: ''Senko no Ronde'' is possibly the closest thing to a ''Toward the Terra'' game that nobody has never played.

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* SpiritualLicensee: ''Senko no Ronde'' is possibly the closest thing to a ''Toward the Terra'' game that nobody has never played. Alternatively, it's ''VideoGame/VirtualOn'' [-IN TWO DIMENSIONS!-]
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* AwesomeMusic: The game's soundtrack is composed by a former ZUNTATA composer afterall.

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* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The game's soundtrack is composed by a former ZUNTATA composer afterall.
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* NeedsMoreLove: With all the effort poured into ''Senko no Ronde'''s development -- a storyline and artstyle heavily influenced by ''Manga/TowardTheTerra'', mechnical design of the artist behind the ''VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}}'' series (for Episodes ''I'' and ''II''), musical composition of a ex-ZUNTATA member, and combining [[FightingGame two]] [[ShootEmUp genres]] no one would expect to be possible -- only to receive harsh criticism in the U.S. for the {{Xbox 360}} version. It is perhaps one of most the unappreciated Xbox 360 titles to be released outside of Japan.
** The fact it was released on a system whose fanbase majority is naturally unappreciative of the shoot 'em ups genre; though this was before the shoot 'em up explosion on the Xbox 360 (Creator/{{CAVE}} with their various classics on XBLA and region-free imports).
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* SpiritualLicensee: ''Senko no Ronde'' is possibly the closest thing to a ''Toward the Terra'' game that nobody has never played.
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* NeedsMoreLove: With all the effort poured into ''Senko no Ronde'''s development -- a storyline and artstyle heavily influenced by ''Manga/TowardTheTerra'', mechnical design of the artist behind the ''Videogame/{{Xenosaga}}'' series (for Episodes ''I'' and ''II''), musical composition of a ex-ZUNATA member, and combining [[FightingGame two]] [[ShootEmUp genres]] no one would expect to be possible -- only to receive harsh criticism in the U.S. for the {{Xbox 360}} version. It is perhaps one of most the unappreciated Xbox 360 titles to be released outside of Japan.

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* NeedsMoreLove: With all the effort poured into ''Senko no Ronde'''s development -- a storyline and artstyle heavily influenced by ''Manga/TowardTheTerra'', mechnical design of the artist behind the ''Videogame/{{Xenosaga}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}}'' series (for Episodes ''I'' and ''II''), musical composition of a ex-ZUNATA ex-ZUNTATA member, and combining [[FightingGame two]] [[ShootEmUp genres]] no one would expect to be possible -- only to receive harsh criticism in the U.S. for the {{Xbox 360}} version. It is perhaps one of most the unappreciated Xbox 360 titles to be released outside of Japan.



* ThatOneAchievement: '''''All''''' of the online-specific Achievements in Xbox 360. How is this a problem, you may ask. There's little-to-no players playing online matches anymore, that's how!

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* ThatOneAchievement: '''''All''''' of the online-specific Achievements in the first game's Xbox 360.360 port. How is this a problem, you may ask. There's little-to-no players playing online matches anymore, that's how!how! And don't get us started with the '''[[FakeLongevity 1,000]]''' ranked matches Achievement...



* [[HePannedItNowHeSucks They Panned It, Now They Suck]]: Every major video game critic in the U.S. stem from this, given that some of the reviewers may not be even fans of the ShootEmUp genre to begin with.

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* [[HePannedItNowHeSucks They Panned It, Now They Suck]]: Every major video game critic in the U.S. stem from this, given that some of the reviewers may not be even fans of the ShootEmUp shoot 'em up genre to begin with.
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* EvilIsSexy: While Lili's not inherently evil in any way, whenever her [[CuteButPsycho psycho]] [[SplitPersonality switch]] turns on, she goes from being [[{{Moe}} meek]] to someone who's quite seductive.

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* EvilIsSexy: While Lili's not inherently evil in any way, whenever her [[CuteButPsycho [[CuteAndPsycho psycho]] [[SplitPersonality switch]] turns on, she goes from being [[{{Moe}} meek]] to someone who's quite seductive.
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* AwesomeMusic: The game's soundtrack is composed by a former ZUNATA composer afterall.

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* AwesomeMusic: The game's soundtrack is composed by a former ZUNATA ZUNTATA composer afterall.

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* NeedsMoreLove: With all the effort poured into ''Senko no Ronde'''s development -- A storyline and artstyle heavily influenced by ''TowardTheTerra'', mechnical design of the artist behind the ''Videogame/{{Xenosaga}}'' series (for Episodes ''I'' and ''II''), musical composition of a ex-ZUNATA member, and combining two genres no one would expect to be possible -- only to receive harsh criticism in the U.S. for the {{Xbox 360}} version. It is perhaps one of most the unappreciated Xbox 360 titles to be released outside of Japan.

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* EvilIsSexy: While Lili's not inherently evil in any way, whenever her [[CuteButPsycho psycho]] [[SplitPersonality switch]] turns on, she goes from being [[{{Moe}} meek]] to someone who's quite seductive.
* NeedsMoreLove: With all the effort poured into ''Senko no Ronde'''s development -- A a storyline and artstyle heavily influenced by ''TowardTheTerra'', ''Manga/TowardTheTerra'', mechnical design of the artist behind the ''Videogame/{{Xenosaga}}'' series (for Episodes ''I'' and ''II''), musical composition of a ex-ZUNATA member, and combining two genres [[FightingGame two]] [[ShootEmUp genres]] no one would expect to be possible -- only to receive harsh criticism in the U.S. for the {{Xbox 360}} version. It is perhaps one of most the unappreciated Xbox 360 titles to be released outside of Japan.



* ThatOneAchievement: '''''All''''' of the online-specific Achievements. How is this a problem, you may ask. There's little-to-no players playing online matches anymore, that's how!

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* ThatOneAchievement: '''''All''''' of the online-specific Achievements.Achievements in Xbox 360. How is this a problem, you may ask. There's little-to-no players playing online matches anymore, that's how!

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** The fact it was released on a system whose fanbase majority is naturally unappreciative of both shoot'em ups; though this was before the shmup explosion on the 360 (Cave, various classics on XBLA)

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** The fact it was released on a system whose fanbase majority is naturally unappreciative of both shoot'em ups; the shoot 'em ups genre; though this was before the shmup shoot 'em up explosion on the Xbox 360 (Cave, (Creator/{{CAVE}} with their various classics on XBLA)XBLA and region-free imports).
* ThatOneAchievement: '''''All''''' of the online-specific Achievements. How is this a problem, you may ask. There's little-to-no players playing online matches anymore, that's how!
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** The fact it was released on a system whose fanbase majority is naturally unappreciative of both shoot'em ups; though this was before the shmup explosion on the 360 (Cave, various classics on XBLA)


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** They haven't been since the mid 90's at latest.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The game's soundtrack is composed by a former ZUNATA composer afterall.
* NeedsMoreLove: With all the effort poured into ''Senko no Ronde'''s development -- A storyline and artstyle heavily influenced by ''TowardTheTerra'', mechnical design of the artist behind the ''Videogame/{{Xenosaga}}'' series (Episodes ''I'' and ''II''), musical composition of a ex-ZUNATA member, and combining two genres no one would expect to be possible -- only to receive scathing criticism in the U.S. for the {{Xbox 360}} version. It is perhaps one of most the unappreciated Xbox 360 titles to be released outside of Japan.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: AwesomeMusic: The game's soundtrack is composed by a former ZUNATA composer afterall.
* NeedsMoreLove: With all the effort poured into ''Senko no Ronde'''s development -- A storyline and artstyle heavily influenced by ''TowardTheTerra'', mechnical design of the artist behind the ''Videogame/{{Xenosaga}}'' series (Episodes (for Episodes ''I'' and ''II''), musical composition of a ex-ZUNATA member, and combining two genres no one would expect to be possible -- only to receive scathing harsh criticism in the U.S. for the {{Xbox 360}} version. It is perhaps one of most the unappreciated Xbox 360 titles to be released outside of Japan.



* [[HePannedItNowHeSucks They Panned It. Now They Suck]]: Every major video game critic in the U.S. stem from this, given that some of the reviewers may not be even fans of the ShootEmUp genre to begin with.

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* [[HePannedItNowHeSucks They Panned It. It, Now They Suck]]: Every major video game critic in the U.S. stem from this, given that some of the reviewers may not be even fans of the ShootEmUp genre to begin with.with.
* ViewerGenderConfusion: Cuilan, due to his already [[DudeLooksLikeALady puppy-dog looks]] and being dressed in rather [[WholesomeCrossdresser girlish]] outfits (thanks to Changpo).
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* NeedsMoreLove: With all the effort poured into ''Senko no Ronde'''s development -- A storyline and artstyle heavily influenced by ''TowardTheTerra'', mechnical design of the artist behind the ''{{Xenosaga}}'' series (Episodes ''I'' and ''II''), musical composition of a ex-ZUNATA member, and combining two genres no one would expect to be possible -- only to receive scathing criticism in the U.S. for the {{Xbox 360}} version. It is perhaps one of most the unappreciated Xbox 360 titles to be released outside of Japan.

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* NeedsMoreLove: With all the effort poured into ''Senko no Ronde'''s development -- A storyline and artstyle heavily influenced by ''TowardTheTerra'', mechnical design of the artist behind the ''{{Xenosaga}}'' ''Videogame/{{Xenosaga}}'' series (Episodes ''I'' and ''II''), musical composition of a ex-ZUNATA member, and combining two genres no one would expect to be possible -- only to receive scathing criticism in the U.S. for the {{Xbox 360}} version. It is perhaps one of most the unappreciated Xbox 360 titles to be released outside of Japan.
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* TheWoobie: Lili.

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* TheWoobie: Lili.Lili.
* [[HePannedItNowHeSucks They Panned It. Now They Suck]]: Every major video game critic in the U.S. stem from this, given that some of the reviewers may not be even fans of the ShootEmUp genre to begin with.
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* NeedsMoreLove: With all the effort poured into ''Senko no Ronde'''s development -- A storyline and artstyle heavily influenced by ''TowardTheTerra'', mechnical design of the artist behind the ''{{Xenosaga}}'' series (Episodes ''I'' and ''II''), musical composition of a ex-ZUNATA member, and combining two genres no one would expect to be possible -- only to receive scathing criticism in the U.S. for the {{Xbox 360}} version. It is perhaps one of most the unappreciated Xbox 360 titles to be released outside of Japan.

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* NeedsMoreLove: With all the effort poured into ''Senko no Ronde'''s development -- A storyline and artstyle heavily influenced by ''TowardTheTerra'', mechnical design of the artist behind the ''{{Xenosaga}}'' series (Episodes ''I'' and ''II''), musical composition of a ex-ZUNATA member, and combining two genres no one would expect to be possible -- only to receive scathing criticism in the U.S. for the {{Xbox 360}} version. It is perhaps one of most the unappreciated Xbox 360 titles to be released outside of Japan.Japan.
* TheWoobie: Lili.
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* NeedsMoreLove: With all the effort poured into ''Senko no Ronde'''s development -- A storyline and artstyle heavily influenced by ''TowardTheTerra'', mechnical design of the artist behind the ''{{Xenosaga}}'' series (Episodes ''I'' and ''II''), musical composition of a ex-ZUNATA member, and combining two genres no one would expect to be possible -- it is perhaps one of most the unappreciated {{Xbox 360}} titles to be released outside of Japan.

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* NeedsMoreLove: With all the effort poured into ''Senko no Ronde'''s development -- A storyline and artstyle heavily influenced by ''TowardTheTerra'', mechnical design of the artist behind the ''{{Xenosaga}}'' series (Episodes ''I'' and ''II''), musical composition of a ex-ZUNATA member, and combining two genres no one would expect to be possible -- it only to receive scathing criticism in the U.S. for the {{Xbox 360}} version. It is perhaps one of most the unappreciated {{Xbox 360}} Xbox 360 titles to be released outside of Japan.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The game's soundtrack is composed by a former ZUNATA composer afterall.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The game's soundtrack is composed by a former ZUNATA composer afterall.afterall.
* NeedsMoreLove: With all the effort poured into ''Senko no Ronde'''s development -- A storyline and artstyle heavily influenced by ''TowardTheTerra'', mechnical design of the artist behind the ''{{Xenosaga}}'' series (Episodes ''I'' and ''II''), musical composition of a ex-ZUNATA member, and combining two genres no one would expect to be possible -- it is perhaps one of most the unappreciated {{Xbox 360}} titles to be released outside of Japan.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The game's soundtrack is composed by a former ZUNATA composer afterall.

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