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* BilingualBonus: Subverted for the Latin chanting. One might expect a comedy troupe to hide a joke there, but the monks are chanting "Pious Lord Jesus, give them rest." A perfectly reasonable and realistic thing for monks to chant under the circumstances.
** Possibly double-subverted: Another translation of the phrase would be "Jesus Christ, make it stop" or "Jesus Christ, give us a break!" Possibly because they keep slapping themselves with the tablets.
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* {{Woolseyism}}: The Italian dub of the movie is a big one. As the original movie's humour was considered "too weird" for Italian audiences, almost every dialogue was rewritten with new jokes, making half of the movie's humour being either sex jokes or political satire about taxes (for example, half of the Black Knight's dialogue was replaced with him making homophobic remarks towards Arthur, Tim the wizard says he's training to become a fiscalist and the Knights who say Ni became the Knights who say [[PrecisionFStrike Fuck You]]). Because of this, the Italian dub of the movie is deeply hated by fans. To add salt to the wound, in the early 2000 all the ''Monty Python'' movies were redubbed with more faithful dialogues... except for ''The Holy Grail'', the only one that seriously needed a redub.

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* {{Woolseyism}}: The Italian dub of the movie is a big one.an example of this backfiring. As the original movie's humour was considered "too weird" for Italian audiences, almost every dialogue was rewritten with new jokes, making half of the movie's humour being either sex jokes or political satire about taxes (for example, half of the Black Knight's dialogue was replaced with him making homophobic remarks towards Arthur, Tim the wizard says he's training to become a fiscalist and the Knights who say Ni became the Knights who say [[PrecisionFStrike Fuck You]]). Because of this, the Italian dub of the movie is deeply hated by fans. To add salt to the wound, in the early 2000 all the ''Monty Python'' movies were redubbed with more faithful dialogues... except for ''The Holy Grail'', the only one that seriously needed a redub.
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** The Black Knight getting dismembered. John Cleese admitted as much in his commentary track. He explained that some viewers in America found the sequence horrifying because of [[TooSoon Vietnam War footage on the news]]; however, he noted that they began to laugh when BK's first leg got hacked off and he was still raring to go.

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** The Black Knight getting dismembered. John Cleese admitted as much in his commentary track. He explained that some viewers in America found the sequence horrifying because of [[TooSoon Vietnam War footage on the news]]; news; however, he noted that they began to laugh when BK's first leg got hacked off and he was still raring to go.
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** Possibly double-subverted: Another translation of the phrase would be "Jesus Christ, make it stop." Possibly because they keep slapping themselves with the tablets.

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** Possibly double-subverted: Another translation of the phrase would be "Jesus Christ, make it stop." stop" or "Jesus Christ, give us a break!" Possibly because they keep slapping themselves with the tablets.
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** The sword duel between King Arthur and the Black Knight may have mirrored the lightsaber duel between [[Franchise/StarWars Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi]] in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. A rare ''Star Wars'' prediction from a film that came out way before the ''Star Wars'' franchise could begin.

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** The antics of the Black Knight, staking out a little bridge and attacking anybody who tried to pass by, are based on a real practice called the ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pas_d%27armes pas d'armes]]''. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer Yes, knights back then were a little too enthusiastic sometimes.]]



** Creator/MichaelPalin became a Knight for real in 2018.

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** Creator/MichaelPalin Sir Galahad became a Knight for real in 2018.2018, when Creator/MichaelPalin was created a Knight Commander of the Order of St. Michael and St. George.
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* {{Woolseyism}}: The Italian dub of the movie is a big one. As the original movie's humour was considered "too weird" for Italian audiences, almost every dialogue was rewritten with new jokes, making half of the movie's humour being either sex jokes or political satire about taxes (for example, half of the Black Knight's dialogue was replaced with him making homophobic remarks towards Arthur, Tim the wizard says he's training to become a fiscalist and the Knights who say Ni became the Knights who say [[PrecisionFStrike Fuck You]]). Because of this, the Italian dub of the movie is deeply hated by fans. To add salt to the wound, in the early 2000 all the ''Monty Python'' movies were redubbed with more faithful dialogues... except for ''The Holy Grail'', the only one that seriously needed a redub.
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** The fight between King Arthur and the Black Knight becomes even funnier after the release of ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', due to [[spoiler: Anakin]] being wounded in nearly the exact same way, and being covered in black armor afterwards.



** Arthur referring to the forest knights as the "Knights Who Until Recently Said Ni" will probably make a lot of people think of (The Artist Formerly Known As) Music/{{Prince}}.
** ''Film/{{Excalibur}}'' features a Merlin who seems remarkably similar to Tim the Enchanter.
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* EarWorm:
** The drawbar organ music during the "intermission" and at the end.
** "Pie Iesu Domine, dona eis requiem" has two catchy tunes with the same words.
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** Possibly double-subverted: Another translation of the phrase would be "Jesus Christ, make it stop." Possibly because they keep slapping themselves with the tablets.
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** ''Film/{{Excalibur}}'' features a Merlin who seems remarkably similar to Tim the Enchanter.
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** Arthur referring to the forest knights as the "Knights Who Until Recently Said Ni" will probably make a lot of people think of (The Artist Formerly Known As) Music/{{Prince}}.
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** The "Knights of the Round Table" song contains the line "We eat ham and jam and spam a lot". The digital age has introduced a pretty amusing AmbiguousSyntax.
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** Terry Jones, an actual historian, often threw in stuff that seems like it'd be a joke. For instance, Dennis the Peasant's description of their system of government is pretty accurate to how some actual medieval communities functioned (though the "anarcho-syndicalist commune" is indeed anachronistic), and the film is one of the few Arthurian adaptations to correctly have Arthur's men wearing mail armor rather than the more recent plate armor.

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** Terry Jones, Creator/TerryJones, an actual historian, often threw in stuff that seems like it'd be a joke. For instance, Dennis the Peasant's description of their system of government is pretty accurate to how some actual medieval communities functioned (though the "anarcho-syndicalist commune" is indeed anachronistic), and the film is one of the few Arthurian adaptations to correctly have Arthur's men wearing mail armor rather than the more recent plate armor.
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* HypeBacklash: A huge dose of DiscreditedMeme has resulted in quite a bit of the humor to lose a lot of its impact.
* JustHereForGodzilla: It is not uncommon for viewers (both new ''and'' old) to fast-forward through much of the film just to see its most iconic skits.


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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: While most fans still think the [[AntiClimax purposely anticlimactic]] ending is hilarious, many of the same fans also wish the film had more of a proper ending.
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* DiscreditedMeme: The constant use of quotations from it has caused it to become popular to mock people for quoting it so much. They even provide the page image.

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* DiscreditedMeme: The constant use of quotations from it has caused it to become popular to mock people for quoting it so much. They even provide the page image.
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* DiscreditedMeme: The constant use of quotations from it has caused it to become popular to mock people for quoting it so much.

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* DiscreditedMeme: The constant use of quotations from it has caused it to become popular to mock people for quoting it so much. They even provide the page image.
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** The opening credits' moose dialogue at the bottom.

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** The opening credits' moose dialogue at the bottom. And the credits themselves being repeatedly interrupted because the people responsible keep getting sacked.
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** Creator/MichaelPalin became a Knight for real in 2018.
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** Terry Gilliam, an actual historian, often threw in stuff that seems like it'd be a joke. For instance, Dennis the Peasant's description of their system of government is pretty accurate to how some actual medieval communities functioned (though the "anarcho-syndicalist commune" is indeed anachronistic), and the film is one of the few Arthurian adaptations to correctly have Arthur's men wearing mail armor rather than the more recent plate armor.

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** Terry Gilliam, Jones, an actual historian, often threw in stuff that seems like it'd be a joke. For instance, Dennis the Peasant's description of their system of government is pretty accurate to how some actual medieval communities functioned (though the "anarcho-syndicalist commune" is indeed anachronistic), and the film is one of the few Arthurian adaptations to correctly have Arthur's men wearing mail armor rather than the more recent plate armor.
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* ValuesDissonance: the fact that the temptresses of Castle Anthrax are described as being "between 16 and 19 and a half" can be a bit disconcerting to viewers from places where the age of consent is above 16, as it is in the UK - or places where people ''believe'' the age of consent is above 16, thanks to SoCalization. Also, while Creator/CarolCleveland as Zoot & Dingo is clearly a case of DawsonCasting in action, the two girls who describe themselves as doctors appear to be played by actual teenagers - or at least, [[OlderThanTheyLook women who could pass as teenagers]] - making watching them come on to the thirty-something Michael Palin... uncomfortable.
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** As he's being "saved" from the beautiful women of Castle Anthrax, Galahad mutters that he thinks Lancelot is Gay, which Lancelot quickly denies. In [[Theater/{{Spamalot}} the musical adaptation]], he has an entire musical number dedicated to his realization that he is.

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** As he's being "saved" from the beautiful women of Castle Anthrax, Galahad mutters that he thinks Lancelot is Gay, which Lancelot quickly denies. In [[Theater/{{Spamalot}} [[Theatre/{{Spamalot}} the musical adaptation]], he has an entire musical number dedicated to his realization that he is.
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** The Black Knight and Lancelot are played by the same person (Creator/JohnCleese). And then, in ''LightNovel/FateZero''... [[spoiler:Lancelot IS Black Knight/Berserker.]]



** If the Black Knight scene wasn't funny enough, John Cleese would later land the role of [[Film/HarryPotterAndThePhilosophersStone Nearly Headless Nick]].
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* FriendlyFandoms: A lot of people who are in the Franchise/{{Nasuverse}} fandom watch this film. Jokes involving Saber and this film are quite common.
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** Then there's one of the earliest YouTube [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luVjkTEIoJc memes]].

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** Then there's one of the earliest YouTube Website/YouTube [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luVjkTEIoJc memes]].
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** Terry Gilliam, an actual historian, often threw in stuff that seems like it'd be a joke. For instance, Dennis the Peasant's description of their system of government is pretty accurate to how some actual medieval communities functioned (though the "anarcho-syndicalist commune" is indeed anachronistic), and the film is one of the few Arthurian adaptations to correctly have Arthur's men wearing mail armor rather than the more recent plate armor.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Good luck spotting him, but one of the many extras who make up Arthur's army at the conclusion of the film is a young Creator/IainBanks.
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** The 2-second shot of the prisoner in the dungeon (which [[UpToEleven occurs right in the middle]] of the aforementioned Camelot song!)
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** It has been [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut#Origin.2C_domestication.2C_and_dispersal suggested with complete seriousness]] that coconuts really did migrate naturally. The claim is heavily disputed, but just being ''plausible'' is hilarious even if it's not true.

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** It has been [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut#Origin.2C_domestication.2C_and_dispersal suggested with complete seriousness]] that coconuts really did migrate naturally. The claim is heavily disputed, the coconuts obviously never ended up in ''England'', but just being ''plausible'' is hilarious even if it's not true.

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