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7th Jan '17 7:11:42 PM Drope
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* MemeticMolestor: Ray Shields refers himself as "Uncle Ray" and has a penchant for offering hugs and candy to everyone.

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* MemeticMolestor: MemeticMolester: Ray Shields refers himself as "Uncle Ray" and has a penchant for offering hugs and candy to everyone.
12th Dec '16 8:21:10 PM rjd1922
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* CompleteMonster: While initially seeming like a [[EvilOldFolks frail and kind individual]], BigBad [[spoiler: [[AssInAmbassador Quercus Alba]]]] turns out to be the hardened, cold-hearted boss of a large and powerful smuggling ring. Thanks to him putting many highly-convincing counterfeit bills into circulation, the country of Zheng Fa has been thrown into economic chaos due to his machinations. He also ordered the deaths of Cece Yew, Deid Mann, and Byrne Faraday due to their efforts in trying to expose his role in the smuggling ring, and personally murdered Mask*[=DeMasque=] II and his subordinate Manny Coachen: [=DeMasque=] II for stealing the fake statue that contained the plates used for creating counterfeit bills, and Coachen due to him seeking to steal power of the smuggling ring from under [[spoiler: Alba's]] nose. Ruthless and rotten to the core, [[spoiler: Alba]] will kill anyone without so much as a second thought for the sake of keeping his criminal empire running.

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* CompleteMonster: While initially seeming like a [[EvilOldFolks frail and kind individual]], BigBad [[spoiler: [[AssInAmbassador Quercus Alba]]]] turns out to be the hardened, cold-hearted boss of a large and powerful smuggling ring. Thanks to him putting many highly-convincing counterfeit bills into circulation, the country of Zheng Fa has been thrown into economic chaos due to his machinations. He also ordered the deaths of Cece Yew, Deid Mann, and Byrne Faraday due to their efforts in trying to expose his role in the smuggling ring, and personally murdered Mask*[=DeMasque=] II Ka-Shi Nou and his subordinate Manny Coachen: [=DeMasque=] II Nou for stealing the fake statue that contained the plates used for creating counterfeit bills, and Coachen due to him seeking to steal power of the smuggling ring from under [[spoiler: Alba's]] nose. Ruthless and rotten to the core, [[spoiler: Alba]] will kill anyone without so much as a second thought for the sake of keeping his criminal empire running.
29th Nov '16 7:40:47 PM dotchan
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* MemeticMolestor: Ray Shields refers himself as "Uncle Ray" and has a penchant for offering hugs and candy to everyone.
21st Nov '16 10:45:57 AM mario0987
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: True, Patricia Roland ultimately brought the [[spoiler:combined]] threat of Sirhan Dogen [[spoiler:and Simon Keyes]] upon herself after her past misdeeds, but her motive (she killed Horace Knightley to eliminate a potential threat to her and her family's safety as well as to frame Dogen so he would have to be transferred to a maximum-security prison and no longer have the ability to be a threat) is difficult to fault, given its self-defensive and MamaBear-ish nature.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Justine is supposed to come off as merciless to lawbreakers and stuck [[spoiler: in a very compromising situation involving Blaise coercing her and her nephew being kidnapped.]] But this is before she spent three cases hindering Edgeworth's investigation, [[spoiler: using forged evidence to convict an innocent girl]], and generally just being a giant bitch.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: True, Patricia Roland ultimately brought the [[spoiler:combined]] threat of Sirhan Dogen [[spoiler:and Simon Keyes]] upon herself after her past misdeeds, but her motive (she killed Horace Knightley to eliminate a potential threat to her and her family's safety as well as to frame Dogen so he would have to be transferred to a maximum-security prison and no longer have the ability to be a threat) is difficult to fault, given its self-defensive and MamaBear-ish nature.
nature. She does loose some sympathy [[spoiler: when it turns out she helped in the murders of President Huang and Jack Cameron and making it look like a kidnapping.]]
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Justine is supposed to come off as merciless to lawbreakers and stuck [[spoiler: in a very compromising situation involving Blaise coercing her and her nephew / adoptive son being kidnapped.]] But this is However, before the reveal that [[spoiler: she was working to take down Blaise]] she spent three two cases hindering Edgeworth's investigation, [[spoiler: using used forged evidence to convict an innocent girl]], girl for a crime she knew Blaise was responsible for]], and was generally just being a giant bitch.



** Justine Courtney. Many people love her for her unique design and [[spoiler: her takedown of Blaise in the 4th case, as well as doting behavior for her son and, to a lesser extent, trying to help Sebastian.]] Many others hate her because she enables Sebastian's poor decision making, and is generally a huge bitch towards Edgeworth. Even her fans hate her behaviour at the beginning of the 4th case, when she [[spoiler: dismisses herself as a suspect, then uses evidence she is fully aware is fabricated to pin Jill's murder on Kay.]]

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** Justine Courtney. Many people love her for her unique design and [[spoiler: her takedown of Blaise in the 4th case, as well as doting behavior for her son and, to a lesser extent, trying to help Sebastian.]] Many others hate her because she enables Sebastian's poor decision making, obstructs Edgeworth at every turn and is generally a huge bitch towards Edgeworth. Even her fans hate her behaviour at the beginning of the 4th case, when she [[spoiler: dismisses herself as a suspect, then uses evidence she is fully aware is fabricated to pin Jill's murder on Kay.]]
16th Nov '16 5:15:33 AM HebiKaze10
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** If not FoeRomanceSubtext, quite a lot of Lang's behaviour and remarks towards Edgeworth can come across as being pretty [[TsunDere tsundere]].
---> '''Lang: (in response to accidentally giving up information for Kay's Little Thief''' Tch! Fine! See if I care!
---> (During '''Turnabout Ablaze''' when Edgeworth thanks Lang for helping earlier.)
---> '''Edgeworth: (bows)''' Agent Lang, I would just like to thank you for your assistance earlier.
---> '''Lang:''' Make no mistake, it's not like I was trying to help you with what I'm doing.
*** Hell, by the finale of the fifth case, it can actually be interpreted as Lang ''finally'' no longer being so tsun to Edgeworth considering how he tells him he can't wait to see him in action in the courtroom.
11th Oct '16 4:16:46 AM Ocsttiac
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* ''[[YMMV/DaiGyakutenSaibanNaruhodouRyuunosukeNoBouken Dai Gyakuten Saiban]]''
9th Oct '16 3:48:33 AM greatone10
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** In this case, it may be better to consider the source of this information. [[spoiler:It was Roland who claimed that Dogen was threatening her family. Dogen does not mention her family at all when he comes clean, and instead the impetus for blackmail stems in Roland's involvement in SS-5 and their attempt to silence Dogen at the scene of the crime.]]
2nd Oct '16 12:06:32 AM Wuz
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Colias Palaeno is rather well liked due to being genuinely helpful and cooperative to Edgeworth's investigation, as well just being a NiceGuy.



** Colias Palaeno is also rather well liked due to being genuinely helpful and cooperative to Edgeworth's investigation, as well just being a NiceGuy.
11th Sep '16 10:39:35 PM Antwan
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* ''YMMV/{{Apollo Wright|AceAttorney}}''

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* ''YMMV/{{Apollo Wright|AceAttorney}}''Justice|AceAttorney}}''
11th Sep '16 10:39:15 PM Antwan
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Take general series tropes to YMMV/AceAttorney, and take tropes specific to [[YMMV/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney the Phoenix arc]], ''[[YMMV/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney Apollo Justice]]'', or ''[[YMMV/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'' to those pages, please.

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Take general series tropes to YMMV/AceAttorney, and take tropes specific to [[YMMV/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney This page is for subjective moments in both games in the Phoenix arc]], ''[[YMMV/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney Apollo Justice]]'', or ''Ace Attorney Investigations'' franchise.

For other such moments in the series, see the appropriate subpages:

* ''[[YMMV/AceAttorney Ace Attorney (series)]]''
* ''[[YMMV/AceAttorneyAnime Ace Attorney (anime)]]''
* ''YMMV/{{Phoenix Wright|AceAttorney}}''
* ''YMMV/{{Apollo Wright|AceAttorney}}''
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''[[YMMV/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'' to those pages, please.Destinies]]''
* ''[[YMMV/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]''



* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Was Sirhan Dogen serious about [[spoiler:threatening to have Patricia Roland's family killed]]? Or was he just being pragmatic and lying about it so he could blackmail [[spoiler:her]], given his established distaste for needless killing?
* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Kay, particularly among those who like the first three games best. Even her detractors, however, have sympathy for her in the 4th case of the second game.
** Justine Courtney. Many people love her for her unique design and [[spoiler: her takedown of Blaise in the 4th case, as well as doting behavior for her son and, to a lesser extent, trying to help Sebastian.]] Many others hate her because she enables Sebastian's poor decision making, and is generally a huge bitch towards Edgeworth. Even her fans hate her behaviour at the beginning of the 4th case, when she [[spoiler: dismisses herself as a suspect, then uses evidence she is fully aware is fabricated to pin Jill's murder on Kay.]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Was Sirhan Dogen serious about [[spoiler:threatening to have Patricia Roland's family killed]]? Or was he just being pragmatic and lying about it so he could blackmail [[spoiler:her]], given his established distaste for needless killing?
* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Kay, particularly among those who like the first three games best. Even her detractors, however, have sympathy for her in the 4th case of the second game.
** Justine Courtney. Many people love her for her unique design and [[spoiler: her takedown of Blaise in the 4th case, as well as doting behavior for her son and, to a lesser extent, trying to help Sebastian.]] Many others hate her because she enables Sebastian's poor decision making, and is generally a huge bitch towards Edgeworth. Even her fans hate her behaviour at the beginning of the 4th case, when she [[spoiler: dismisses herself as a suspect, then uses evidence she is fully aware is fabricated to pin Jill's murder on Kay.]]
!!First game



* DisappointingLastLevel: Most fans criticize "Turnabout Ablaze" for dragging out the final confrontation [[MarathonBoss way too long]]. That entire interrogation alone takes at least about two hours. And just when you think it's finally over, it's not. This eventually makes the ending more tedious than satisfying, compared to the other games which had much better climaxes. And even without taking in account the final boss, some fans argue this finale simply doesn't get you invested like the others do.
** Subverted with the 2nd game's final case. It is paced much better than Turnabout Ablaze, only having one real road bump near the beginning only because it was tying up the loose ends from case 4 rather then dealing with the current murder at hand.
* DracoInLeatherPants: [[spoiler:Most fans seem to only acknowledge Knightley's Pet The Dog moments with the Big Bad while glossing over his more unlikeable qualities.]]



* EnsembleDarkhorse: For someone who appears [[spoiler:alive]] in only one case in ''Investigations 2'', Horace Knightley is popular with the fans. [[spoiler: Mostly because of his relationship with the Big Bad]]. Funnily enough, his Japanese name contains the kanji for 'horse'.
** Colias Palaeno is also rather well liked due to being genuinely helpful and cooperative to Edgeworth's investigation, as well just being a NiceGuy.
* EscapistCharacter: Kay Faraday is what many Edgeworth {{fan girl}}s dream of being. She's a cute 'modern-day Robin Hood' and gets to play assistant to Edgey, who feels a deep connection to her because of [[spoiler:the parallels between her father's death and his]]. She's also Gumshoe's very best friend.
* EvenBetterSequel: ''Gyakuten Kenji 2'' aimed to be bigger and more dramatic than the original, evident by the "final case" feel that the first case of the game was shooting for (and achieved).



-->''Ha ha! You're sending the biggest chill down my spine, Edgeworth..!''
* FunnyAneurysmMoment:
** Any time in the fourth case where Edgeworth [[spoiler:defends Manfred von Karma's actions]].
** And in the sequel, Raymond makes several jokes about [[spoiler: von Karma]] upon his introduction. Even Gumshoe considers them this. [[spoiler: Turns out he was invoking this trope deliberately, as he still believes Edgeworth and von Karma are Not So Different.]]
** To a lesser extent, that ice cream salesman. He waits just long enough to convince you his is just a cameo appearance...
* HarsherInHindsight:
** Many people considered the reveal in the ''Apollo Justice'' game that Ema [[spoiler:failed her exam and thus didn't achieve her dream]] quite harsh. With that knowledge, play case 3, where she appears as the same highly ambitious GenkiGirl she was in the first game.
** in ''2'', [[spoiler: People cutting off Sebastian mid-sentence, clearing their throats to make him stop talking, having his testimonies called stupid by ''Gumshoe and Larry'', and Franziska whipping Sebastian for being stupid gets much less humorous after the end of case 4 where his own father berates him in front of everyone else that everything he brags on about was actually thanks to Blaise's influence and nepotism, and that he's too stupid to be his son for not even realizing it and a shame to his dad. Even after that, just a mere few minutes later he was kidnapped and woke up in ''his own garage'', leading him to think that his dad's men kidnapped him on purpose and really does hate him.]]
---> [[spoiler: '''Sebastian:''' You don't understand, Mr. Edgeworth! I lost everything I had this morning! *cue 5 Logic Chess pieces*]]

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-->''Ha -->''"Ha ha! You're sending the biggest chill down my spine, Edgeworth..!''
* FunnyAneurysmMoment:
** Any time in the fourth case where Edgeworth [[spoiler:defends Manfred von Karma's actions]].
** And in the sequel, Raymond makes several jokes about [[spoiler: von Karma]] upon his introduction. Even Gumshoe considers them this. [[spoiler: Turns out he was invoking this trope deliberately, as he still believes Edgeworth and von Karma are Not So Different.]]
** To a lesser extent, that ice cream salesman. He waits just long enough to convince you his is just a cameo appearance...
* HarsherInHindsight:
** Many people considered the reveal in the ''Apollo Justice'' game that Ema [[spoiler:failed her exam and thus didn't achieve her dream]] quite harsh. With that knowledge, play case 3, where she appears as the same highly ambitious GenkiGirl she was in the first game.
** in ''2'', [[spoiler: People cutting off Sebastian mid-sentence, clearing their throats to make him stop talking, having his testimonies called stupid by ''Gumshoe and Larry'', and Franziska whipping Sebastian for being stupid gets much less humorous after the end of case 4 where his own father berates him in front of everyone else that everything he brags on about was actually thanks to Blaise's influence and nepotism, and that he's too stupid to be his son for not even realizing it and a shame to his dad. Even after that, just a mere few minutes later he was kidnapped and woke up in ''his own garage'', leading him to think that his dad's men kidnapped him on purpose and really does hate him.]]
---> [[spoiler: '''Sebastian:''' You don't understand, Mr. Edgeworth! I lost everything I had this morning! *cue 5 Logic Chess pieces*]]
!"''



* InternetBackdraft: The sequel not being released in the West due to the first ''Ace Attorney Investigations'' selling poorly. Fans are still clamoring for it to come stateside. At least a translation came over.

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!!Second game
* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Was Sirhan Dogen serious about [[spoiler:threatening to have Patricia Roland's family killed]]? Or was he just being pragmatic and lying about it so he could blackmail [[spoiler:her]], given his established distaste for needless killing?
* DracoInLeatherPants: [[spoiler:Most fans seem to only acknowledge Knightley's Pet The Dog moments with the Big Bad while glossing over his more unlikable qualities.]]
* EnsembleDarkhorse: For someone who appears [[spoiler:alive]] in only one case in ''Investigations 2'', Horace Knightley is popular with the fans. [[spoiler: Mostly because of his relationship with the Big Bad]]. Funnily enough, his Japanese name contains the kanji for 'horse'.
** Colias Palaeno is also rather well liked due to being genuinely helpful and cooperative to Edgeworth's investigation, as well just being a NiceGuy.
* EvenBetterSequel: ''Gyakuten Kenji 2'' aimed to be bigger and more dramatic than the original, evident by the "final case" feel that the first case of the game was shooting for (and achieved).
* InternetBackdraft: The sequel not being released in the West due to the first ''Ace Attorney Investigations'' selling poorly. Fans are still clamoring for it to come stateside. At least a translation came over.



* MagnificentBastard: The BigBad of the second game certainly qualifies. He manipulates everyone and everything including ''Edgeworth'' to achieve his goal of revenge on targets that include [[spoiler: former chief prosecutor and a ''president''(well, his body double but still)]] and succeeds at taking down all of them, while covering tracks so well that in the end [[spoiler: he's just one piece of evidence away from becoming KarmaHoudini]]. All while maintaining [[TheDogWasTheMastermind innocent facade the whole time]].
* MemeticBadass: Detective Badd. He might as well be the Chuck Norris of Ace Attorney.
* MemeticMutation:
** [[spoiler:[[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Quercus Alba is evolving!]]]]
** Edgeworth transports his opponents to the [[AmazingTechnicolorBattlefield chess dimension]].
* MostAnnoyingSound: [[spoiler:Quercus Alba]] and Calisto Yew's Objections are both particularly annoying, as [[spoiler:Alba's]] is really low and demonic whilst Calisto's sounds just whiny and weak. Not to mention the sheer lack of any personality or interest in the latter's voice. Portsman's coat swoosh also falls into this for some. Blaise Debeste's frequent weeping is constantly leading to him emptying his goggles with a splash, which some hate as well.

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* MagnificentBastard: The BigBad of the second game certainly qualifies. He manipulates everyone and everything including ''Edgeworth'' to achieve his goal of revenge on targets that include [[spoiler: former chief prosecutor and a ''president''(well, his body double but still)]] and succeeds at taking down all of them, while covering tracks so well that in the end [[spoiler: he's just one piece of evidence away from becoming a KarmaHoudini]]. All while maintaining [[TheDogWasTheMastermind innocent facade the whole time]].
* MemeticBadass: Detective Badd. He might as well be the Chuck Norris of Ace Attorney.
* MemeticMutation:
** [[spoiler:[[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Quercus Alba is evolving!]]]]
** Edgeworth transports his opponents to the [[AmazingTechnicolorBattlefield chess dimension]].
* MostAnnoyingSound: [[spoiler:Quercus Alba]] and Calisto Yew's Objections are both particularly annoying, as [[spoiler:Alba's]] is really low and demonic whilst Calisto's sounds just whiny and weak. Not to mention the sheer lack of any personality or interest in the latter's voice. Portsman's coat swoosh also falls into this for some. Blaise Debeste's frequent weeping is constantly leading to him emptying his goggles with a splash, which some hate as well.
time]].



* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Franziska, particularly in the second game. The first game has her very concerned for Larry's son (although [[ItMakesSenseInContext it turns out to be a doll]]), and extremely sympathetic and even downright kind to Kay after [[spoiler: she loses her father]]. In the second game, she's very sympathetic to [[spoiler: Sebastian once he realizes how awful his father is]]. When Edgeworth [[spoiler: gives up his badge]] and being harassed by Justine and Sebastian, she whips the latter into submission and lets Edgeworth speak. Her conversations with Edgeworth, Kay, Gumshoe, and later, Sebastian, also round out her rough edges and give her plenty of depth.
-->'''Franziska:''' However...once must be able to accept their father's mistakes, no matter how much they look up to him.



* ThatOneBoss:
** Dammit, [[spoiler:[[BigBad Quercus]]]], GIVE UP ALREADY! This guy has to be the most annoying [[{{Pun}} boss-examination]] ever.
** In [=AAI2=], it's the Logic Chess battle against [[spoiler:Sebastian]]. It's the longest and most annoying Logic Chess battle in the game.
** [[spoiler: Blaise's]] in the previous chapter is almost as bad, it's long and requires several actions you never needed to do before (such as going back on previous lines of questioning only to find options that weren't there before) and has to be ended by [[spoiler: selecting the one option that penalised you ''every'' other time you tried it.]] Fittingly both battles are the only two in the game to use the "Allegro" version of the Logic Chess theme, and [[spoiler: are family members.]]
** To a lesser extent, [[spoiler:Lotta Hart's]] during the fourth case. The battle itself isn't ''that'' hard, but the clock runs down at a far faster rate than in any other Logic Chess battle in the game, meaning that any mistake ends up being much more damaging.
* UnderusedGameMechanic: [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney Fingerprinting]] [[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney is back]]! And it's used exactly once.


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!!Both games
* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Kay, particularly among those who like the first three games best. Even her detractors, however, have sympathy for her in the 4th case of the second game.
** Justine Courtney. Many people love her for her unique design and [[spoiler: her takedown of Blaise in the 4th case, as well as doting behavior for her son and, to a lesser extent, trying to help Sebastian.]] Many others hate her because she enables Sebastian's poor decision making, and is generally a huge bitch towards Edgeworth. Even her fans hate her behaviour at the beginning of the 4th case, when she [[spoiler: dismisses herself as a suspect, then uses evidence she is fully aware is fabricated to pin Jill's murder on Kay.]]
* DisappointingLastLevel: Most fans criticize "Turnabout Ablaze" for dragging out the final confrontation [[MarathonBoss way too long]]. That entire interrogation alone takes at least about two hours. And just when you think it's finally over, it's not. This eventually makes the ending more tedious than satisfying, compared to the other games which had much better climaxes. And even without taking in account the final boss, some fans argue this finale simply doesn't get you invested like the others do.
** Subverted with the 2nd game's final case. It is paced much better than "Turnabout Ablaze", only having one real road bump near the beginning only because it was tying up the loose ends from case 4 rather then dealing with the current murder at hand.
* EscapistCharacter: Kay Faraday is what many Edgeworth {{fan girl}}s dream of being. She's a cute 'modern-day Robin Hood' and gets to play assistant to Edgey, who feels a deep connection to her because of [[spoiler:the parallels between her father's death and his]]. She's also Gumshoe's very best friend.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment:
** Any time in the fourth case of the first game where Edgeworth [[spoiler:defends Manfred von Karma's actions]].
** And in the sequel, Raymond makes several jokes about [[spoiler: von Karma]] upon his introduction. Even Gumshoe considers them this. [[spoiler: Turns out he was invoking this trope deliberately, as he still believes Edgeworth and von Karma are Not So Different.]]
** To a lesser extent, that ice cream salesman. He waits just long enough to convince you his is just a cameo appearance...
* HarsherInHindsight:
** Many people considered the reveal in the ''Apollo Justice'' game that Ema [[spoiler:failed her exam and thus didn't achieve her dream]] quite harsh. With that knowledge, play case 3, where she appears as the same highly ambitious GenkiGirl she was in the first game.
** In ''2'', [[spoiler: People cutting off Sebastian mid-sentence, clearing their throats to make him stop talking, having his testimonies called stupid by ''Gumshoe and Larry'', and Franziska whipping Sebastian for being stupid gets much less humorous after the end of case 4 where his own father berates him in front of everyone else that everything he brags on about was actually thanks to Blaise's influence and nepotism, and that he's too stupid to be his son for not even realizing it and a shame to his dad. Even after that, just a mere few minutes later he was kidnapped and woke up in ''his own garage'', leading him to think that his dad's men kidnapped him on purpose and really does hate him.]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Sebastian:''' You don't understand, Mr. Edgeworth! I lost everything I had this morning! *cue 5 Logic Chess pieces*]]
* MemeticBadass: Detective Badd. He might as well be the Chuck Norris of Ace Attorney.
* MemeticMutation:
** [[spoiler:[[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Quercus Alba is evolving!]]]]
** Edgeworth transports his opponents to the [[AmazingTechnicolorBattlefield chess dimension]].
* MostAnnoyingSound: [[spoiler:Quercus Alba]] and Calisto Yew's Objections are both particularly annoying, as [[spoiler:Alba's]] is really low and demonic whilst Calisto's sounds just whiny and weak. Not to mention the sheer lack of any personality or interest in the latter's voice. Portsman's coat swoosh also falls into this for some.
** In the sequel, Blaise Debeste's frequent weeping is constantly leading to him emptying his goggles with a splash, which some hate as well.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Franziska, particularly in the second game. The first game has her very concerned for Larry's son (although [[ItMakesSenseInContext it turns out to be a doll]]), and extremely sympathetic and even downright kind to Kay after [[spoiler: she loses her father]]. In the second game, she's very sympathetic to [[spoiler:Sebastian once he realizes how awful his father is]]. When Edgeworth [[spoiler: gives up his badge]] and being harassed by Justine and Sebastian, she whips the latter into submission and lets Edgeworth speak. Her conversations with Edgeworth, Kay, Gumshoe, and later, Sebastian, also round out her rough edges and give her plenty of depth.
-->'''Franziska:''' However...once must be able to accept their father's mistakes, no matter how much they look up to him.
* ThatOneBoss:
** Dammit, [[spoiler:Quercus]], GIVE UP ALREADY! This guy has to be the most annoying [[{{Pun}} boss-examination]] ever.
** In [=AAI2=], it's the Logic Chess battle against [[spoiler:Sebastian]]. It's the longest and most annoying Logic Chess battle in the game.
** [[spoiler: Blaise's]] in the previous chapter is almost as bad, it's long and requires several actions you never needed to do before (such as going back on previous lines of questioning only to find options that weren't there before) and has to be ended by [[spoiler: selecting the one option that penalised you ''every'' other time you tried it.]] Fittingly both battles are the only two in the game to use the "Allegro" version of the Logic Chess theme, and [[spoiler: are family members.]]
** To a lesser extent, [[spoiler:Lotta Hart's]] during the fourth case. The battle itself isn't ''that'' hard, but the clock runs down at a far faster rate than in any other Logic Chess battle in the game, meaning that any mistake ends up being much more damaging.
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