History YMMV / AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth

Take general series tropes to YMMV/AceAttorney, and take tropes specific to [[YMMV/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney the Phoenix arc]] and ''[[YMMV/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney Apollo Justice]]'' to those pages, please.

** in ''2'', [[spoiler: People cutting off Yumihiko mid-sentence, clearing their throats to make him stop talking, having his testimonies called stupid by ''Gumshoe and Larry'', and Franziska whipping Yumihiko for being stupid gets much less humorous after the end of case 4 where his own father berates him in front of everyone else that everything he brags on about was actually thanks to Bansai's influence and nepotism, and that he's too stupid to be his son for not even realizing it and a sham to his dad. Even after that, just a mere few minutes later he was kidnapped and woke up in ''his own garage'', leading him to think that his dad's men kidnaps him on purpose and really does hate him.]]

** [[spoiler:His [[TheDragon dragon]], Calisto Yew, is just as bad.]]
** And in Investigations 2 [[spoiler: Bansai Ichiyanagi.]]

* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Investigations 2 was rated 12+, even with the NightmareFuel going around and the increasingly disturbing murder methods.

* HellIsThatNoise: [[spoiler:Quercus Alba]]'s villainous objections. [[spoiler:Von Karma]]'s in the sequel.

* EnsembleDarkHorse: For someone who appears [[spoiler:alive]] in only one case in Investigations 2, Manosuke Naitou is popular with the fans. [[spoiler: Mostly because of his relationship with the BigBad]].

* DisappointingLastlevel: Compared to the other games in series, the final case is unusually long. It has far more chapters than any other case in the series. Just when you think it's finally over, it's not. Some fans have even criticized the finale for dragging out too long, and making the ending more tedious than satisfying, compared to the other games which arguably all had huge final boss takedowns.

FoeYay: Shi-Long Lang and Edgeworth in ''Investigations''.

* FoeYay: Shi-Long Lang and Edgeworth in ''Investigations''.

** Personally, I think the slow 'OB-JECT-TION!' was really suitable for his character and sounded great. I also think Calisto Yew's objection also fit her. Can you honestly state that she was the kind of person to put much oomph into an objection?

** [[spoiler: It features an utterly terrifying-looking ex-assassin (who is the owner of said dog), several of the inmates ''threaten to kill you'' when questioned, said inmates are later dragged off screaming to the "Disiplinary Room" for refusing to co-operate, the very first contradiction you have to point out is that the victim couldn't have screamed because he was stabbed in the throat and the real culprit committed the murder out of panic due to [[ProperlyParanoid having been driven insane from paranoia]]]] [[ItGotWorse And it gets worse]] [warning, HEAVY SPOILERS]: [[spoiler: The cheerful, upbeat ending becomes pure FridgeHorror after playing Case 5. That nice, innocent guy you get off the hook? '''He's the freaking BigBad!!''']] Tateyuki even lampshades it by saying something to the effect of "We're in a prison, what did you expect?"

* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Making [[EnsembleDarkhorse Miles]] [[MrFanservice Edgeworth]] the star of ''Investigations'' rather than Ema Skye as originally planned was probably the best idea the developers ever had.
** And recently the fandom's been going nuts over the appearance of a certain [[spoiler: Mr. Shelly de Killer]] in the AAI-2 trailer.
** Case 3 of ''[=AAI2=]'': [[spoiler:you play as Gregory Edgeworth. Your rival for the case? ''Manfred von Karma''. You even get to cross-examine him.]]

** In the intro to case three, Edgeworth gets [[spoiler:attacked by a person with a sword in a Proto Badger suit with EMPTY EYES]]. And in case 5, [[spoiler:there's Quercus Alba's breakdown where ''parts of his face fly off!'']]

** Hell, that entire case is just filled with it, to name a few examples... [[spoiler: It features an utterly terrifying-looking ex-assassin (who is the owner of said dog), several of the inmates ''threaten to kill you'' when questioned, said inmates are later dragged off screaming to the "Disiplinary Room" for refusing to co-operate, the very first contradiction you have to point out is that the victim couldn't have screamed because he was stabbed in the throat and the real culprit committed the murder out of panic due to [[ProperlyParanoid having been driven insane from paranoia]]]] [[ItGotWorse And it gets worse]] [warning, HEAVY SPOILERS]: [[spoiler: The cheerful, upbeat ending becomes pure FridgeHorror after playing Case 5. That nice, innocent guy you get off the hook? '''He's the freaking BigBad!!''']] Tateyuki even lampshades it by saying something to the effect of "We're in a prison, what did you expect?"

* HighOctaneNightmareFuel
** In the intro to case three, Edgeworth gets [[spoiler:attacked by a person with a sword in a Proto Badger suit with EMPTY EYES]]. And in case 5, [[spoiler:there's Quercus Alba's breakdown where ''parts of his face fly off!'']]
** Also in Case 5, [[spoiler:Shih-na laughing a second time]].
** The second case of the second game's introduction, which features [[spoiler: Manosuke lying dead in a dank, eerily-lit prison, bleeding heavily (by the series' standards) from a neck wound inflicted by a hound with a bloodied snout...]]
** Hell, that entire case is just filled with it, to name a few examples... [[spoiler: It features an utterly terrifying-looking ex-assassin (who is the owner of said dog), several of the inmates ''threaten to kill you'' when questioned, said inmates are later dragged off screaming to the "Disiplinary Room" for refusing to co-operate, the very first contradiction you have to point out is that the victim couldn't have screamed because he was stabbed in the throat and the real culprit committed the murder out of panic due to [[ProperlyParanoid having been driven insane from paranoia]]]] [[ItGotWorse And it gets worse]] [warning, HEAVY SPOILERS]: [[spoiler: The cheerful, upbeat ending becomes pure FridgeHorror after playing Case 5. That nice, innocent guy you get off the hook? '''He's the freaking BigBad!!''']] Tateyuki even lampshades it by saying something to the effect of "We're in a prison, what did you expect?"

* MemeticMutation: [[spoiler:[[{{Pokemon}} Quercus Alba is evolving!]]]]

* XenSyndrome: Compared to the other games in series, the final case is unusually long. It has far more chapters than any other case in the series. Just when you think it's finally over, it's not. Some fans have even criticized the finale for dragging out too long, and making the ending more tedious than satisfying, compared to the other games which arguably all had huge final boss takedowns.

* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Making [[EnsembleDarkhorse Miles]] [[EstrogenBrigadeBait Edgeworth]] the star of ''Investigations'' rather than Ema Skye as originally planned was probably the best idea the developers ever had.

Take general series tropes to YMMV/AceAttorney, and take tropes specific to [[YMMV/{{ptitlesv1ek77e}} the Phoenix arc]] and ''[[YMMV/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney Apollo Justice]]'' to those pages, please.

Take general series tropes to YMMV/AceAttorney, and take tropes specific to [[YMMV/{{ptitlesv1ek77e}} the Phoenix arc]] and ''[[YMMV/{{ptitle11hpolf2}} Apollo Justice]]'' to those pages, please.

* XenSyndrome: Compared to the other games in series, the final case is unusually long. It has far more chapters than any other case in the series. Just when you think it's finally over, it's not. Some fans have even criticized the finale for dragging out too long, and making the ending more tedious than satisfying, compared to the other games which arguably all had huge final boss takedowns.

* MarySue: Some people have alleged that Kay is one.

* FakeDifficulty: In case 3, if you try to suggest that you should use the key hanging on the wall to open one of the lockers (which could potentially be used as a foothold if opened), you get a penalty. Not a statement that it doesn't work, just a standard "oops" dialogue and a penalty. Later in the case, people like Oldbag state that the [[spoiler: killer shot the victim in the stomach (from a few steps away by implication)]] while they were standing facing each other. Trying to present the [[spoiler: preliminary autopsy results]] that show that [[spoiler: the victim was shot from below]] doesn't work. However, the real [[ItJustBugsMe Headscratchers]]/GuideDangIt start with the conversation with Lang in End Part 1.
** Lang says during an argument that "isn't it possible that they both knew that fact" in relation to [[spoiler: Lauren and Colin being related]]. While it wouldn't disprove Lang's statement, it seems slightly unfair that presenting the [[spoiler: victim's]] costume to show that it's also possible that they didn't know (since they may not have really seen each other) results in a standard penalty. During this same argument, Lang says that "the two of them made good use of their meetings to plan this little kidnapping." It's true that there are strong reasons to believe that they met, but it still seems unreasonable that presenting the dossier that says "We thought he might head for [[spoiler: where his wife and sole daughter are, but despite our surveillance, he has yet to show up]]" results in a standard penalty. Trying to use the fact that [[spoiler: someone stole a gun from the bad badger costume]] even though [[spoiler: the victim had already stolen a gun]] as evidence that they didn't do very much [[spoiler: good planning]] results in a standard penalty. The correct answer is to provide evidence supporting the idea that [[spoiler: there were three kidnappers]] when Lang states that [[spoiler: a certain pair of people were involved in planning something together]]. That does not have any obvious connection to Lang's main argument in that particular cross-examination (which is that the suspect [[spoiler: knew the victim's identity]]) and does not directly contradict the statement that you are supposed to present it at. Figuring out that you're supposed to present that evidence there requires either obsessing over the fact that he used the word two (even though that word wasn't all that important to the point he was making at that moment), or doing some very impressive reasoning to figure out that [[spoiler: if there were three kidnappers, it's possible that two of them never met each other during planning if the third one organized it]].
** Later, when talking to [[spoiler: Lauren]] during this conversation, the witness says "[[spoiler: he pointed a gun at me to kill me dead!]]" Presenting the gun that [[spoiler: fires blanks]] as evidence that his intent might have just been to scare her results in a standard penalty. Instead, you're supposed to present the [[spoiler: gunpowder-burned costume]] to show that the shooting couldn't have happened while the victim [[spoiler: was up on a stage]] while the shooter [[spoiler: shot from below]]. However, the [[spoiler: stage]] wasn't very tall. ME:AAI case 3 never tells you what the maximum range that can result in a [[spoiler: gunpowder burn]] is.