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*** As of February 27th, his appearance as a playable character has been jossed; instead he reprises his role as assist trophy.



** '''Lysandre'''
*** Much like Ghetsis and Giovanni mentioned above, the series could use more playable villains; his status as the main antagonist in the most recent Pokémon games and his standing with the fans also aid his potential as a character. He'd likely use Mienshao, Pyroar, and Honchkrow for his team, with [[spoiler:either his Mega Gyarados or summoning Xerneas/Yveltal]] as his Final Smash.



* [[FireEmblemRadientDawn The Black Knight]]

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* [[FireEmblemRadientDawn [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius The Black Knight]]


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** '''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24m2oeWteFw Dark Pit's Theme]]''' from ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising''.


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** '''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCjZTxGUzMI Rundas' Theme]]''' from ''VideoGame/MetroidPrime 3: Corruption''.
*** Either or.
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** '''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krXv4PMpiFc Comrades]]''' from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones''.
*** Remix.
*** Stage: Arena Ferox (3DS)
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[[WMG: The Boxing Ring stage is ''not'' the Punch-Out!! stage.]]

* The one we saw at the beginning is the new Final Destination. The Punch-out!! stage was shown to have walk-off ledges. The Initial Boxing Ring appears to have traditional Ring-Out gaps.
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[[WMG: [[Franchise/WonderMomo Wonder Momo]] ]]
With Namco-Bandai trying to revive the series, this would be the perfect way to drum up interest.
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* ''FZero''
** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIaudul3_VI Silence]]''' from the first ''FZero'' game on SNES.

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* ''FZero''
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** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIaudul3_VI Silence]]''' from the first ''FZero'' ''F-Zero'' game on SNES.



** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ccbCcdl_6s Drivin' Through on Max]]''' (Sector A/B) from ''FZero X''.

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** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ccbCcdl_6s Drivin' Through on Max]]''' (Sector A/B) from ''FZero ''F-Zero X''.



** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Go_hmHv7U The Long Distance of Murder]]''' (Red Canyon) from ''FZero X''.

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** '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Go_hmHv7U The Long Distance of Murder]]''' (Red Canyon) from ''FZero ''F-Zero X''.



** '''[[{{MarioKart}} Rainbow Road]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXqJEEAA-sw Theme]]''' from ''FZero X Expansion Kit''.

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** '''[[{{MarioKart}} Rainbow Road]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXqJEEAA-sw Theme]]''' from ''FZero ''F-Zero X Expansion Kit''.



*** Could possibly play on a ''MarioKart'' themed stage rather than an ''FZero'' one.

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*** Could possibly play on a ''MarioKart'' themed stage rather than an ''FZero'' ''F-Zero'' one.
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*** Both it and ''Space Firebird'' were developed by Nintendo R&D 1 and between the two games the '''Space Demon''' might have enough moves to work with. True, he might be a little on the large side but unlike Ridley, it doesn't have a Samus to be in proportion with so it could be scaled down like Olimar was scaled up. The demon could call on fighters, and fragmentation bombs for special attacks and use a space Firebird for recovery. (or failing playable character, a surprise boss)

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*** Both it and ''Space Firebird'' were developed by Nintendo R&D 1 and between the two games the '''Space Demon''' might have enough moves to work with. True, he might be a little on the large side but unlike Ridley, it doesn't have a Samus to be in proportion with so it could be scaled down like Olimar was scaled up. The demon could call on space fighters, spiders and fragmentation bombs for special attacks and use a even summon the space Firebird for recovery.Firebirds. (or failing playable character, a surprise boss)
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*** Both it and ''Space Firebird'' were developed by Nintendo R&D 1 and between the two games the '''Space Demon''' might have enough moves to work with. True, he might be a little on the large side but unlike Ridley, it doesn't have a Samus to be in proportion with so it could be scaled down like Olimar was scaled up.(or failing playable character, a surprise boss)

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*** Both it and ''Space Firebird'' were developed by Nintendo R&D 1 and between the two games the '''Space Demon''' might have enough moves to work with. True, he might be a little on the large side but unlike Ridley, it doesn't have a Samus to be in proportion with so it could be scaled down like Olimar was scaled up. The demon could call on fighters, and fragmentation bombs for special attacks and use a space Firebird for recovery. (or failing playable character, a surprise boss)
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* Now we know that Little Mac will be a playable character, so I think this is confirmed.
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[[WMG: Meta Knight will return for [=SSB$=], but nerfed]]
He's too iconic for both his home series and the SSBB tournament scene to leave out, especially since King Dedede has been confirmed at time of posting. Every Smash Bros sequel has had an insanely useful competitive character return in a nerfed form from the previous game: in ''Melee'' it was Pikachu, and in ''Brawl'' it was Captain Falcon. Meta Knight will not hover around the B/C tiers rather than SS.

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[[WMG: Meta Knight will return for [=SSB$=], [=SSB4=], but nerfed]]
He's too iconic for both his home series and the SSBB tournament scene to leave out, especially since King Dedede has been confirmed at time of posting. Every Smash Bros sequel has had an insanely useful competitive character return in a nerfed form from the previous game: in ''Melee'' it was Pikachu, and in ''Brawl'' it was Captain Falcon. Meta Knight will not now hover around the B/C tiers rather than SS.
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[[WMG: Meta Knight will return for [=SSB$=], but nerfed]]
He's too iconic for both his home series and the SSBB tournament scene to leave out, especially since King Dedede has been confirmed at time of posting. Every Smash Bros sequel has had an insanely useful competitive character return in a nerfed form from the previous game: in ''Melee'' it was Pikachu, and in ''Brawl'' it was Captain Falcon. Meta Knight will not hover around the B/C tiers rather than SS.
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** Wario: Lobo (in WarioWare Biker costume) Bizarro, (In WarioLand Overalls costume seeing that Wario is the opposite of Mario)

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** Wario: Lobo (in WarioWare Biker costume) costume)
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Bizarro, (In WarioLand Overalls costume seeing that Wario is the opposite of Mario)



** Toon Link: Batman (Terry as a younger person that takes up the mantle of the Hero generations later) or Bat-Mite (as a cartoony version of a serious character)

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** Toon Link: Batman (Terry as a younger person that takes up the mantle of the Hero generations later) or later)
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Bat-Mite (as a cartoony version of a serious character)



** Sonic: Spider-Man (as rival company's most iconic hero, popular by being a witty teen in contrast to Mario/Superman's clean cut adult) or Goku (as Comics vs. Manga counterpart, since Sonic even has WordOfGod DragonBall influences)

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** Sonic: Spider-Man (as rival company's most iconic hero, popular by being a witty teen in contrast to Mario/Superman's clean cut adult) or adult)
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Goku (as Comics vs. Manga counterpart, since Sonic even has WordOfGod DragonBall influences)



** Megaman: IronMan (if third party = Marvel Comics, with Sonic as Spider-Man) or Astroboy (if third party = Anime/Manga with Sonic as Goku)

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** Megaman: IronMan (if third party = Marvel Comics, with Sonic as Spider-Man) or Spider-Man)
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Astroboy (if third party = Anime/Manga with Sonic as Goku)
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*** Or, he could be Captain America.


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*** Either that or the Atom (Al Pratt)
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** Villager: Jimmy Olsen


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** Rosalina: Zatanna
** Little Mac: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_vs._Muhammad_Ali Muhammad Ali]]
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[[WMG: Little Mac will replace Meta Knight as the highest tier.]]

* Think about it, in the trailer if he performs enough punches to fill up his meter, he could KO anyone. Unless he doesn't manage to knock Bowser offscreen when the latter's at 0%, he could be overpowered.
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*** Punch Out is a long running series and considered a classic. '''Little Mac''' would probably be enough by himself but another reoccurring boxer like '''Mr. Sandman''' or '''Bald Bull''' might not hurt... '''Mike Tyson''' for nostalgia?

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*** Punch Out is a long running series and considered a classic. '''Little Mac''' would probably be enough by himself but another reoccurring boxer like '''Mr. Sandman''' or '''Bald Bull''' might not hurt... '''Mike Tyson''' for nostalgia?nostalgia? As of February 13, 2013, Little Mac is confirmed for Super Smash Bros. 4.
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[[WMG: [[VideoGame/{{Castlevania}} Simon Belmont]] ]]
Castlevania is popular and Simon was in the NES Castlevania game -- arguably [[FirstInstallmentWins the most iconic of the series]].

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[[WMG: [[VideoGame/{{Castlevania}} [[Franchise/{{Castlevania}} Simon Belmont]] ]]
Castlevania ''Castlevania'' is popular and Simon was in the NES Castlevania ''VideoGame/{{Castlevania|I}}'' game -- arguably [[FirstInstallmentWins the most iconic of the series]].



** A more specific guess: If Simon Belmont is a fighter, his reveal video will have him facing off against Link, Samus, Pit, and Takamaru. Why those four specifically? TheLegendOfZelda, {{Metroid}}, KidIcarus, Nazo No Murasamejou, and {{Castlevania}} were the first five games to be created exclusively for the Famicom Disk System.

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** A more specific guess: If Simon Belmont is a fighter, his reveal video will have him facing off against Link, Samus, Pit, and Takamaru. Why those four specifically? TheLegendOfZelda, ''TheLegendOfZelda, {{Metroid}}, KidIcarus, Nazo No Murasamejou, Murasamejou'', and {{Castlevania}} ''Franchise/{{Castlevania}}'' were the first five games to be created exclusively for the Famicom Disk System.



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[[WMG: VideoGame/{{Castlevania}}]]Franchise/{{Castlevania}}]]
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** It's actually a voice-actor in-joke. In Japanese, Snake is voiced by ÅŒtsuka Akio, who is the son of ÅŒtsuka Chikao, who provides the voice for Sonic's arch-nemesis, Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik.
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Urban Legend Of Zelda. There is nothing Geno-related in the game.


*** While he would have copyright issues around him, Geno was one of the most requested characters for Brawl, and judging by some Beta content, he almost made it in. He has a lot of interesting attacks, so that helps.

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*** While he would have copyright issues around him, Geno was one of the most requested characters for Brawl, and judging by some Beta content, he almost made it in.Brawl. He has a lot of interesting attacks, so that helps.

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[[WMG: [[KidIcarus Twinbellows]] will be a boss in [=SSB4=].]]


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*** Why not? He isn't forgotten, as shown as his stickers in the game, and with the Kat and Ana assist trophy, it was proof that WarioWare isn't forgotten. And who is the most liked Warioware character minus Wario? 9-volt. Nintendo, realizing he is the okatu of their franchise, will put him in to attract other gamers to the Warioware franchise, causing them to play 9-volt's games, and realizing how awesome old school games were by searching 9-volts micro-games, they will revive the old school genre, causing a heroic GambitRoulette for Nintendo, making them do sequels to old school games, and eventually, take over the gaming market even '''''MORE!'''''
**** What would be awesome is if all of his attacks were based on Nintendo products. He'd have the zapper, the Wii Nunchuck, and even...the Power Glove.
**** [[TheWizard I love the Power Glove...]] More seriously though, for a more detailed description on it, check out this [[http://marioking9834.deviantart.com/art/Newcomer-9-volt-211846851 DA pic]]. (NO, this doesn't mean he's confirmed yet!)



*** A possible movelist could be:
**** B: Mona rocks on her guitar, damaging anybody nearby.
**** </>+B: Mona throws a pizza box, her standard projectile.
**** ^+B: Mona activates a jetpack for a second, similar to Pit's flying but it doesn't last as long.
**** v+B: Mona does an instant slide kick, going at a mid-range distance.



*** Melee had Mewtwo as a playable character, the only movie featured Pokemon that was humanoid enough to be included. Brawl comes around, Lucario's in, he was the last humanoid Pokemon character to be featured in a movie at that point (Lugia, Entei, Latios and Latias, and Jirachi are all too far from humanoid and Deoxys was before Lucario). Zoroark is the current Pokemon in this role, it's humanoid enough to fit into the game. Unless, before hand, another one replaces it, I see it being a playable character in the next game, or at least a Poké Ball summon. If all three are playable, (Mewtwo, Lucario, and Zoroark) it would probably rank right up there on the FridgeBrilliance o-meter. Remember all of that speculation about a Dark/Psychic/Fighting starter trio? And, what with the "super effective" bonus knockback for Charizard, Ivysaur, and Squirtle already in play (to water, fire, and grass damage, respectively (and obviously)) it's not hard to think that they would form an interesting mechanic for team play/etc.



*** Alternatively, my guess is Tepig, Dewott, and Serperior.



*** As nonnotable as Corsola is, it could be a very quirky and effective StoneWall. Especially as a semi-clone of Jigglypuff, of all things. It could use Spikes to lay traps around the stage, Hypnosis as a quick, decent-ranged sleep-inducing burst, Rest to actually regain health rather than attack, and a bouncy, unpredictable Rollout as its specials. Its basic combo would be Bubble, and its Smash attacks would include Rock Blast (emitting rocks that roll around the ground), Spike Cannon (launching the spikes on its back as an anti-air move), and Mud Slap (which would stun foes in a similar fashion to Mewtwo's Disable). Its Final Smash would either be Surf (summoning a tidal wave functionally equivalent to the lava wave on Norfair) or [=AncientPower=] (surrounding itself with numerous orbiting rocks and then floating around the stage in a similar fashion to Pikachu's Volt Tackle, attempting to trap opponents inside to be bounced around pinball-style ForMassiveDamage).

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*** As nonnotable non-notable as Corsola is, it could be a very quirky and effective StoneWall. Especially as a semi-clone of Jigglypuff, of all things. It could use Spikes to lay traps around the stage, Hypnosis as a quick, decent-ranged sleep-inducing burst, Rest to actually regain health rather than attack, and a bouncy, unpredictable Rollout as its specials. Its basic combo would be Bubble, and its Smash attacks would include Rock Blast (emitting rocks that roll around the ground), Spike Cannon (launching the spikes on its back as an anti-air move), and Mud Slap (which would stun foes in a similar fashion to Mewtwo's Disable). Its Final Smash would either be Surf (summoning a tidal wave functionally equivalent to the lava wave on Norfair) or [=AncientPower=] (surrounding itself with numerous orbiting rocks and then floating around the stage in a similar fashion to Pikachu's Volt Tackle, attempting to trap opponents inside to be bounced around pinball-style ForMassiveDamage).



*** Lucario has been confirmed to return, but that still means that Mewtwo still has a chance. [[spoiler:And a rumor list says he may return]].

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*** Lucario has been confirmed to return, but that still means that Mewtwo still has a chance. [[spoiler:And a rumor list says he may return]].



** "Firce Deity Link"

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** "Firce "Fierce Deity Link"



*** Of the series' most recent villains (not including remakes), he is fairly popular and would fit the Smash Bros gameplay well (unlike, say, Ashera or Ashnard). His rivalry with Ike is also a plus. His moveset can incorporate Eclipse (probably similar to Marth's Dancing Blade), and his Up-Special could use his warp powder (similar to Zelda/Sheik). He would also likely have Counter, like the other ''Fire Emblem'' characters. His Final Smash could be some improved form of Eclipse, like how Ike has Great Aether. Other than basic team color changes, palette swaps could include his ''Path of Radiance'' or ''Radiant Dawn'' appearance (depending on which one is his default appearance) and [[spoiler:a palette based on Zelgius's Begnion armor]]. Admittedly, though, his last appearance in the series was a while ago...



[[WMG: The next Smash Bros. Game will have Zoroark as a playable character]]
Melee had Mewtwo as a playable character, the only movie featured Pokemon that was humanoid enough to be included. Brawl comes around, Lucario's in, he was the last humanoid Pokemon character to be featured in a movie at that point (Lugia, Entei, Latios and Latias, and Jirachi are all too far from humanoid and Deoxys was before Lucario). Zoroark is the current Pokemon in this role, it's humanoid enough to fit into the game. Unless, before hand, another one replaces it, I see it being a playable character in the next game, or at least a Poké Ball summon.
* However, it'd be best if all three were playable in some form.
** If this happens, it would probably rank right up there on the FridgeBrilliance o-meter. Remember all of that speculation about a Dark/Psychic/Fighting starter trio? And, what with the "super effective" bonus knockback for Charizard, Ivysaur, and Squirtle already in play (to water, fire, and grass damage, respectively (and obviously)) it's not hard to think that they would form an interesting mechanic for team play/etc.


[[WMG: 9-volt will be in Super Smash Bros Stifle (Or [=SSB4=])]]
* Why not? He isn't forgotten, as shown as his stickers in the game, and with the Kat and Ana assist trophy, it was proof that WarioWare isn't forgotten. And who is the most liked Warioware character minus Wario? 9-volt. Nintendo, realizing he is the okatu of their franchise, will put him in to attract other gamers to the Warioware franchise, causing them to play 9-volt's games, and realizing how awesome old school games were by searching 9-volts micro-games, they will revive the old school genre, causing a heroic GambitRoulette for Nintendo, making them do sequels to old school games, and eventually, take over the gaming market even '''''MORE!'''''
** What would be awesome is if all of his attacks were based on Nintendo products. He'd have the zapper, the Wii Nunchuck, and even...the Power Glove.
*** [[TheWizard I love the Power Glove...]] More seriously though, for a more detailed description on it, check out this [[http://marioking9834.deviantart.com/art/Newcomer-9-volt-211846851 DA pic]]. (NO, this doesn't mean he's confirmed yet!)

[[WMG: [[KidIcarus Magnus]] Will be in [=SSB4=].]]
I could see him being a Ike clone.



[[WMG: The Pokemon Trainer will be replaced with one of the player characters (probably the male) from Gen5 for marketing purposes. He or she will use that Gen's starters.]]
For the starters, my guess is Tepig, Dewott, and Serperior.
* Marketing purposes? You do realize with a 2-3 dev cycle starting in October this year, Gen 5 is on the way ''out'' when this is released?
** I didn't realize that. I still think they will probably replace him, with whatever male trainer is current at the time they program the characters in. If Gen6 is not out by that time then we might even get another example of MarthDebutedInSmashBros.



[[WMG:[[VideoGame/MoleMania Muddy Mole]].]]
ShigeruMiyamoto already begged Sakurai to put him into ''Brawl'', but he couldn't do it for the time being. Since HideoKojima did the same for [[Franchise/MetalGear Snake]] in ''Melee'', Muddy has a chance in the next game(s).

[[WMG:[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Ghirahim]] will be playable.]]
He could have the ability to grab people's swords and other blunt weapons.

[[WMG: Mona from WarioWare will be playable.]]
If 9-volt can be playable, Mona can too! In fact, I'll even add a movelist:
* B: Mona rocks on her guitar, damaging anybody nearby.
* </>+B: Mona throws a pizza box, her standard projectile.
* ^+B: Mona activates a jetpack for a second, similar to Pit's flying but it doesn't last as long.
* v+B: Mona does an instant slide kick, going at a mid-range distance.

[[WMG: Miis will be playable in [=SSB4=]!]]
You select a Mii, set its moveset with existing moves within the game, and there you go! IT WOULD BE FREAKIN AWESOME!



[[WMG: The [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Black Knight]] will be playable.]]
Of the series' most recent villains (not including remakes), he is fairly popular and would fit the Smash Bros gameplay well (unlike, say, Ashera or Ashnard). His rivalry with Ike is also a plus. His moveset can incorporate Eclipse (probably similar to Marth's Dancing Blade), and his Up-Special could use his warp powder (similar to Zelda/Sheik). He would also likely have Counter, like the other ''Fire Emblem'' characters. His Final Smash could be some improved form of Eclipse, like how Ike has Great Aether. Other than basic team color changes, palette swaps could include his ''Path of Radiance'' or ''Radiant Dawn'' appearance (depending on which one is his default appearance) and [[spoiler:a palette based on Zelgius's Begnion armor]]. Admittedly, though, his last appearance in the series was a while ago...


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[[WMG: Toon Link will only run the train in the Spirit Tracks level if he is NOT being played.]]
* The latest picture on the official Smash 4 website shows Alfonzo and toon link standing side by side at the front of the vehicle. Given that Toon Link had yet to be implemented when we saw the stage for the first time we can deduce that either The conductor Link was replaced entirely, or Alfonzo is an easter egg for players who play Toon Link on that stage.
** It doesn't count as "Wild Mass Guessing" if it was confirmed the moment the picture in question was put on the Miiverse...
** Yeah...
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* (Not the op) I was thinking something more like just adding characters that were once on a Nintendo system. This way they can still keep the Nintendo theme, but have more characters. For example: [[KingdomHearts Sora]], the VideoGame/ResidentEvil4 main character, [[VideoGame/{{Disgaea}} Laharl]], and PhoenixWright could all qualify. Hypothetically, of course.

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* (Not the op) I was thinking something more like just adding characters that were once on a Nintendo system. This way they can still keep the Nintendo theme, but have more characters. For example: [[KingdomHearts Sora]], the VideoGame/ResidentEvil4 main character, [[VideoGame/{{Disgaea}} [[Franchise/{{Disgaea}} Laharl]], and PhoenixWright could all qualify. Hypothetically, of course.
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** Not sure about Felicia, but Morrigan seems to have a knack for appearing in crossover games. In fact, Morrigan's probably appeared more times in crossover games (the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' series, ''VideoGame/TatsunokoVsCapcom'', ''CapcomVsSNK'', ''NamcoXCapcom'' and ''ProjectXZone'', ''CrossEdge'', and even ''SuperPuzzleFighterIITurbo'') than she has in her own series (though to be fair, there are only about three games in her series). Even though at the time of this edit, Mega Man has been confirmed for the fourth game, it wouldn't be surprising if Morrigan was added in as well just for the hell of it.

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** Not sure about Felicia, but Morrigan seems to have a knack for appearing in crossover games. In fact, Morrigan's probably appeared more times in crossover games (the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' series, ''VideoGame/TatsunokoVsCapcom'', ''CapcomVsSNK'', ''NamcoXCapcom'' ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNKMillenniumFight2000 Capcom vs. SNK]]'', ''VideoGame/NamcoXCapcom'' and ''ProjectXZone'', ''CrossEdge'', ''VideoGame/ProjectXZone'', ''VideoGame/CrossEdge'', and even ''SuperPuzzleFighterIITurbo'') ''VideoGame/SuperPuzzleFighterIITurbo'') than she has in her own series (though to be fair, there are only about three games in her series). Even though at the time of this edit, Mega Man has been confirmed for the fourth game, it wouldn't be surprising if Morrigan was added in as well just for the hell of it.

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***** Confirmed!
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*** By hovering across the ground and having a floaty jump like Metwo...wait

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*** By hovering across the ground and having a floaty jump like Metwo...waitMewtwo...wait
** '''Leon'''
*** He could have {{Hollywood Chameleon}} powers, turning invisible for certain moves (it could even be hand waved as sufficiently advanced technology, given the setting) and have a tongue whip attack and tether grapple. Oh, and demon sniper!
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** It doesn't count as "Wild Mass Guessing" if it was confirmed the moment the picture in question was put on the Miiverse...
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*** Lucario has been confirmed to return, but that still means that Mewtwo still has a chance. [[spoiler:And a rumor list says he may return]].

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